About the Alduin statue.

Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:53 am

I was telling my mom about it after she asked why I was always looking at pictures of 'that Dragon thing' and she scoffed and said "It's probably made out of cheap plastic!" I told her it was "High quality" PVC and she laughed and said "Yup, plastic."

I then began to get worried, remember the collectors edition of Arkham Asylum and it's cheap plasticy batarang.

Is this statue going to be a hefty thing or will it be a cheap plasticy thing with a chunk of metal screwed into the bottom so it doesnt fly off in my hands? I am possibly reconsidering my pre-order of the collectors edition based on this.
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:06 am

It will probably be like the Halo Reach statue.
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I believe it will be plastic, alot of time game companys or even company's in general will say its HIGH QUALITY PVC, this can be truth yet lie, here is a example

My best buddies got me 2 Final Fantasy 7 PVC statues,costing $200 EACH, one of Vincent and one of Shepy *can't spell full name :/*

Vincent's fingers *all* on his class hand broke off when barely even touched after removing it from packaging,
Shepy's katana sword blade broke off at the hilt after having it for a few months.

Another example incase people say "well its not real HIGH QUALITY PVC cuz it was imported and shipping damaged it"

I bought myself a PVC statue that also claimed it was HIGHEST QUALITY PVC from ANIME EXPO, I checked it out before I bought it and everything was great quality, amazing really, unless I tried to take off the clothing (yes it was one of THOSE :wub: ) as soon as I removed the shirt, the arm broke off.

These were all import but I checked them all out and they broke within a month or sooner


So ask yourself this, will you be happy to just have a statue collecting dust or put proudly on your desk that COULD break after a few months?
Do you think spending $150 on BAISCLY this statue that COULD have a risk of breaking alot or even just a ALITTLE a risk to you and worth it?


You decide, for me I am sticking to the normal edition even tho I want that artbook, box,game and making of DVD but i will pass on a statue even tho i love them, no way in hell is it worth that much money, MAYBE if it was $120 but id rather buy it at $100 ONLY.


REALLY it is a 50/50 chance of breaking even a small part maybe i was very unlucky but still, I rather not risk it if I was you, but who knows it could be a sound infestment for something to collect dust, i saw this even tho I have a crap load of anime figures, i like them but i know most are not worth more than $20-40 n thats a mask price, hell one of them WAS $80 but got the price down to $40 n the hair is coming off and colour is fading
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:32 am

Yeah, far as I know "high quality PVC" is the same stuff that is used to make anime figurines and such, which if the Aerith figurine my wife bought me is anything to go by, is pretty nice, sturdy material.
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:47 am

I believe it will be plastic, alot of time game companys or even company's in general will say its HIGH QUALITY PVC, this can be truth yet lie, here is a example

My best buddies got me 2 Final Fantasy 7 PVC statues,costing $200 EACH, one of Vincent and one of Shepy *can't spell full name :/*

Vincent's fingers *all* on his class hand broke off when barely even touched after removing it from packaging,
Shepy's katana sword blade broke off at the hilt after having it for a few months.

Another example incase people say "well its not real HIGH QUALITY PVC cuz it was imported and shipping damaged it"

I bought myself a PVC statue that also claimed it was HIGHEST QUALITY PVC from ANIME EXPO, I checked it out before I bought it and everything was great quality, amazing really, unless I tried to take off the clothing (yes it was one of THOSE :wub: ) as soon as I removed the shirt, the arm broke off.

These were all import but I checked them all out and they broke within a month or sooner


So ask yourself this, will you be happy to just have a statue collecting dust or put proudly on your desk that COULD break after a few months?
Do you think spending $150 on BAISCLY this statue that COULD have a risk of breaking alot or even just a ALITTLE a risk to you and worth it?


You decide, for me I am sticking to the normal edition even tho I want that artbook, box,game and making of DVD but i will pass on a statue even tho i love them, no way in hell is it worth that much money, MAYBE if it was $120 but id rather buy it at $100 ONLY.

