So... the fact I got my Deadric armor is above 1400 is pointless? What the...!

Not pointless, if it's true that some enemies have armor ignoring perks. Then it would be situationally useful against certain opponents who wield blunt weapons.

Unfortunately, in my experience even this is not the case, even though there's an argument that enemies might have been assigned perks.

Oh well. We'll know for certain when the creation kit is released, I imagine.

Yeah lol I can get close to the cap wearing FUR. Take that daedric armor!

Honestly, this seems great to me.

It means that, once you've gotten your Armor & Smithing skills high enough, you have the ability to choose your armor by what you LIKE, not by "I've got to wear this terrible armor because I'll get slaughtered otherwise."

More options, more customization, more "RP". Cool.


(of course, until you get to that high level of ability, you still need to progress through the gear. But being able to eventually ignore that and pick armor based on theme/character/appearance is a nice thing to be able to work towards.)

If the cap wasn't there... well, 100% damage reduction from armour?

lol.

That would svck.

The cap is also cool in conjunction with smithing because you can wear what you want not what you need.

So I know I can approach the cap with my steel plate set as my smithing improves.
The armour pretty much levels up with me if I keep pace with smithing and do regular upgrading.
I can rest easy in the knowledge that my virtuous paladin won't be forced to wear Deadric armour to survive.

so does this mean the max damage you can take is around 700? Since 567 is 80% damage reduction, the enemy is "theoretically" doing 20% more than that. i.e. 80% dmg reduction is determined by the most dmg you can receive?

That has absolutely nothing to do with it. Your armor value is not subtracted directly from damage. Each point of armor is worth 0.12% damage mitigation. That's where we're getting the 667 value. At that point, you'll have 80.04% damage mitigation, but because of the cap, it will just be 80%. Anything beyond it will also still be capped at 80%.

also, that list of armor does not mention anything at all about wolf armor, which is a heavy armor...where does it rank on that list?

Ive a thread about this in the mod section http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1308847-req-uncap-armor/

So then, that 80% would fluxuate? Say a wolf whacks me for 10 dmg, I would only take 2? Compared to a dragon who is whacking me for 100, I would only take 20? if my armor rating is capped...

Yes, of course. That's how percentages work.

So then how does magic/elemental dmg affect you? Say I get whacked for my 20dmg, but on top of that there is 20 frost dmg. I read armor doesn't mitigate elemental/magical, so do you take a straight 20 frost dmg (assuming you have no resistance), or is there an equation that figures it out (assuming that is, that you are no playing post 1.2 and actually have working resistances).

Omg. Do people not know simple math now????? Percentages are not quantum physics. If you got hit for 20 physical dmg and 20 magic damage simultaneously and you were capped on resists (80% physical 85% magical) you would take 4 physical dmg and 3 magical dmg = 7 dmg.......

If you had no magic resists and capped physical you would take 24 dmg total.

Magic damage is totally separate from combat damage. Magic and elemental resistances stack multiplicatively as you'd expect them to. If you get hit with a 100 damage fire spell and you have 85% magic resistance and 85% fire resistance, the spell would do 2.25 damage. And yes, damage is a float. Your health can go out to the second decimal place. An enchanted weapon would have separate resistance against its physical damage (your armor) and its magical damage (magic/elemental resistance).

How do people get to that high amount of armor? (1000+) I have full Daedric and 100 in smith, 5/5 juggernaut and 1/1 in the 25% more armor if wearing full heavy and I'm only at like 662 armor or so, how the hell do you go that high? o.O

Edit: Obviously all pieces are Legendary quality.

Enchanting potions to give yourself +109 Smithing + Blacksmith potion 50%, 160 smithing improves Legendary. The grade stops at Legendary but you can still improve it.

So no one has confirmed if blunt using enemies Ignore Armor?