M 200 Sniper Rifle

Post » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:00 pm

How about some one making a M200 Sniper Rifle? (Also called Intervention)
here are some pics:
http://www.freewebs.com/cfcairsoftteam/m200.jpg
http://www.spa-defense.com/images/equipement_pictures/vendor_pictures/cheytac/m200-c/M200Carbine%20copy.png

As I?m not able to do any modeling/textureing I would propably (when help is needed) do the gecking...

What do you guys think? (The Rifle is considered to be the best sniper rifle in the world!)
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Post » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:38 pm

There is no such thing as a "Best", as each weapon is made to preform a specific role. Just as there is no such thing as a sniper rifle, because a person is a sniper, and any rifle they have in their hand is a "sniper rifle", just like there is no Air Force 1, whatever plane the president of the united states is on is Air Force 1.


That being said, it is indeed a cool rifle. Pity its no good for lefty.
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Post » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:14 am

Ditto what Echonite said.
The rifle is nothing more than a tool. It's the person using the tool that determines the quality of the performance of that tool.
Kinda like hammers... they say Estwing hammers are the best made. But if you were to give my brother a $2 no name hammer, and give me a $80 top-of-the-line Estwing hammer, my brother could still drive three nails to my one.

Anyhoo, that is a pretty rifle for sure. You might have some luck if you ask around on the http://www.fookunity.com/forum/index.php. Some of the best weapon modelers there are hang out there....
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Post » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:45 am

Of course there are special sniper rifles man! Did you ever see a sniper with an M4 shotgun? Or a SPAS? Or a G36? Or a STEYR AUG? (The list goes on.... ;) )
And as the M200 is a rifle, specialy made fpr snipers/sharpshooters it is a sniper rifle indeed.
Of course it is a tool and in the end the shooter makes the "quality", not the weapon, but still this rifle is better then some older high-precision-rifle (to take it to that term). It is more accurate and has a higher range and on and on.
You are definitely right in saying that its not the best rifle for every situation, but overall it is considered to be one of the best sniper rifles so far. Thats a fact, mate :)

I will try the FookForum, thanks for that :)
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Post » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:32 pm

There is no such thing as a "Best", as each weapon is made to preform a specific role. Just as there is no such thing as a sniper rifle, because a person is a sniper, and any rifle they have in their hand is a "sniper rifle", just like there is no Air Force 1, whatever plane the president of the united states is on is Air Force 1.


"Whatever rifle is in the hands of a sniper" does not equal "a sniper rifle". It equals "a sniper's rifle", and/or "a rifle being used by a sniper for sniping."

"A rifle being used by a sniper for sniping" is not the same thing as "a rifle specifically designed and intended for the purpose of, sniping."


As for being "the best"... I don't know about this rifle in particular, but just because different weapons are made to perform different roles - and each tends to have its own pros and cons, doesn't mean that there cannot be "considered to be the best" when talking about a specific role. Don't ignore the word "considered" there - it doesn't mean that the weapon is, without argument THE best... it simply means that based on a specific set of role-related criteria, it outperforms others in the ways that really matter.


Both my father and (one of) my brother have sniper training (one USAF, the other SWAT). Neither of them would consider my nephew's BB gun to be a sniper rifle, just because of their training and qualification - or even any hopeful or intended use.
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Post » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:34 am

Getting a little off-topic, aren't we? He's just showing his love for the rifle. Besides, I've just modeled the Best sniper rifle, so nyah!

I'd offer my hand at the model, but I'm full up right now.
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Post » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:47 am

I have a partially done Cheytac model, but I quit working on it since I don't know how to animate the bolt function yet in Nifskope. I animated bows for Ob, but this just feels beyond me. If I can't figure it out, I could give it to someone that has the expertise.

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http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/Khugan/Misc/m200wip.jpg No where near finished! Be gentle. :embarrass:
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Post » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:50 pm

To step off topic again it is the best sniper rifle in terms of range they say do to its custom round. it fires a custom made .408 round,because of this you will more then likely never see it used in the military. If you run out of bullets in the field with a cheytec, your screwed none of your fellow soldiers will have them nor will the dead enemies 9 out of 10 times. So we use the barrett cause everyone loves a .50cal XD! Anyway yes it is a "Sniper Rifle". The rifle is designed for sniping. You won't see an infantryman running into the field with it. Also as I said earlier it is best in only certain perspectives. Just like the AWM is the best for winter cause it is made for it. That bolt will more then likely never freeze on you. Take the Cheytec into 10 degree whether and see if you can still move that bolt XD.

