Of course its relatively safe to just bash any believers, since there can't really be a repercussion if the apocalypse actually happens.

I don't believe or deny it. I watched a video in science class and it showed all the debris in space that misses us. I wouldn't be surprised if the world ended on any day. Would be cool if it did, we should schedule some Large Hadron Collider action for that day, and http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2005-02/miniature-star-earth.

Not a believer. I suspect that the world will probably end rather soon. But not THAT soon. And not because of a stupid prophecy.

The world will come to an end in 2012 right when I start to name my character in Elder Scrolls V.

I've played Risk approximately once in my lifetime. Fun game.

I've played it twice. First time I did decently. Second time one entire nation was just a giant plague land. I made it a point to rule over that land.

Which theory?

If it's just that the world will end, http://hrblogs.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451d73669e20133f1c38e33970b-800wi

Actually, I believe the particular calendar in question dates back to the 1400s, and the Mayans were hardly primitives despite their lack of civilized things like gunpowder and subprime mortgage lending, but, you know, whatever.......

I fully state right away that my knowledge on Earth's rotation is a little low, but the big Indian Ocean in 2004 messed up the rotation by 3 microseconds. Which is really small.
In order to have any kind of extremes in temperatures, in any actual noticeable effects, the Earth's rotation would have to be adjusted by more than 10 minutes.
The amount of force required to adjust the rotation of the Earth that much, would be around 700 million times that of the Indian Ocean earthquake.

Or basically a magnitude 20 Earthquake. Which can't exist. Or basically, enough energy to turn the Earth into a nice asteroid belt.
It's less than the energy output of a supernova...but still.

Also, the magnetic field of the Earth weakens and strengths at a set period of time, and while we're overdue for magnetic pole shift, they're not the end of the world, even if our compasses will suddenly point south...

Also, no need to worry about 2012. Worry about 2020, when I become president! oo:

The axis that the Earth rotates on is not stable. We wobble through space, really. What azaban is saying is that that axis is shifting, which it has done numerous times before, changing the angle at which light strikes any given point on the Earth, which affects weather patterns like seasons.

Oh...DOH!

No wonder I got confused.
Let's just pretend I never posted that. In fact, can everyone after this just ignore it...please.

And uh, if the axis shifts, we get crazy extreme weather? Okay, I always thought it was the rotational speed that affected global temperatures on an extreme scale. Not the tilt thingy.

I mean, the Earth's rotation stops, and one side of the Earth gets hot enough to melt gold, and the other gets a bit warmer than the point at which Oxygen freezes.

They are't they went to space in their little spaceships before we go :nuke: lol

I always figured the last guy deemed calender maker passed away prior to sharing his knowledge of calender making and thus the calender stopped when he was no longer able to make it due to his death. :shrug:

I see nothing hocus pocus about it.

Obviously my aim in that post was accuracy.

I wonder what our next date of doom will be after 2012...

I think the scientists said that the reason the Mayan calendar ends just then is because it's the completion of a complete solar cycle. Something that takes a VERY long time to happen

Yeah, everyone knows the world ends when you ride your polar bear cavalry down into the southern lands to reap the whole of humanity as flesh-crop for your horde.

I don't believe because of anything that the Mayans chizzled in rock a zillions years ago.

It's the group of people that are giving up their lives as of 01 01 2012 that have me slightly worried. Not that society will crumble into ashes.. but large groups of peole who've quit their jobs, cashed in their T-bills and spent it, who are then added to the ranks of the unemployed and homeless -and there were estimates that 15 to 20% of the dutch population was in this corner :cold:
No offense to the believers, but don't, DON"T give up your day job because of it..

If anything, anything happens in the next few years that could possibly, possibly be acounted to a form of 'awakening' it's that humanity doesn't take the propaganda from top down powers-that-be anymore, that advertising agencies and medias like television will have a harder time selling their point of view and/or product.

when people wise up to the BS and start making up their own minds..

but only because we're assimilating information at an astounding rate compared to even ten years ago. It's only a matter of time before the lowest common denominator in society wakes up to it as well.

/2cts

I hope that 15 to 20% of the dutch population works at Mcdonalds.

So, DarthRavanger, you're saying Summer is going to dare I say it, Take over the world? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8u7px_GzWQ

I've been waiting a long time to do that.
Or, maybe, Summer is working for Khorne? "More Blood for the Blood God!"

I heard some new stuff regarding this recently, apparently there is an unknown Brown Dwarf class planet that will be passing Earth in 2012 called "Nibiru" or something As some of you may know a Brown Dwarf is a failed star, not something you want to be in the vicinity of.

As for "do i still believe"? I didn't believe it in the first place :shrug:

This. The whole 2012 thing is nothing, but people who actually believe in it might harm themselves over it. Like that girl who killed herself because she feared the Large Hadron Collider would instantly destroy the world once it was activated, because the media exaggerated the whole thing. It's a damn shame.

Doesn't exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HghEBxHvgg

I love how people think the Mayans know when the world will end, or at the very least change in a massive way yet they couldn't predict the end of their own civilisation.

Also, uh, Brown Dwarfs are a tiny bit larger than Jupiter. They'd have to get close to the Earth to cause big problems. Despite having at least 13 times the mass of Jupiter. Oddly, the largest planet we found mass wise was a big old 23 Jupiter mass, 1.001 Jupiter Diameter planet. It was literally denser than lead.

Well, that and oh, wow, you couldn't miss a Brown Dwarf unless you're blind. That's the big thing about Nibru for what I hear, it's too big to be hard to find.

An earth sized planet well, we'd still find it.

THat's a bunch of crap. Old crap. Read the wikipedia article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision

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