This.

I'll most likely lurk around eBay on the days after Skyrim's release, looking to buy some 'pieces' of the collector's edition such as the Artbook and 'Making of' DVD.
If not, then I want at least to get my hands on the Artbook :wub:
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:45 am

This.

I'll most likely lurk around eBay on the days after Skyrim's release, looking to buy some 'pieces' of the collector's edition such as the Artbook and 'Making of' DVD.
If not, then I want at least to get my hands on the Artbook :wub:

Yes for sure that artbook
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:24 am

I believe it will be plastic, alot of time game companys or even company's in general will say its HIGH QUALITY PVC, this can be truth yet lie, here is a example

My best buddies got me 2 Final Fantasy 7 PVC statues,costing $200 EACH, one of Vincent and one of Shepy *can't spell full name :/*

Vincent's fingers *all* on his class hand broke off when barely even touched after removing it from packaging,
Shepy's katana sword blade broke off at the hilt after having it for a few months.

Another example incase people say "well its not real HIGH QUALITY PVC cuz it was imported and shipping damaged it"

I bought myself a PVC statue that also claimed it was HIGHEST QUALITY PVC from ANIME EXPO, I checked it out before I bought it and everything was great quality, amazing really, unless I tried to take off the clothing (yes it was one of THOSE :wub: ) as soon as I removed the shirt, the arm broke off.

These were all import but I checked them all out and they broke within a month or sooner


So ask yourself this, will you be happy to just have a statue collecting dust or put proudly on your desk that COULD break after a few months?
Do you think spending $150 on BAISCLY this statue that COULD have a risk of breaking alot or even just a ALITTLE a risk to you and worth it?

true, even so called quality plastic figurines are still fragile, however, odds are I won't be trying to take the clothes off my Alduin statue. basically the whole point of this thing IS to sit on a desk proudly collecting dust, that's all i need it to do.
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:38 am

Polyvinyl chloride is a very durable thermoplastic polymer. It's made of repeating vinyl groups which give it strength and durabilty, while still remaining malleable enough to sculpt, which is why it is used to often make statues. It is one of the most durable plastics and has high longevity due to its many resisitances. It's resistant against cold, heat (not extreme heat), electricity, and it's water proof to boot! In fact much of your house's piping may be made of PVC as metal is not as stong against water and acids like PVC is. It's also cheap to make, making it the 3rd most manufactured plastic in America. It will have some weight to it as they often preesurize the plastic when making statues. All in all, PVC isn't that bad of a material to make statues out of and the likelyhood of it it breaking is slim to none.
PS: I studied plastics a lot for project I did a while ago, so that's how I know about this stuff :tongue:
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:54 pm

I ordered the CE for the artbook. The statue is just going to sit on a shelf somewhere. If it can do that, I'm satisfied.
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:57 am

true, even so called quality plastic figurines are still fragile, however, odds are I won't be trying to take the clothes off my Alduin statue. basically the whole point of this thing IS to sit on a desk proudly collecting dust, that's all i need it to do.


Ok well than you will enjoy it, I gave other examples you know if you read before and after-__- alot of them broke right away those are only a few ones i gave


Polyvinyl chloride is a very durable thermoplastic polymer. It's made of repeating vinyl groups which give it strength and durabilty, while still remaining malleable enough to sculpt, which is why it is used to often make statues. It is one of the most durable plastics and has high longevity due to its many resisitances. It's resistant against cold, heat (not extreme heat), electricity, and it's water proof to boot! In fact much of your house's piping may be made of PVC as metal is not as stong against water and acids like PVC is. It's also cheap to make, making it the 3rd most manufactured plastic in America. It will have some weight to it as they often preesurize the plastic when making statues. All in all, PVC isn't that bad of a material to make statues out of and the likelyhood of it it breaking is slim to none.
PS: I studied plastics a lot for project I did a while ago, so that's how I know about this stuff :tongue:


