About the Ashlanders...

Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:55 pm

As far as I can tell, the Ashlanders are dying out (Temple not so keen on them, others thinking they are backwards people, etc...)
There are 4 main Ashlander camps left and I was wondering if there was any other mention of other camps now gone for X reason.

If such a camp exists, could you point me towards texts that refer to it? Thank you!
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Petr Jordy Zugar
 
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:09 pm

As far as I can tell, the Ashlanders are dying out (Temple not so keen on them, others thinking they are backwards people, etc...)
There are 4 main Ashlander camps left and I was wondering if there was any other mention of other camps now gone for X reason.

If such a camp exists, could you point me towards texts that refer to it? Thank you!

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With what happened to Morrowind, I'm assuming they're already all dead.

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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:08 pm

Without too much spoilers, as you don't seem to have read it, Infernal City took care of them. they're all gone.

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Morrowind is completely destroyed, either by MoT impact, Red Mountain Exploding due to MoT, or Argonians invading. There may be a few stray Ashlanders that escaped, but I highly doubt it, being so far from civilisation.


Although, the temple became more to it's roots with the impact from the Nerevarine, so they may have went to join the temple.


Speaking pre-Infernal City, though, there prbably was other camps dotted around Vvardenfell, though. The in-game representation of Vvardenfell was far off scale, it's roughly the size of Australia, I believe. Or was that Daggerfall? I don't know. Either way, there would have been tons of ashlander camps, and the main ones would have been a lot larger than they are in game.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:32 pm

Again, Morrowind is not completely destroyed. Vvardenfell, part of Morrowind, is. But either way, it's not "destroyed", it's just wiped out from life. It can and will be re-inhabitable in a few hundred years.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:45 pm

Again, Morrowind is not completely destroyed. Vvardenfell, part of Morrowind, is. But either way, it's not "destroyed", it's just wiped out from life. It can and will be re-inhabitable in a few hundred years.

Sadly, it will be by Argonians.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:29 pm

Sadly, it will be by Argonians.

5.911 called, it would like to introduce you to its theopunk Morrowind-dwelling Dunmer.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:32 pm

Thanks for you replies, I really feel sorry for them Ahslanders now.
I didn't know about the Argonians attaking and decimating Ashlanders though.

Where can I read more about the demise of the Ashlanders? (Argonian raids and about the infernal city)
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:54 pm

Thanks for you replies, I really feel sorry for them Ahslanders now.
I didn't know about the Argonians attaking and decimating Ashlanders though.

Where can I read more about the demise of the Ashlanders? (Argonian raids and about the infernal city)

You could read the Elder Scrolls novel(The Infernal City).

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In short, the Ministry of Truth crashed into Vivec, destroying it and everything on the surface of Vvardenfell. Then, Argonians from Black Marsh invaded the mainland and defeated the Dunmer.

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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:02 pm

You could read the Elder Scrolls novel(The Infernal City).

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In short, the Ministry of Truth crashed into Vivec, destroying it and everything on the surface of Vvardenfell. Then, Argonians from Black Marsh invaded the mainland and defeated the Dunmer.



Ah, I did a bit of reading and finally got it, the events you all refered to happen post-Morrowind-MQ, hence my confusion.

So before it all went Kaboom, before Dagoth Ur was defeated and before even Morrowind became part of the Empire, is there any litterature on the Ashlanders and their way of life?
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:39 pm

I'm not sure that all the Ashlanders were wiped out, when you figure that they're the Dunmer who are most used to wilderness survival, hunting and gathering, and so on. I think if any survived the initial impact and Red Mountain cooking off, they would have been best advised to flee to a port and leave Vvardenfell, though. I can't picture them travelling to Solstheim so much as Hammerfell or somewhere like that.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:07 pm

Keep in mind there's ashlands on the mainland as well that could have surviving ashlanders. And not to beat a dead horse, but the Argonians didn't completely clear the mainland. That isn't reasonably possible, even for a large invasion force. There are certainly still pockets of Dunmer in Morrowind the Argonians missed. Not to mention places like Telvannis and Blacklight where a good portion of Dunmer could remain untouched due to isolation.

But I think it's possible for ashlanders to still be thriving in the ashlands on the mainland.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:30 pm

Meh, the loss of the ashlanders doesn't bother me too much. They too were extremely static, a trait chaos finds intolerable.

