YES.Hell,even Thief III Deadly shadows had that.

Seeing your feet in in a game like this does help with lining up a tricky jump in first person. As cool as it would be to see your shadow or the ripples in the water around your legs, there really isn't really a practical use for it besides the jump use that I described. Probably why many developers leave the feet or other portions of the body out of the view when looking down in first person.

I'd love to see this.
But they should allow us to toggle it on and off, as people always complain about something...

Well, yeah, that would. I would like to be able to see my character's feet and shadow in first person, perhaps even get in a melee kick now and then. Riding on a horse in Oblivion just really drives home the fact that your character is a disembodied, invisible, floating camera.

seriously...we really don't need EVERYTHING to be a toggle to please everyone! It's fine weather you see your feet or not. The people that won't like the game because of which ever way is decided will be an extreamly small group.

A VAMPIRE!

KILL HIM!

Hey, you know if women are really worried about the cleavage thing, how about the body being invisible anyway, so you just see your legs at the bottom of the screen sticking out? Would be a bit less realistic, but would solve your issue.

But whatever they do, if they were thinking about including this they probably tested it a bunch of different ways in game so they'd have a better idea of what is the most immersive.

Oh, and another reason they could include it. I doubt many people want to see footprints in the supposedly dynamic snow appearing from nothing.

Classic example of bad and good body awareness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBNyIATkSE4
Anything distracting here?
Arma2 again, which supports freelook: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_0fnl26Z5c
And naturally, Farcry 2 healing anims: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWjoadyb2Eg

Good times were had shooting yourself in the foot in halo 2 and that game was last gen.

True enough, also it could block the field of vision to judge yourt feet with a platform and try to land a hard jump to get an awesome item or get to a short cut. I still want feet to be visible

Thats the main reason I would like seeable bodies. I ALWAYS judge poorly with distance. (I have no depth perception)

I really want to be able to see my feet because that would be really cool Halo 3 did it and it was really nice to have, all it does is add a bit of immersion and it makes it look nice

It would be nice to see my body or feet when I look down.

Something else I would like to see is more better 1st person animations, scripted and non-scripted.

I play in 3rd person camra view so it doesnt really matter to me.

I'm all about immersion. I love playing in first person view for such reasons. I feel like its me playing.
but even in amazing games like amnesia where immersion was absolutely top notch, there were many many times where you needed to look
down and see what you were doing with you're feet and those appendages didn't show up for school that day.
It takes you right out of the game.

This feature is necessary. There is no try.

And I'm terribly sorry to be the one guy who has to drop the bomb about female gamers not wanting to look down at cleavage, but that it is utterly hypocritical.

If there is body control and briast size control, you can very easily dial it down to suit your needs. Or, heaven forbid, play a male avatar. And if you insist on playing a female with large briasts...um...learn to understand and accept that...women have briasts?! Ask yourself: why are you playing a busty female if you don't want to see that she is busty? Presumably, if you are playing a female main character in Skyrim you will do your fair share of fighting regardless of your archetypal focus, do you think Jeanne D'Arc, Queen Boudicca or Princess Pingyang ever worried about that kinda stuff? Also, this is Skyrim, a cold place, I doubt you'll be finding too many low-cut halter tops or sixy lingerie lying around. You will see cloth, or fur, or leather, or metal of some kind. It may ever so slightly conform to the female figure (although I would hope Bethesda has grown out of that by this iteration from an armor standpoint, and into it from a clothing standpoint) but regardless, I guarantee that bare female flesh will be rare in a combat scenario. And if you're enjoying a pint of mead in a local tavern, wearing a skimpy frock, then clearly you don't have your priorities straight...you are Dovakhiin, not some flaggon-swilling floosie! :foodndrink:

Be proud ladies, don't let your briasts get in the way of a necessary and immersive game feature.

For some reason I never thought of it that way, but you're right. If you want to play a busty character, expect to see a busty character when you're playing.

We will probably see the body, since we don't see the HUD i think that they cannot possibly neglect it even more by not showing the body either.

Please!!! Tell me what mod is that, for New Vegas!

I'd like to be able to see my feet, just to be sure of where I'm standing when I'm close to an edge, but I don't want the screen being blocked up with stray appendages.

Lol, as i′m always a male character i really didn′t expect this situation... but as i said, it could be a settable option... You could enable or disable the body in 1st person. Simple enough, and everybody is happy =D

in Oblivion there is a mod to enable the body viewable in 1st person view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtP4rkJBky4

So, if not natively, maybe we can find some mod like that in Skyrim.

I hope to see it. Beth might ask Arkane for help, or already have done so. It really helps against movement sickness, and improves the immersion factor. Since the latter is what they are going for with the less intrusive approach to menus, being a floating head and arms in first person would kill any positive effects this might have.

Also, briasts are not that intrusive. I would have to really bend my neck to gaze into my current shirt. And I'm not that small a girl... :whistling:

It can work for shooters, but it would have to be very carefully implemented for swordplay. Mount & Blade works well in third person, but it's confusing as hell in first because you can only see your weapon when you're swinging it. There's no body awareness unless you actually ARE looking down (you don't normally walk about with your arms stuck out in front in RL). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2iRIXOOLu4

1. I want an option of playing a busty female because I am one in reality, it's as simple as that. I found that if I don't "connect" with female characters that spot a "sporty girl" look.
2. I like seeing my character in 3rd person, and have no problem with her figure, actually I enjoy dressing up an such.
3. Jeanne D'Arc, Queen Boudicca or Princess Pingyang did not play video games, they lived in the situation. Having bests and seeing them when I look down does not bother me in a slightest in real live - I love my body and have no problem with it, what I have a problem with is bunch of polygons obscuring my view.



That armr 2 is another example why I would not want it - every time you look down more than half of your screen is obscured by your "body", it seams it's bad enough even without the briasts in the way. If I want my veiew of the world to include my character I'll just switch to 3rd person.
Farcry 2 healing anims are a riot I mean how immersive it is to dig a huge piece of metal out of your stomach , or popping you fut right back and go running like nothing has happened? At last with non visible magical healing I can imagine some kind of regeneration process, my character actually being in pain and magic lifting it and so on, I certainly would stop treating the game seriously if I so a "healing" like that

Haha, well fortunately TES never got hooked on the trend that has been undermining RPGs for the last years where female charcters, for some reason, seem to think less armor = better. So most armors won't even display cleavage, if they did you can always put a shirt under. I WANT FULL BODY FIRST PERSON! Look at Mirror's Edge, or Dark Messiah! It's a lot more immersive! I want to be able to see my shoulders, torso, legs and feet. This is a scenario I want implemented:

You're running up into the mountains, and this giant comes charging at you. You feel the ground vibrate, stones falling down due to pressure, and his hand grabs you, and throws you away. You're upside down in the air, with no control of your body. Your arms and feet are doing a "waving" motion like in real life. You can only see the sky above and your body. You land on your back (as you land, the screen vibrates) and if you look down, you can see your body and legs lying in the grass. Your character then automatically rises up, and you can see your arms and legs bending, trying to get up.

It was just boring in Oblivion when all combat was just run up to enemy, block, hack, block, slash. You should be able to get thrown by giants, headbutted by minotaurs or pushed by humanoids (so you fly away onto the ground) and so on. You should of course also be able to grab them with telekinesis and so on. MUCH MORE DYNAMIC. It might be hard to make, but there could be a few different "rise up" animations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX3RYqFufUQ&feature=related This polar bear is really well animated. If this could be implemented into Skyrim... wow.