Than what happend to most of my PVC statues T________T
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:27 am

I know how you feel man, it's a bit of a worry that some collectables are poor quality. I've got shelves full of game related figures and it's easy to pick out which ones were worth the money. Sadly, if you're not able to pick it up off a shelf and look at it yourself it's hard to tell how good it's going to be. I'm hoping to get Alduin and it does look pretty impressive. I say go for it and if it arrives and is shoddy, sell it on ebay to some svcker. You'll either get to keep everything or keep all the other stuff and make some money off the dragon.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:59 pm

After all the complaining, someone should definitely make an Alduin statue in-game item as a melee weapon to get revenge on the enemies in-game.
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:35 am

I was telling my mom about it after she asked why I was always looking at pictures of 'that Dragon thing' and she scoffed and said "It's probably made out of cheap plastic!" I told her it was "High quality" PVC and she laughed and said "Yup, plastic."

I then began to get worried, remember the collectors edition of Arkham Asylum and it's cheap plasticy batarang.

Is this statue going to be a hefty thing or will it be a cheap plasticy thing with a chunk of metal screwed into the bottom so it doesnt fly off in my hands? I am possibly reconsidering my pre-order of the collectors edition based on this.

Your mom is right it is made out of cheap plastic and the statue is probably made in a Chinese sweatshop.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:42 pm

I know how you feel man, it's a bit of a worry that some collectables are poor quality. I've got shelves full of game related figures and it's easy to pick out which ones were worth the money. Sadly, if you're not able to pick it up off a shelf and look at it yourself it's hard to tell how good it's going to be. I'm hoping to get Alduin and it does look pretty impressive. I say go for it and if it arrives and is shoddy, sell it on ebay to some svcker (those people who like anime might go for it if you tape some fake female anatomy onto it). You'll either get to keep everything or keep all the other stuff and make some money off the dragon.



I take alot of offense to that.... I don't want no stupid dragon
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:09 pm

well i'm no plastics expert but i'm guess that even strong plastic that's thin will break easily. i've own several statues berfoe and though I am unsure what they were made of the more small detail parts always seemed to break off. from looking at the statue the legs and jaw region looked pretty thin.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:04 pm

I take alot of offense to that.... I don't want no stupid dragon


Dude I don't mean to sound cruel, but buying figurines that have removable clothing is a little odd. Just figured there'd be a market for dragons that do the same thing.
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:31 am

Than what happend to most of my PVC statues T________T

You most likely had uncompressed or unpressurized PVC used in your statues, my friend. The label "high-quality" basically means that the plastic is simply pressurized and made more durable. I believe you said you had imports that broke which makes sense as in other countries, where the plastics industries are not as experienced as ours, they will simply take any plastic and build whatever figurine the blueprint says, without taking the correct precautionary measures to ensure the durability of the plastic. :thumbsup:
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:12 pm

well i'm no plastics expert but i'm guess that even strong plastic that's thin will break easily. i've own several statues berfoe and though I am unsure what they were made of the more small detail parts always seemed to break off. from looking at the statue the legs and jaw region looked pretty thin.

yes :(

Dude I don't mean to sound cruel, but buying figurines that have removable clothing is a little odd. Just figured there'd be a market for dragons that do the same thing.

ok, well think before you type more so atleast, there might be a market but don't clump all people together like that please k?

I use it for drawing, i cant seem to draw anything unless it is 3D :(

You most likely had uncompressed or unpressurized PVC used in your statues, my friend. The label "high-quality" basically means that the plastic is simply pressurized and made more durable. I believe you said you had imports that broke which makes sense as in other countries, where the plastics industries are not as experienced as ours, they will simply take any plastic and build whatever figurine the blueprint says, without taking the correct precautionary measures to ensure the durability of the plastic. :thumbsup:

that is true but how do we know this statue wasn't made overseas? does it say anywhere it is made in the USA? And if it is so mass produced than why is it making the CE such a huge price?
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:55 am

it reminds me of the infamous 2 statue
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:06 pm

I have the Halo Reach sstatue and while I dont know what it's made of, it's very sturdy and nice. Not cheap or [censored].

