As to the point that third person offers a wider field of view, that's actually a downside for me. I enjoy the feeling that something might be creeping up behind me, compelling me to turn around periodically to check and being startled when something I didn't see starts wailing on me out of nowhere. I like to feel like I'm actually visiting Tamriel. I like immersion, and third person feels to video gamish for me. I've even used mods like 'third person animations in first person perspective' so that I wouldn't see my sword held robotically in front of my face all the time.

I usually play humans, as well. The only non-human race I've ever played was an Altmer, and that's because they were tall. I had been playing a Breton and was trying out the Sauron's Armor Chest mod. Having obtained the armor and traveled to the Imperial City I decided to check out my character in third person to see how the armor looked. While the armor looked good, it was almost comical seeing the diminutive little Sauron walking down the street looking up at most of the townspeople ... so I created a character who would look more menacing in the armor. :whistling:

I've really simply seen no reason to play a female character, though.

This is true. To be fair, anyone wearing practical armor is going to be as covered up as the males usually are, vanilla or modded, so something specifically for females really isn't going to deviate much from the base form. About the only changes really necessary would be to accommodate for the various differences in body dimensions, such as wider hips and narrower shoulders. But I freely admit there isn't much in the way of modded armor specifically designed for females that does that. Most of the ones that do are just slightly modified forms of the vanilla armors, such as one that female-izes Daedric armor, never anything created from scratch that looks nothing like what the game offers normally.

I'd make something that defies the trend if I had the skills, but I just don't.



Can't speak for every other male, but I have no illusions about that, that's for sure. And yes, I do use some of that scantily-designed armor/clothing, and yes I enjoy how it looks. Mine is a bit more practical than most of the others, though.

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Inspiring. I've never looked at the Oblivion mods, since I don't have the game.

1st Person exclusively.

And of the 8 characters I have lined up to play for Skyrim the genders go like this. 1:4 (female to male respectively)
I have a harder time committing to a roleplay as an female hence only playing as one about 25% of the time.

Its dirt cheap these days, and they sell it bundled with all of the DLC expansions. It would make a good game to play until November.

I picked it up a copy two months ago at Wal*Mart for under $30.

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Its funny.. I have all of the TES 3, 4, and FO3 DLC, but have never played any of it yet. I keep meaning to get a round to it (http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/originalvmpbl-1px-1.jpg).

These days I've been playing Witcher and Dune 2.

I'm not. I'm a guy, I like pretty girls wearing sixy clothes. Just like I like girls on the beach in bikinis.

What I was objecting to was calling it "porm" - finding something sixy or attractive isn't "porm". No explicit sixual activity. Just pretty.
(I mean, by those standards, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue, or that silly Victoria's Secret fall fashion show on CBS is porm. Which would be quite a surprise to the FCC. )

I'll play in third person as long as they improve it somewhat. I switch back and forth in Oblivion because first person can be more immersive when fighting sometimes and easier to use when picking things up, shooting a bow or casting magic. I still use 3rd person for melee combat at times and when walking around and talking, so as long as they make it easier to use doing other things, I'll spend most of my time in third person.

I play males exclusively because its just much easier to RP. I normally RP based on how I would act if I shared the same background, personality, and circumstances as the characters I play. I play many different character types and personalities, but I'm definitely most comfortable when playing a character that makes lawful good or neutral good decisions because that's generally how I would act or want to act. But all my characters have their own stories and reasons as to why their outlooks are the way they are so I make decisions I normally wouldn't for roleplaying purposes.

I must respectfully disagree. I play female characters for the cosmetic factor and I've always loved female heroes in books and movies. For example, my favorite character in David Eddings "The Belgariad" is Polgara and she is almost Puritan. I also love the Tomb Raider movies. But I have to admit that I love Angelina Jolie! :hubbahubba:

My playing female characters has nothing to do with six or porm.

I like playing as females because of it's fun of me being evil and killing people as a girl.

I think that 1st person is better, but I flick to 3rd person quite a lot to get a good view of my surroundings. And, despite being male irl, a lot of my characters in many games are female. Teehee. It's fun because, well, I won't get a chance to be female irl, so let's just go nuts and be female in a game. Why not? :celebration:

I play third person as much as possible, though in existing Bethesda games, I often need to switch to first in order to pick up small objects or hit buttons and the like. I don't have too much of a problem with third person combat (excepting archery), though I hope it will be improved in Skyrim.

I am a woman and I play female or male characters, depending on what kind of character I want to create. I'm an in-character role player, so I don't self-insert. My characters are never me. That's probably why I prefer 3rd person perspective.

I enjoy both the first and third person view, but I moslty use the third person.
I play as male characters and I'm male IRL. Not sure why, but I prefer to play as a male if I have the chance :shrug:

... that is because you didn't go back far enough to find mine
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The last one, comes in transparent and white glass, but don't have a white glass thumb.

