With the Empire ending what will it mean for the regions? However minor it is I'm wondering would the ban on Skooma/Moon Sugar be lifted? And I don't know of any other things that have been under direct control of the Empire but I'm sure it would be the cause for some differences. Also the fact its set 200 years after Oblivion, should we be expecting any technological advancements? Anyway it probably won't be a reason for any change in the game, it just popped into my head today so I thought I'd throw it out there. Note: I haven't gotten round to reading The Infernal City so sorry if I've missed out information.

I hate the empire! They all a bunch of stiffs, who outlaw fun things like skooma and argonian slaving

My Guess is that there will be some changes. The imperial leagion will be gone replaced by some form of provincial force and there will likely be more fighting for power amoung the Nobels.
Stuff like drugs could be more prevelent although for game rating sake I do not know how far Bethesda will take this.

Yeah I was thinking that outside cities skooma could be far more common, I like the idea of people fighting for power though.

If you haven't read "The Infernal City", you might not know that Vvardenfell was nuked when the moon finally fell on Vivec City (because not only did the city become a scalding bay still uninhabitable forty years later, but Red Mountain cooked off). Surviving Dunmer scattered to other provinces, including the island of Solstheim. The dev MK has said the Nords on Solstheim helped the refugees rather than fighting them. In "Skyrim", maybe we'll hear about Dunmer refugees.

Without the Empire, the former provinces may be at each others' throats. The Pax Romana represented by the Empire may have given way to ethnic cleansing and the loss of a common language, the loss of free trade, a rise in banditry, and much else. The novel "The Infernal City" mentions that a Titus Mede rose from warlord to Emperor and tried to stitch together the Empire, but at the time of the novel some forty years after the Oblivion Crisis, the Empire seems to consist of only several provinces. The sequel might say more, and is due to be released in late September 2011.

Apparantly there are cities that remain loyal to the empire without an emperor. So the imperial legion could still be there. And they would have a hard time keeping the Nordic Clans (a.k.a. vikings) at bay now that they arent the authority anymore. This could be an interesting guild conflict where you could join the sides of legion or that of a nord-clan (vikings!).

It seems likely. At one point in the novel "The Infernal City", Skyrim is mentioned to an Imperial agent as if it's a dangerous and unpredictable place. 160 years later than that, maybe Skyrim is even more independent.

Thanks for explaining it, I've got the book just never had enough time to get to it :/

Well if you look at history of West Roman Empire, it fell in 476 AD, while the east flourished well into 1400s.... So I'm wondering what effect this will have on your character if you choose to be an Imperial. The Empire that we knew it to be may be more mercenary driven 200 years after Oblivion.

I hope the Empire is still at least partially intact. The Empire rules!

I just want to join a nordic clan and crush to the remainings of the empire.

Nords OWN!1 :rock:

I sort of hope every things in disarray and nowhere is actually under significant control.

I hope that the Empire has been pushed back to Cyrodiil and maintains only a shred of influence in Skyrim. That way I can align myself with The Empire if I choose to through a faction hopefully. However it also means that there will be a new system of government which will be refreshing.

No Empire? Well this will be interesting........... In a chaotic-civil war- no not much law enforcement- sort of way





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Thought you guys might find this interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/LocationByzantineEmpire_550.png[/img] This image is the reconquest of the East Romans circa 550AD at its greatest extent.

I'm just hoping that the Empire plays a more low-key role in Skyrim, kind of like the way they were in Daggerfall. They may have some base of operations somewhere or agents with strong ties to some local nobles, but I could do without all of the Imperial Legion/BY THE NINE DIVINES/LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE spam, thank you very much.

I have already read where the capital city of Skyrim was already heavily influenced by the Dunmer (due to the proximity to Morrowind) so I would hope this is demonstrated in the game. Between that and the amount of refuges they could have taken in there might could be a heavy population of Dunmer on the eastern portion of Skyrim. I have already seen rumors of Dwemer ruins towards that side of the map as well. The more Morrowind (the game) style influence the better IMO, I miss the odd alien-eque qualities of that region.

The one thing I was disappointed with Cyrodiil was that it didn't have enough of the borderland's influence, as far as culture went anyways. The top was just snowy and the bottom right (near Black Marsh) was just swampy for example...meh at that!

From what I remember from preview there are 2 main factions fighting in civil war in skyrim: 1 is pro-empire, can't recall second faction but I think they are traditionalists or something, also remember in trailer there were people fighting in imperial armors, so I think it's quite probable that empire still hold or at least have influence in parts of skyrim.

According to the Infernal City (Which I may have to now give a re-read since this is set in that timeframe) The Medes (Correct me if I'm wrong?) had established several provinces for the empire through conquest. So, I think we may be put in the setting of the Mede's army attempting to conquer Skyrim?

I want some underground Skooma trades and wars! GTA Skyrim: The Skooma Chronicles.

I would love it if they made something of this. A sort of "Dark Age" atmosphere, warring tribes and factions in a constant struggle for power, if anything a decline in technology, and a few indications of the Empire's presence in the past (ruins or reoccupied buildings etc).

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Also the mages guild is defunct and two seperate organisations have taken its place.
The Synod and the College of Whispers.

From what I got out of Infernal City, it sounded liked Titus Mede's empire only composed of Cyrodiil only, given that the Empire is still trying to drive out bandits that raze towns and villages and only incorporated other past Cryodiilic cities such as Leyawiin have only been conquered fairly recently and are still is a restless state. Also, given that Titus was still trying to set up essentially propaganda justifying the rule of the Medes, I don't think Titus has got to conquering other provinces in The Infernal City. However, Skyrim takes place 160 years after The Infernal CIty, so it is very possible that the Empire has reestablished itself by then (whether it composes most of Tamriel or not). The Game Informer also mentions that Skyrim is in a civil war between those who want to secede from the Empire and those who are pro-Empire, possibly meaning at this point Skyrim has been reincorporated into the Empire by the time the 160 years between Skyrim and Infernal City has passed?

Anyways, I doubt authority will be as strong as it was in Oblivion or even Morrowind. Even if the Empire does control Skyrim at this point, they probably don't have that strong of influence. As stated previously, the fall of Rome anology probably applies heavily to the world of the Fourth Era.

At the time of the novel, the Empire basically consists of Cyrodiil (and even that is because Mede went to war to reunite the province). As far as I'm aware, the rest of the provinces are independent, although how long some of them will remain so is questionable. Unless the Empire managed to re-conquer Skyrim in the intervening 160 years (which would be boring) the civil war in Skyrim is between a faction that wants to rejoin the Empire, and one that wants to remain independent.