Well from what I saw in the oblivion game I can see them getting invaded and taken over very easily. From what I could tell they had no army, except for small militas in the towns and their entire land was filled with ruined nonfunctional forts. I saw no standing force really to stand against any real enemy.

Even so, you think they might've recalled some of the legions to beef up their defences of their own borders. I mean, I doubt the whole legion rebelled with the rest of the Empire.

yeah, but you should check out the Infernal city, an elder scrolls novel

I don't think Cyrodiil would of lost Skingrad or Anvil. Too important. Neither can I see them losing Leyawiin, or Leyawiin being won by either Elsweyr or Black Marsh. Maybe Cyrodiil is cut off between Pell's Gate and Waters Edge?
Otherwise, your map seems about right. Vvardenfell won't be owned, no one would want that.

Haha I like how you made Vvardenfell just none existent on that map.

Currently just 50 years after oblivion, red mountain blows up, so Im actually expecting a new geography for Vvardenfell, thats what a valcano does, shapes land.
200 years= some vegatation!

The empire does not exist as it did 200 yrs ago if you read the book you would know that the "empire" was in the hands of a bandit king less the 30 yrs after the oblivion crisis and is in fact not an empire at all anymore they pulled all the troops out of the provinces to defend the said "empire" but it seems to have fallen anyway so we wont know to what extent till we see a new map.

Yeah that is possible the oblivion crisis left them highly defenseless. Let alone they only have the council even to take charge and its not like the other providence didn't think about invading because that is a perfect time to invade when the enemy is most vulnerable they probably did and ran into each other and fought for a time before they all retreated to there own lands.

Leyawiin and Bravil became independent, fought each other for awhile, then became part of the Empire again by the time of Infernal City.

I wonder if the Telvanni are still around, since they had an island separate from Morrowind and Vvardenfell.

I think so, and I think it says something about them in the book, I don't remember...

N'Wah!

I'll bet the Dunmer wished they had Dagoth Ur with them now.

The book says the Telvanni were a very important force in helping to defend Morrowind against the Black Marsh invasion forces.

Win. Sigged

As is Kvatch.

Well it's an interesting thought. If the borders have been expanded I would guess a bit further down in Cyrodiil. Possibly also a bit to the east.
And a bit to the west. Skyrim fought Hammerfell and High Rock before and won. If the defeated them before, they maybe have decided to widen their borders?

In any case, I'd actually just prefer Skyrim to be in Skyrim as we know it. Make the "scale" of Skyrim bigger though

http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h451/Emprease/200ytammapII.jpg
okay there you go guys, a second version, Morrowind now appears to be scattered through islands, and Telvanni have there little island too

svcks when your two fav races are at war, and you know beth will make the one I like more lose because their a "beast" race...

Slaves :<

In the book i think leyawin still belongs to cyrodill

I agree with the notion that Skyrim could have possibly expanded to the west deeper into Hammerfell and High Rock, as they did it in the past during the Imperial Simulacrum. I also find it possible that the Nords control Solstheim completely, despite the Dunmeri diaspora in it as Oblivion rumors seemed to hint at Skyrim wanting control of the island. I personally don't see the Black Marsh pushing that deeply west into Cyrodiil.While things could of changed since Infernal City (Skyrim is ahead of Infernal City 160 years timeline wise), but the Black Marsh and Cyrodiil seemed to leave eachother alone, though the Black Marsh might have captured the eastern edges of Cyrodiil, especially the marsh areas in that region that resemble the Black Marsh.I love this thread idea as I love geography and maps, and I am very curious as how the borders changed. I really hope they are different as I think it would give the sense that this game really is far away from the other Elder Scrolls timeline wise.

Has everyone forgotten Orsinium? I'm pretty sure that the orcs would want an actual province for once, and being burly and such would manage it pretty easily given the circumstances.

You need to take natural barriers into account first, as well as motive. Just because certain cultures have attacked each other in the past doesn't mean their end goal was to control or invade with the purpose of ruling.

You have Skyrim having control over portions of Morrowind east of the Velothi mountains. That seems unreasonable if you consider what I mentioned. The Velothi mountains, act as a natural barrier, thus making it difficult, and undesirable to invade/control lands on the other side of them. The end goal of adding any territory is to have it be a productive part of what you already have. Also, with Morrowind being destroyed and in shambles, there is really no motive to control invade them(for the Nords anyways). All the economic value of those lands is now completely ruined. The only people that have motive would be the Argonians, and that is primarily for revenge, but they also have easier access to Morrowind than the Nords would.

200 years from now though... anything is possible, but if we also take into account game features, I think its safe to say we will NOT see much of the other provinces being controlled by the Nords. This is because, they aren't going to spend the money/time to develop content for lets say, 1-3 Dunmer villiages or something. It has to be something that is either significant to the story or used through the world.

That said, Bethesda did make seperate tilesets for Raven Rock and Rivet City, so there is a chance of something like this, also I'm pretty sure the Nords enjoyed fighting with Morrowind - they were the reason that the Dunmer and the Dwemer joined up in the 1st era - so I wouldn't discount them invading again. :tongue:

I except that the borders will have changed but we will have to see what the 2nd book brings for the province of Morrowind.
My guess is that a new map will be included in the cover of the Book.

Hmm the empire could have fallen almost completely, perhaps Cyrodil is all but gone?

Heh, we might as well remake the map with that dinky little island as the entire province of Cyrodiil.

Well that fits into something significant and in-line with the theme of the game. I doubt we'll see Dunmer cities/towns/whatever as significant parts of the game, because that takes away from the "Skyrim" theme, and so because of that I also doubt they would make new models for them.

For an expansion though, it makes more sense, if the main focus is "whats going on over there." I still wouldn't get my hopes up though, because I think the last thing they'll do is revisit Morrowind. That wont happen for a very long time I think.