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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:49 am

The swords they're talking about are Shehai ("the way of the spirit sword"), swords of energy (pure Will) produced from the hands of the Redguard Ansei (swordsaints). Think of Jedi lightsabers, but more powerful.

http://www.imperial-library.info/dfbooks/b004_redguard.shtml

And? You still can't "cut" an atom with your so-called "spirit sword". Atoms have to smash into each other to break apart, like in a particle accelerator.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:42 pm

The Yokudans are badasses. They can cut whatever they set their minds to. Why is it so impossible, in this world of fantasy, to imagine a technique that could cut the atomos? Especially when their techniques pretty much transcend all the physical tom-foolery?
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:02 pm

And? You still can't "cut" an atom with your so-called "spirit sword". Atoms have to smash into each other to break apart, like in a particle accelerator.


Well, you can't have several different outcomes of one event happening simultaniously and yet...
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:08 pm

And? You still can't "cut" an atom with your so-called "spirit sword". Atoms have to smash into each other to break apart, like in a particle accelerator.


If you're going to go there, you might aswell just go on to say the entire concept of Magic flawed because it makes no sense in terms of Physics. But if you did, that'd be silly.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:00 pm

The Yokudans are badasses. They can cut whatever they set their minds to. Why is it so impossible, in this world of fantasy, to imagine a technique that could cut the atomos? Especially when their techniques pretty much transcend all the physical tom-foolery?


It's not the idea that they can cut atoms with a "spirit sword." It's the assumption that "cutting atoms = instant kaboom" which an oversimplification of thermonuclear detonation. It has to get critical mass after the Pankratosword technique.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:15 pm

It's not the idea that they can cut atoms with a "spirit sword." It's the assumption that "cutting atoms = instant kaboom" which an oversimplification of thermonuclear detonation. It has to get critical mass after the Pankratosword technique.

Did you sleep with a memory stone under your pillow last night and woke up with the secrets of the Ansu (not that the pankratosword would be stored there)? Who's to say that the usage of the Pankratosword doesn't bring all the ducks in a row for a nuclear explosion right then and there? Why do laws of nature have to be brought in even here when we're essentially talking about sword-magic? Of course, I have no idea how much time elapses for critical mass to be achieved, not knowing much about the IRL subject. All I know is this: When Cyrus feinted Vehk using the Pankratosword stance, their dialogue heavily indicated that its usage would mean death right then and there.


@ Tes96:
"Surahoon," he said, "We are the ansu, the greatest warriors that live in men. Our swords sent the Left-Handers into the oceans, whose empire was four times the size of the white king. When we fight, our swords can kill the laws of nature itself. Yokuda is as you see it because our hira-dirg swords can cut the atomos, the uncuttable, and we did. We are the ansu, and we tell you now that you cannot beat the Ansu-Gurleht. How do you think he came by that name? Who do you think was our finest student?"

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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:12 pm

If there is no emporer... then TES V might be to end rebelion and revolt trying to take over Cyrodill.
TES V might be just Tamriel going into chaos because there is no emporer! Hey! It sounds like TES IV repeat!
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:31 pm

If there is no emporer... then TES V might be to end rebelion and revolt trying to take over Cyrodill.
TES V might be just Tamriel going into chaos because there is no emporer! Hey! It sounds like TES IV repeat!


We know from the excerpt of Gregory Keyes' novel "The Infernal City" that there's an emperor by at least 20 years after the Oblivion Crisis. Annaig mentions in the excerpt that Titus Mede is trying to rebuild the Empire, and that he has a son named Attrebus. So figure that the son is in his 20s or 30s, and the novel is set 45 years or so after the Crisis. Anyway, it looks as if there will be a dynasty after the Septims, and rumors have it that TES V will be set about 200 years after the Crisis. I don't think it will be a repeat of "Oblivion". (Though it wouldn't surprise me if the Empire is smaller than Uriel's empire -- maybe similar to the Western Empire of our own world's history.)

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1051564&st=0
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:30 pm

If you're going to go there, you might aswell just go on to say the entire concept of Magic flawed because it makes no sense in terms of Physics. But if you did, that'd be silly.

Yeah, you have a point there.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:07 pm

And? You still can't "cut" an atom with your so-called "spirit sword". Atoms have to smash into each other to break apart, like in a particle accelerator.


The entire point of magic is to be magical. So arguing that something isn't possible in a series with magic involved is quite silly.

Anyways back to topic, what I am wondering is how this floating city will effect TES V... or what will be happening in Skyrim that is so important. Maybe the Nords are going to war to overthrow the Empire once and for all?

The plot thickens.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:01 pm

Did you sleep with a memory stone under your pillow last night and woke up with the secrets of the Ansu (not that the pankratosword would be stored there)? Who's to say that the usage of the Pankratosword doesn't bring all the ducks in a row for a nuclear explosion right then and there? Why do laws of nature have to be brought in even here when we're essentially talking about sword-magic?


Because it's obviously more complicated than just "cutting the atom" and I'm tired of these ignorant misconceptions about nuclear physics (like how in Civ4 a nuclear meltdown is treated as a thermonuclear explosion :banghead:). It's bad enough Oblivion puts in wolves, bears, etc. and makes them suicidally aggressive killing machines due to questionable combat AI.

In other words, this isn't about whether the magic is "possible," its about using an ignorant misunderstanding of science as an anology for this magic.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:12 pm

In other words, this isn't about whether the magic is "possible," its about using an ignorant misunderstanding of science as an anology for this magic.

Is it? Is it really? Or do you just think that? :frog:
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:58 pm

So Bethesda should incorporate an Alternate Energy Source Counsel Department
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:58 pm

Because it's obviously more complicated than just "cutting the atom" and I'm tired of these ignorant misconceptions about nuclear physics (like how in Civ4 a nuclear meltdown is treated as a thermonuclear explosion :banghead:). It's bad enough Oblivion puts in wolves, bears, etc. and makes them suicidally aggressive killing machines due to questionable combat AI.

In other words, this isn't about whether the magic is "possible," its about using an ignorant misunderstanding of science as an anology for this magic.

Even if it is a dev misconception of a nuclear explosion, it's pretty irrelevant. Especially since we don't have access to the minute details of the Pankratosword, thus meaning technique loopholes can easily be created to explain why critical mass occurs instantaneously. And especially since Tamriel's atomos by no means has to mirror understandings and minute detail of Earth's atoms.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:29 pm

They are magic atoms. Now shut up about it.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:12 pm

So Bethesda should incorporate an Alternate Energy Source Counsel Department


To be fair, this is all Kirkbridian mumbo-jumbo. Bethesda barely even nudges us towards the Towers, regardless of whether it actually is in the holy filing cabinet of Super Lore or not.
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