I however will wait for the price to drop. I preordered Reach for $150, but now they're still selling legendary edition for $90. I learned my lesson.
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:26 am

that is true but how do we know this statue wasn't made overseas? does it say anywhere it is made in the USA? And if it is so mass produced than why is it making the CE such a huge price?

I think you might have misunderstood, statues, whicha re designed then mass produced in foreign countries are often bad, but if the statue is designed in America, which it is, then mass produced somewhere else there will be no problem. :thumbsup: The price could be because of the book? But if it's not, it's probably due to the fact that PVC units, what the statue is sculpted out of, are about 65 bucks a kilo. So if the game is 60 bucks and the book is probably roughly valued at 50 bucks so thats $110. The statue probably weighs a little over half a kilo, so I'd put the price at $40 dollars a statue which gives you $150 :thumbsup:
PS: PVC is cheap for a plastic, because making polymers is usually expensive. They make a lot of money off of it since it's so durable and applicable in so many situations, and so they are able to mass produce it
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:58 am

I think you might have misunderstood, statues, whicha re designed then mass produced in foreign countries are often bad, but if the statue is designed in America, which it is, then mass produced somewhere else there will be no problem. :thumbsup: The price could be because of the book? But if it's not, it's probably due to the fact that PVC units, what the statue is sculpted out of, are about 65 bucks a kilo. So if the game is 60 bucks and the book is probably roughly valued at 50 bucks so thats $110. The statue probably weighs a little over half a kilo, so I'd put the price at $40 dollars a statue which gives you $150 :thumbsup:

Nope didn't misunderstand really but how do you know it is made in the USA? The statue I mean
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:42 pm

Nope didn't misunderstand really but how do you know it is made in the USA? The statue I mean

lol I already told you. I know that the statue is designed in America. What I don't know is where it's mass produced and that really doesn't matter. As long as the designs for the statue were made by people trusted by Bethesda, there will be no problem in quality. And we know we can trust them as they modeled the statue right after one of the game files which may mean they had someone come to the offices and discuss with them the design of the sculpture. It's only when you have a designers be the same people who mass produce that you get problems because they will often only use the least plastic they can so their factory can be efficient.
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Post » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:30 am

lol I already told you. I know that the statue is designed in America. What I don't know is where it's mass produced and that really doesn't matter. As long as the designs for the statue were made by people trusted by Bethesda, there will be no problem in quality. And we know we can trust them as they modeled the statue right after one of the game files which may mean they had someone come to the offices and discuss with them the design of the sculpture. It's only when you have a designers be the same people who mass produce that you get problems because they will often only use the least plastic they can so their factory can be efficient.

Ok even tho I do not see a source saying someone in the USA is making the statue *I am only wary about this because of how many stuff gets transfer over to CHINA to be made and all cuz of how less it would cost them) I will believe you, hopefuly it will be made correctly and not crappy but I still will not be getting it, mostly because I don't care for dragons in the least and because it would be collecting dust *were my other statues are they are behind glass so ya hardly any dust lol*

Really want that artbook tho :(
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:48 pm

Ok even tho I do not see a source saying someone in the USA is making the statue *I am only wary about this because of how many stuff gets transfer over to CHINA to be made and all cuz of how less it would cost them) I will believe you, hopefuly it will be made correctly and not crappy but I still will not be getting it, mostly because I don't care for dragons in the least and because it would be collecting dust *were my other statues are they are behind glass so ya hardly any dust lol*

Really want that artbook tho :(

Yea I wans't going to get it either until my dad gave the CE pre-order receipt and said "happy birthday son." :cry:
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