Ok very off topic, anyway. How can I find this FOOK thing cause I have a very small modification I would like made to a gun I already have. Simply just giving it an extended and threaded barrel with the texture fitted to do it. I have no idea how to work Blender so I need someone to do it for me=/ (again off topic)

OK now if this mod is made I want it! Not enough nice bolt action snipers made for this game (all I found was the AWM). (yey on topic! XD)
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Post » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:45 am

Just my $0.02 the M200 can fire both the .408 and .375 Chey Tac round. As I understand it, the .408 is milspec and the .375 is civilian. I also doubt the US military would contract this weapon being built and not produce ammunition to be readily available in the field. I could've sworn there was an episode of Weaponology or Future Weapons on the Military Channel about this weapon a while back. I must admit, it is quite an impressive weapon. It'd be cool to have a mod for FO3 with the ability to make either the .408 or .375 round in a press in The Pitt.
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Post » Fri Mar 12, 2010 12:07 pm

Future Weapons had a thing on this. Yes it fires both, but originally and mainly the .408 but thats not the point. Both rounds are exclusive to that gun. So yes they could mass produce it but the ammo is still scarce. Look at the barrett, it fires the 12.7x99mm round (the 50cal). Now the Browning M2 fires the same round, and also enemy weapons will more then likely use it as well. So instead of the sniper having to go all the way back to base to pick up more ammo, he can go to his squad and ask the soldier manning the Browning for a few rounds, and maybe if they just eliminated an enemy force he can pick some up off them. It is just easier to find bullets and bullets go quick. Also a semi tends to be more useful then a bolt now. In the end the CheyTac is just less productive then the Barrett. Oh and in the case of the 7.62x51 for the M14 that is even more common. Not as common, but more common.
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Post » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:17 pm

Future Weapons had a thing on this. Yes it fires both, but originally and mainly the .408 but thats not the point. Both rounds are exclusive to that gun. So yes they could mass produce it but the ammo is still scarce. Look at the barrett, it fires the 12.7x99mm round (the 50cal). Now the Browning M2 fires the same round, and also enemy weapons will more then likely use it as well. So instead of the sniper having to go all the way back to base to pick up more ammo, he can go to his squad and ask the soldier manning the Browning for a few rounds, and maybe if they just eliminated an enemy force he can pick some up off them. It is just easier to find bullets and bullets go quick. Also a semi tends to be more useful then a bolt now. In the end the CheyTac is just less productive then the Barrett. Oh and in the case of the 7.62x51 for the M14 that is even more common. Not as common, but more common.


Sniper crews using weapons like that are most likely a two man unit with only authorization to end one target. Ammo supply doesn't dry up. If the [censored] hits the fan the spotter most likely has an accurised semi-automatic.
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Post » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:53 pm

Yes for one man target scenario's then more then likely you will be designated a sniper. America's army has adopted the Knight M110 SASS (semi-auto sniper system). With this weapon they tend to have both the spotter and the sniper have it. It is a semi and the spotter can use the scope as his target locator and such. I have seen some where the spotter will have the M110 and then the sniper will have a more accurate longer range weapon such as the AWSM or the Barrett. Generally though for america's soldiers its a spotter with a M4 ACOG and a sniper with a Barrett. Another thing, the Barrett and the AWSM tend to be the more anti material then anti personel. With that large of a round it is effective against vehicles and such. You can use such against foot soldiers, and they do often, but when you do its a bit excessive. Take a .50cal and put it in someones head and a good 40% or more of the head is gone.


In the Iraq war americans generally will use the 7.62x51 in the Knight M110 and most M14 models. Reasoning is that most battles don't reach past 800 yards. And that is the effective range of the 7.62. So you don't need the .338 luppa which has an effective range of 1500 yards. The .50 cal I do not recall the effective range but it did make the longest range sniper kill at 2430 meters which is a little over 1.5 miles. Canadian guy sniper named Rob Furlong was a rather fun read for those who are sniper fans ^_^. That shot was done with the McMillan Tac-50. Don't know much about that one...
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