About Lorkhan, or Shor, or Shezzar.

Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:51 am

Tiber was no more Anuic than he was Padomaic. Same with Wulfharth. They were both Dragonborn and Shezzarine. They were a microcosm of Aka and Lork who are a microcosm of Anu and Padomay.

And as was said above Aedra and Anuic (or Daedra and Padomaic) aren't the same thing. Lorkhan is a Padomaic Aedra and Jygallag is an Anuic Daedra. Talos is special because he's what you get when the both sides realize they're the same.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:47 pm

I like how much people's opinions differ on the matter.

@Nordjitsu, because of the quote from the Mysterium Xarxes I posted?
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:05 pm

"The Third, all the tinder of Anu."

That isn't very convincing. Tinder of Anu could simply be creatia. Lorkhan (like all things below the subgradient of Anu/Padomay) is made of the interplay between the two forces.

And, again, Anuic only means "more aligned towards Anu."

Talos and Lorkhan both seem to be much closer to Padomay.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:24 pm

Moreover, I wonder if Anu and Padhome really even plot within the Niner weltanschauung.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:25 pm

Moreover, I wonder if Anu and Padhome really even plot within the Niner weltanschauung.

Having no real knowledge of philosophy that doesn't come from quick trips to Wikipedia after seeing some phrase used on these forums (usually by you, actually), I can only say that "weltanschauung" as a word looks vaguely dirty and should never be used in front of children.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:09 pm

He's also Padomaic at the same time, since, y'know, enantiomorph and all that.

This is how I'm getting to understand how things work. An Enantiomorph is a coin with two sides, or a magnet with two poles. The two cannot really be separated. When one side sacrifices itself, the other side is betrayed.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:06 pm

"The Third, all the tinder of Anu."

That isn't very convincing. Tinder of Anu could simply be creatia. Lorkhan (like all things below the subgradient of Anu/Padomay) is made of the interplay between the two forces.

And, again, Anuic only means "more aligned towards Anu."

Talos and Lorkhan both seem to be much closer to Padomay.
I don't see how that quote can possibly mean they are more Padomaic than Anuic. The whole point of the quotes in the Mysterium is to show the distinction between Anu and Padomay: Anuic=Aedric=Talos, Padomaic=Daedric=Daedra prince.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:06 pm

I don't see how that quote can possibly mean they are more Padomaic than Anuic. The whole point of the quotes in the Mysterium is to show the distinction between Anu and Padomay: Anuic=Aedric=Talos, Padomaic=Daedric=Daedra prince.

Tinder: dry wood or other easily combustible material. In this case, basically fallen pieces.

Anu: The primordial force of stasis.

Padomay: Primordial force of change

Aetherius: Change made solid. The realm that is more attuned to Anu. Bits of this realm sometimes fall into mundus. These bits are also sometimes called "creatia."

Oblivion: Echo of the void. The realm that is more attuned to Padomay.

Lorkhan is literally the son of Padomay. I gave you a few quotes earlier in the thread and I'm sure you can find more on your own if you care to. So he is definitely padomaic. Also, being the god that upset the cosmic balance of the universe and created Nirn, he is obviously a bringer of CHANGE. But, since he participated in creation, he is an Aedra (ancestor.)

Talos mantled Lorkhan. Lorkhan is padomaic. So Talos is padomaic. Also, Talos was obviously a bringer of CHANGE. He upset the balance of Nirn. He upset the balance of the heavens. But he was also part of an enantiomorph. This means he's both sides of the coin. So ya, he's got some anuic too. Because once he brought change and chaos, he followed it up by establishing ORDER (stasis.)

I just think you're reading way to much into that quote.
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