Other than my personal dislike, those in Vvardenfel are likely to be wiped out completely, as they were situated too much in the wilderness and were far away from any transportation. The ones on the mainland have a better chance, but I don't expect the ones in the middle and southern parts to be doing very well, as the disaster would have hurt their survival, and the argonians would have made things infinitely worse. The only way those in southern and middle morrowind would have been doing well is if they were in really remote and hard to reach areas. The northern ashlanders were most likely spared from the majority of the ash and disaster. Though I'd like to think they were too stubborn and backwards to realize they need to head north into Solstheim and eventually died out.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:32 pm

Meh, the loss of the ashlanders doesn't bother me too much. They too were extremely static, a trait chaos finds intolerable.

But think of the KNOWLEDGE that died with those guys! The Knowledge!

Other than my personal dislike, those in Vvardenfel are likely to be wiped out completely, as they were situated too much in the wilderness and were far away from any transportation. The ones on the mainland have a better chance, but I don't expect the ones in the middle and southern parts to be doing very well, as the disaster would have hurt their survival, and the argonians would have made things infinitely worse. The only way those in southern and middle morrowind would have been doing well is if they were in really remote and hard to reach areas. The northern ashlanders were most likely spared from the majority of the ash and disaster. Though I'd like to think they were too stubborn and backwards to realize they need to head north into Solstheim and eventually died out.

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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:55 pm

Knowledge? Ha! The amount they petty, weak wanderers who barely were scrapping before the Red Year, and half-baked prophecies that amount to nothing.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:07 pm

Knowledge? Ha! The amount they petty, weak wanderers who barely were scrapping before the Red Year, and half-baked prophecies that amount to nothing.

Nothing, apart from ya' know, the downfall of the entire nation. A return to Veloth indeed, you can't help but have a nomadic revolution once all the cities have been destroyed (which is just what the Ashlanders wanted, even if not through these particular means).
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:56 pm

Nothing, apart from ya' know, the downfall of the entire nation. A return to Veloth indeed, you can't help but have a nomadic revolution once all the cities have been destroyed (which is just what the Ashlanders wanted, even if not through these particular means).

They got lucky that time. But anyone who knows anything about Volcanos would have had an idea. I bet they took a volcanologist and told them Red Mountain has the capacity to go boom and remove most if not all cities from Vvardenfel...That prophecy bit came from a volcanologist, with the other part of the prophecy tied to it!
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Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:36 am

They got lucky that time. But anyone who knows anything about Volcanos would have had an idea. I bet they took a volcanologist and told them Red Mountain has the capacity to go boom and remove most if not all cities from Vvardenfel...That prophecy bit came from a volcanologist, with the other part of the prophecy tied to it!


[censored], I knew they were good trackers... But so good trackers that they could find an volcanologist... IN THE TES UNIVERSE???? Knowledge, young man, is the key to enlightment. In ALL categories.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:06 pm

[censored], I knew they were good trackers... But so good trackers that they could find an volcanologist... IN THE TES UNIVERSE???? Knowledge, young man, is the key to enlightment. In ALL categories.

Nah, I bet they kidnapped one, using their ashlander highwaymen.
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Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:37 am

Nah, I bet they kidnapped one, using their ashlander highwaymen.


Hmpf.... True I guess... Still... How did they suceed to be the first in kidnapping the Volcanologist? They are not the only kidnappers in Vvardenfell (right?)! Think of their awesome ninja-kidnapping knowledge! The Knowledge young grasshopper!
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Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:53 am

Hmpf.... True I guess... Still... How did they suceed to be the first in kidnapping the Volcanologist? They are not the only kidnappers in Vvardenfell (right?)! Think of their awesome ninja-kidnapping knowledge! The Knowledge young grasshopper!

It's extremely easy to kidnap some wanderer! Especially a scholar.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:57 pm

There is competition, man. Like that Lnels Llando or whatever he was called.
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Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:33 am

Maybe the Ahessuma survived. It'd be pretty likely if they were hiding in Ald Daedroth at the time.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:07 pm

Maybe the Ahessuma survived. It'd be pretty likely if they were hiding in Ald Daedroth at the time.

At the time of the nerevarine. Afterwards, it is likely they could have moved back.
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Post » Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:40 am

Maybe the Ahessuma survived. It'd be pretty likely if they were hiding in Ald Daedroth at the time.

Even if they where, I doubt that amount of water would stop the lava from Red Mountain. It would likely go straight past it.
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Post » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:19 pm

Even if they where, I doubt that amount of water would stop the lava from Red Mountain. It would likely go straight past it.


Maybe some of the Ashlanders could take temporary refuge in the Urshilaku Burial Caverns, since they were extensive.

As a side issue, I wonder if anyone on Tamriel will ever again access the Cavern of the Failed Incarnates. Even if it weren't magically warded/sealed, which it might still be, it now has uncountable tons of ash or lava burying it. Maybe the player was meant to be the final visitor. (I always thought that was an impressive level, with the spirits standing next to their mummified remains.)
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