The price isn't a problem, it's the amount of fun I wouldn't be having playing it.

With Morrowind, I knew absolutely NOTHING about what I was in for, and that's a huge part of what made it exciting. What kept me interested was just the sheer depth of everything. Granted, I quit for five years, but converting to PC and the resulting access to mods not only rekindled my love of the game, but heightened it exponentially. No other game ever made comes close.

I know way too much about Oblivion, too much for it to be fun for me. Sure, there's a plethora of mods that fix everything I could possibly hate about it, but just the fact that I need any of them is, well... let's just say Morrowind's flaws are more excusable to me.

This is why I really, really, need for Skyrim to be better than Morrowind. I have some idea of what I'm in for, and while my expectations are hardly low, they're definitely a lot more realistic than they were with Oblivion. I'm sure there will be at least one creative decision that makes me mad, but thus far, my main issues with the last game have already been addressed to my satisfaction in Skyrim.

Again would these same people be playing females if they were size 24 and not "aesthetically pleasing" then? So yes it's a sixual kick why males play female characters. Even if it's just for a second, it still is for the sixual pleasure they recieve.

I love playing Barbies in these games, and I love to see my creations as much as possible, so I play in 3rd person whenever I can. Usually, gameplay is much easier and more natural in 1st person, though, so I didn't vote on that.

I didn't vote on gender, either, because I always make multiple characters of varying genders.

I do role play, hard. In my case, this means that I always try to make my characters act like I think they "really would", according to what I have established about them. If I am playing a stupid barbarian, she "really would" hack with her sword first and ask questions later, even if I know that she might miss a cool plot point or opportunity by doing so. It's really fun to play RPGs, not to "win", but to explore the consequences of indulging a character's personality.

I won't deny, however, that all my characters, of whatever race, gender, religion, or skill set, are extensions of me to one degree or another, so my own personality often leaks into theirs.

Honestly I don't find it impossible to RP a woman just because I'm not actually a woman. It's certainly not harder than RPing a six-foot bipedal leopard who likes to kill 20 people a day with an axe. (I'm not one of those either btw.)

Because the third person in the game makes combat awkward. The camera position/movement makes melee combat difficult and it makes archery and magic impossible because you can't aim.

Like I said, I don't see how that's "porm" though..... you know, walking down the street, and seeing an attractive person go by, and thinking "hey, she/he's pretty/handsome!" Yes, that's acknowledging aesthetics.... but it's not "porm". You can look at someone and think they're attractive/pretty/whatever, without automatically picturing them naked or imagining have six with them.


Eh, whatever.


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As for the main topic.... it just struck me while doing responses to this post that I've never actually made a male character in Oblivion or Fallout 3.

Typical nerd lol. Playing as a girl just so you could stare at her -_-

As I pointed out earlier, but not quite in the same way: What kind of overweight woman would be out adventuring like we do in ES games? If she started out fat, she wouldn't be in a few months, I can tell you that. Especially the way I play: lots of swimming, jumping, and running. Everywhere. Might still be kind of ugly, especially if they're an Orc, but definitely in much better shape than any of the fat chicks I see walking around all the time. Hell, even if their main method of staying alive is spell-casting, rigorous activity will still take place.

And they can be a butter-face, I don't care.

It's not just about six. Sure, there's no shortage of male nerds who download mods of skimpy outfits for their female characters because they can't get laid in real life, and have to pretend with a virtual woman. It's a stereotype that exists, but doesn't apply to every guy who plays ES games, or video games period.

And?

I find it quite comical that both you and another person posted links to show that not all female armor mods are unrealistic and just want to show skin. Yet both of you gave links showing unrealistic sixified female armor.

Most female armor mods are not about covering(thus protecting) the body but uncovering it.

male in-game, male irl. it makes it much easier to ROLE-PLAY as myself you know???!
the only time i would go 3rd person was to look at my neat armor most RPGs are 3rd person and ES games allow you to manipulate objects and it's just awesome as 1st person i appreciate the 1st person mode a lot!

Where did you see the skimpy bikini armor in the links I provided?

.. and BTW, I also have a sort of Conan the Barbarian armor for males: leather boots, what amounts to a kilt, fur braces, and one leather pauldron.

I switch between 3rd and 1st person depending on the situation. Mostly for traveling I used 3rd person (1st person is boring floating screen in this case) and some fighting I use 3rd person, though 1st it's easier to target, and for walking around without a weapon drawn and talking to people I generally use 3rd person.

For the way the story is setup I usually play male because I just see the role more fit to a male.. Soldier and all.. not to be sixist or anything, I just can't envision a "good-looking" female with this extreme desire to save the world and combat evil..

I always play first person, and a good majority of my characters are males.