1st person vs 3rd person and male vs female

Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:17 am

With the talk about skimpy armor for females while I agree it's ridiculous how far some games take it, several of the example of male characters in screenshots thus far have also shown a fair bit more skin (or fur in the Khajiit's case) than would be practical with the armor they are wearing. I don't think this is a problem when done in moderation. Obviously when taken to an extreme or only focuses on one gender it stands out and looks ridiculous (in my opinion).

There's nothing wrong with mods though, since nothing forces you to use them. It is funny how many mods focus on female 'modifications' with only a couple male 'modification' mods to try and balance them out, but well people are funny creatures and it's harmless anyway. It's the retail game that would have me more worried if things got too skimpy armor wise, and though we've only seen male characters so far while they show skin/fur it isn't taken to a ridiculous level thus far in my opinion.
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Janette Segura
 
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:49 pm

I prefer 3rd person games but I played Oblvion and Morrowind in 1st person because of the poor animations and the fact that fighting in 3rd person was kinda hard. But, it seems that the animations have been improved and that "the 3rd person view will rival with other 3rd person games" so I guess it'll be my choice for skyrim. All my characters in rpgs are males
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:29 pm

Where did you see the skimpy bikini armor in the links I provided? :)


The glass armor edges into the "over exposed" category with the bare midriff/arms/legs.


But for the "armor must be realistic" crowd, even those ones you linked with the partially-exposed thighs are "too exposed". :tongue:
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:07 am

For me it depends, if there will be hot chicks to romance, I'll play as a male, if not, I'll play as a female. What can I say, I love women and dressing up my character is half the fun.

What can I say, I'm secure enough in my masculinity that I have no problems roleplaying a girl.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:38 am

I mostly play in 1st person, but enjoy walking around in 3rd person from time to time.
I play both male and female characters, the last few years mostly female though. I like being people totally different from me in RPG's so yeah. :wink:
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:16 pm

I play in 1st person exclusively, but like everyone else I sometimes check out my character in 3rd person. I don't like 3rd person at all, in fact for me it's a reason not to play a game if it has 3rd person view exclusively (last game I tried was Two Worlds 2 - I really wanted to like it, but the 3rd person was so annoying that I had to stop playing it). I hate if my character blocks the most important part of my field of view all the time, I can't see what's directly in front of me and it's an immersion breaker as well for me - makes the game I play feel like a Jump n' Run and not like a RPG if I constantly have to stare at the back of my little 'action figure' hopping around and swinging his sword.

I play male characters only (but I have made a female character or two for the fun of it). Role-playing is nice and all, but role-playing a woman is pretty hard if you ask me (if you are not a woman that is).


Interesting. I am just the opposite in perspective. If a game only offers 1st person, I am apt not to purchase it. I really hate being stuck in first person. I find it useful for certain things, and appreciate it, but I really do not like being stuck playing in first person.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:55 am

Again would these same people be playing females if they were size 24 and not "aesthetically pleasing" then? So yes it's a sixual kick why males play female characters. Even if it's just for a second, it still is for the sixual pleasure they recieve.


What does it matter? To each his or her own, for his or her own reasons.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:29 am

A word on armor:

I don't care about realistic armor. I was raised on Frazetta style fantasy art. Girls in bikinis and half naked guys in helmets is where it's at. More than any other Tamriel province, Skyrim seems like the right place to explore this style. I don't need my character to be buried in two foot thick steel plate for me to accept that he's wearing some protective gear. It's A ) a fantasy world and B ) a video game; I'm suspending my disbelief about a lot of things already. (With or without realistic armor, nobody is getting stepped on by a 7 ton dragon and walking away.)

Bring on the classic swords & sorcery styles. Bring on the bare skin in the frozen north. Bring on the topless sorceresses and the man-mountains clad in fur and a couple hubcaps.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:12 pm

My first character will be a female Breton mage. As a girl, it's fun to be able to play a female character. I wish more games gave that option! However, that won't stop me from possibly playing a male character later on.

Multiple playthroughs are a given with games like this.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:57 am

My first character will be a female Breton mage. As a girl, it's fun to be able to play a female character. I wish more games gave that option! However, that won't stop me from possibly playing a male character later on.


Sure seems like it's pretty much only RPGs and fighting games that include very many playable females, yes. Sure, you have games like Metroid, Bayonetta, Heavenly Sword, most of the Resident Evil games (or perhaps all of them, not sure), and a ton of others I'm forgetting/don't know about, but overall, male characters definitely dominate the landscape of most genres. Hell there's been three damn Fable games and not once has there been the option to play as a woman. Not that I think it would make any of them worth playing, but I digress on that. :P

I suppose we could chalk it up to the still very common vision of a hero (which serves as the basis for so many game ideas): a decently tall, well-built, usually good-looking dude with a past of either great nobility or deeds he's not proud of, a sword or gun in his hand, and the skill and inclination to use it. Granted, we've evolved in that to a certain extent, else we wouldn't have games starring little Asian girls who can jump and climb stuff like you wouldn't believe, space-faring women wearing sophisticated alien suits battling horrific monsters, and women who wield huge swords better than freakin' Dante.

