Nevermind.

No-one notices my thread... :sadvaultboy:

Anyhow the 360 (I think) uses a Dual-Layer DVD ROM to format their games means its only around the size of 9GB. Now that games have improved the 360 has to either make multiple disks or make it downloadable to get the best quality, whereas other consoles use disks with larger formats like with 20GB of space per disk but only slightly increasing the price.

So hopefully when the Xbox 720 comes out they'll use better disk formats like HD DVD's or use Blu-ray.

To put the same amount of data on a slightly larger disc, but also add all of the new stuff we'll be getting something has to go. attributes, birth-signs, skills, separate armor pieces, etc. that is how they will fit the game on one disc.

Sure. In related news, Bethesda suffers a huge financial downfall by only making their game for a limited audience as opposed to all three platforms, and the one they did choose - hm - the easiest for piracy.

Bethesda is a company. Companies like money. Best of luck, there, pal.

They'll have to. A DVD format is barely acceptable for the current-generation... but next generation content with all its textures and poly counts... a larger disk format is a must.

Separate armor pieces was to put more NPC in one zone. Birth signs really? Attributes three are still in plus the attributes where replaced with perks.

No need to worry or panic about this.

I'm sure the game will fit on one disk, but the loading time will be a headache for Xbox.

Remember Todd's keyword in every interview: "Dynamic"
More dynamic content = less space + more loading time.

But Microsoft like to rob people blind by deliberately having a poor disk format so we buy other equipment like Hard drives or Memory sticks so we can install the game on, but at the same time keeping the game the same price as its competitors, e.g. Sony, Wii etc...

So while Sony are selling games on 1 disk for ￡40 on PS3. Microsoft are selling games that either have 2 disks or poor graphics for 360 as well at ￡40.

Yes. It's gotten to the point where we have more RAM than DVD space!

I suppose mentioning Crytek in any way is supposedly stupid, right?

my point exactly there things were removed or replaced by something else rather than having them and the new content too.

That i hope not, cause the loading times in Oblivion are already pretty....well....bad. At least on my 360 they are, constant loading times for going in/out of buildings, sometimes it loads for a long time , and another time it loads that exact same part in a matter of seconds. Oblivion wasn't really well optimized for 360, i love the game to death and it doesn't bother me incredibly much..but i hope to see some quicker loading times this time around.

And i for one am glad as hell they have started developing for console since Morrowind, cause i have given up on PC gaming a long time ago. Believe me, i was a big pc gamer, but after awhile it just wasn't worth it anymore. But this is not the thread for that.

It will be fine don't worry

It doesn't matter. Most companies would like to get away with as little as possible, I'm sure (although Sony took a risky move that, sadly, proved itself to not be a success in our consumerist world)... but there's a bar to be reached. If any next-generation platform lacks a better disk format and a hard drive as a standard, that console should hopefully be ignored by game companies. There is a bar... a standard, of sorts, that console manufacturers are bound to comply with and DVD is already a bit below the bar. Hopefully, with the advent of next-generation consoles, Blu-Ray will also become more adopted by the PC as a standard, as well. Then again, if people who know little of disk formats buy said platform in large-enough amounts and become a major platform base, developers might not be so willing to ignore them, but that's highly unlikely as I'll assume people will eventually care about HD disk formats (such as Blu-Ray) and will recognize the advantages of Blu-Ray while Blu-Ray also doesn't result in a more expensive console. The problem is price. Consumers gravitate towards cheaper products, more often than not... but not, Blu-Ray and Blu-Ray drives are getting cheaper, so hopefully price won't be much of an issue as it was back in late 2006/early 2007 (PS3's release in Japan and the West, respectively) and people, now completely complimented by cheaper and more affordable HDTVs, will see the value in a console that doubles as a Blu-Ray player. I'm sure developers are already frustrated by current limitations and want a new console generation... but there's simply too large of a fanbase invested into the 360, at the moment, to ignore DVD/lack of hard drive limitations.

I've seen The Witcher 2 compressed to 7gb.

They greatly increases the audio sizes because they discovered new methods of compression. So that freed up a LOT of space.

I think they will focus on the game, not so much the space. And is that 8gig the new disk? Cuz I new they improved it somewhat recently.

Elaborate on the poor graphics on 360 please.

So they'll just... ignore the space restrictions?

"Todd, we're 500MB over capacity."

"I don't care, ship it."

"Todd, we can't do..."

"I DON'T CARE!"



You might want to take a seat. The Xbox 360 is almost 7 years old. By today's technological standards, that is very old. The hardware is inferior compared to an average 2011 PC.

the only reason Crytek's technichal demo called Crysis was ever popular is because people were like" OMFG IT SETS MY GAMER PRO RIG ON FIRE!!!!!! :flamethrower: :flamethrower: :flamethrower:" Crysis was good for a linear stealth and cover based shooter....but not really a game you put more than 12 hours into( excluding mods) its not really a bad game... But they put graphics over gameplay....and then they sold out to consoles anyways with #2( might be probably is EA's fault, but still)

OT: ever heard of compression? with the amount of content thats dynamic, and the fact that the 360 has lower res textures...the loading times will be (are, after seeing the QC demo) awful but the game will fit on one disc..it does for PC so i don't know why people would think it doesn't for the 360...

Yeah! Money>Fans' requests! :celebration:

No, I just think they won't stress it too much until they need to make cuts. They won't cut stuff that'll make the game worse. Besides, they have a new compression system. Beth has really learned their way around a 360, I just don't think space is a huge issue anymore.

It sold rather poorly... until it was on sale on Steam.

I'm sure that wouldn't work as I think the console players would be requesting the game for their systems.

I don't really think theres much of a difference but if you go on youtube I'm sure you'll find a video explaining it.