But that progress isn't enough in my opinion. We need a lot more than RPGs, fighting games, and a few platformers/action-adventure types featuring playable female characters, and we need more that can be taken seriously. Even in the RPGs and fighting games, how many of those playable women are wearing something practical for combat? How many of them, personality and skill-wise, really aren't suited for the kinds of tasks ahead of them?

The same can said for male characters as well, to an extent, and it's not the worst thing either, but they tend to go to extremes when developing female characters in games don't they? A lot of them are either the every-day girl-next-door who happens to wander into a living nightmare filled with zombies and aliens, or a bigger bad-ass than some of the guys. Not very many happy mediums, at least not from what I've seen.

Multiple playthroughs are a given with games like this.


Especially if/when you're going into it completely blind, and hence mess up the process of creating the kind of character that will prosper at all:

"Oooh, I can learn to enchant my own items? That's sounds pretty sweet..."

*tries making an axe with damage health enchant for the 50th time*

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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:57 pm

If the third person mode is a lot better this time then I might use it more, getting tired of the over use of first person in games. I'll be playing as female - no desire to play as male, too many male leads in games as it is.
As for the last question, it should be pretty easy to figure out.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:26 am

My first will be Male,
and i will probably play in both a little bit to see how good the new 3d person view is, if i like it than probably more 3rd than 1st, but chances are ill still like 1st person better.
And im a male in real life.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:39 am

Hell there's been three damn Fable games and not once has there been the option to play as a woman.



...actually, you can play a female hero in 2 and 3. (Of course, I only remembered this because I recall all the complaints about what Fable 2's "your body changes according to your stats" system did to the female characters. :D
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:30 am

I am male and I will play a male character.
(Not that I have anything against female characters)

I mostly play in 1st person but when I want to look at my character I play in 3rd person :P
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:32 am

Because the third person in the game makes combat awkward. The camera position/movement makes melee combat difficult and it makes archery and magic impossible because you can't aim.


I beg to differ, I only play in the 3rd person, that is unless I am aiming an arrow or fireball, magic anyway, or investigating something which is what 1st person should be intended for. I spend allot of time creating an awesome looking character why would I then go running around in the 1st person. 3rd person for combat and movement and other wise looking very cool, 1st person for long range weapons, magic sppells and investigation, that’s what I say.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:57 am

...actually, you can play a female hero in 2 and 3. (Of course, I only remembered this because I recall all the complaints about what Fable 2's "your body changes according to your stats" system did to the female characters. :D


Use of Will makes their nipbles glow blue? :P

Obviously I never actually played the sequels, I got burned enough the first time, but honestly I've never heard anyone talk about being able to play a female in those games. The ads certainly never hint at it.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:21 pm

The six of my character rarely determines how I RP them. It wouldn't really make a difference one way or the other unless of course there was a faction that was anti female or anti male or w/e.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:38 am

Im a guy that likes to play male chars.When i play i like to put myself in my char's shoe's so ya playing a female char just would feel strange to me.Oh,and if i wanted to look at a female in 3rd person ill just take a gander at the wife unit :woot: lol.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:40 pm

Whichever. Whenever.

Whatever...
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:21 pm

when im slowly riding around on my horse i play in 3rd person to see how cool my guy looks, but if questing or fighting im always in 1st person
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:17 pm

I mostly play in 1st person, especially for battles. In towns and when traveling I usually use 3rd person though. So maybe it's a 50/50 for me.

And I usually play male characters even though I'm a female myself.
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Post » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:19 am

I'm just amused by the fact that at the time of this post, 307 poll respondents play in first person and 308 play males, while 97 play in third person and 96 play females.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:42 pm

I will be playing as a female char again this time. Mainly because its nice to play as a female hero who isnt just eye candy, used to sell more copies of a bad game. I dont usually go for the skimpy clothing, most of the time it just looks plain dumb, but there are a couple of exceptions of nice looking 'revealing' item mods.

My female in oblivion is a mage and currently wears an 'adventurer' style outfit, because most vanilla robes look like they are made from cardboard, and 99% of the modded ones are scraps of cloth barely covering anything.

I really dont see why there is the stereotype of it only being 15 year old boys who play females just to ogle them. Sure there must be a lot if them, what with all the rediculous looking F cup body mods, but is a bit unfair to group all males playing female chars as perverts.

You could also say all males pkaying dressup with their male chars are in the closet, but that wouldnt go down very well.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:00 pm

I am a blokey bloke who likes sport, BBQ's and beer, saying that I actually prefer to play a female charachter first off in most games, even in Mass Effect 2 I did the same before playing through again as a male. Dunno why but I prefer to look at the back of a female than a bulky guy!
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:09 pm

I'm just amused by the fact that at the time of this post, 307 poll respondents play in first person and 308 play males, while 97 play in third person and 96 play females.


And I responded 1st person / female.

And there were a number of posts in the thread that supported 3rd person & male.

So, no.... can't necessarily determine anything from those poll proportions.

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