Accepting Outlanders

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:25 am

I just noticed every single NPC in Morrowind calls you an outlander, even if they're Breton, Orc or whatever themselves! Is this just because the game was limited or are you accepted as a native after your family has lived in Morrowind for (..) years?
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Danny Warner
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:51 am

... Gameplay mechanics s'pose.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:10 am

Just ignore that non-Dunmer say it. :thumbsdown:

It's something stupid. Like Tribunal starting pre- MQ.
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Philip Lyon
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:01 am

Wait a sec, there are actual voice files for it! That means it was intentional.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:29 pm

It's something stupid. Like Tribunal starting pre- MQ.


Easily explained away through Dragon Breaks. :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:46 am

Why couldn't it be as simple as them being born in Morrowind?

A good thing to remember is to not completely substitute something that is brought about by a game mechanic into the actualy game lore. Bad crap happens that way.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:54 am

I remember an explanation somewhere stating that even if you play as a dunmer, you are still easily recognized as an outlander by the way you present yourself and your accent. Subtle to the point of unnoticeable by an outlander's perspective, I suppose
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:49 am

Why couldn't it be as simple as them being born in Morrowind?

A good thing to remember is to not completely substitute something that is brought about by a game mechanic into the actualy game lore. Bad crap happens that way.


I don't think that's the only requirement.

Well, i suspected i was just a game limitation, but one can always ask.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:53 am

I remember an explanation somewhere stating that even if you play as a dunmer, you are still easily recognized as an outlander by the way you present yourself and your accent. Subtle to the point of unnoticeable by an outlander's perspective, I suppose

If only it was just the Dunmer saying that, though.

And unless someone wants to go hunting global variables in the CS and prove me wrong, even the outlanders call you an outlander.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:43 am

I would think they just recognize you as a fellow outlander and address you as such.
Being outlanders themselves I'm sure they don't mean it as an insult.
In fact, they make take pride in being outlanders as a direct result of Dunmer discrimination.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:56 am

I would think they just recognize you as a fellow outlander and address you as such.
Being outlanders themselves I'm sure they don't mean it as an insult.
In fact, they make take pride in being outlanders as a direct result of Dunmer discrimination.

Yeah, except they are the exact same voice files.
And the tone is the same.
King Helseth could call you an outlander at any minute, using the same snappish question as a Cammona Tong thug, but he is as much of an outlander as you are.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:59 am

It's possible that, in Morrowind, 'outlander' has become a colloquialism for 'stranger'. In a xenophobic and clannish society like the Dunmer, anyone you don't know is automatically an 'outsider' regardless of their apparent ethnicity, so the word could have acquired that connotation long before other races became common in Morrowind. Eventually, that use of the word could have become so accepted that even non-Dunmer (and even visitors to Morrowind) now use it without a second's thought to refer to anyone they don't know.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 am

Schism! *cough* schism must've caused it, disregard. *cough.*
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:38 am

Yeah, except they are the exact same voice files.
And the tone is the same.
King Helseth could call you an outlander at any minute, using the same snappish question as a Cammona Tong thug, but he is as much of an outlander as you are.

Helseth is a Dunmer. He uses Dunmer dialogue.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 9:18 pm

I see this mostly as a gameplay thing, including the fact that other races use the word, and that they have their own voicefiles for it. "Outlander" is just a very handy passepartout term to avoid having to use the player's name (which is impossible in spoken dialogue) or having to make individual voicefiles for every possible race that the player could play.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:19 am

Helseth is a Dunmer. He uses Dunmer dialogue.

Yes, exactly my point. And my circular argument.

Because of Gameplay he is an outlander calling you an outlander as well, thus my point that is is all gameplay.
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 11:46 pm

Since 'outlander' isn't necessarily insulting - high Disposition NPCs will still call you 'outlander' while they kiss your ass - I don't see that there's a problem with non-Dunmer using the term. Seems to me that they've just picked up some of the local lingo, that's all. The usage by non-natives may be slightly ironic too, or have originally been ironic before it got used so often that it became a standard way to greet other people who aren't natives..
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Post » Thu May 26, 2011 10:49 pm

The commoners mentions that you have an outlander accent.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:40 pm

I've noticed it, but don't mind it. I don't think it's a gameplay mechanics hiccup, and I think it was intentional, and that it works perfectly well.

Even some non-Mexicans / Spaniards have taken to using the term "gringo". If one lives long enough in a foreign country, you usually acquire that region's patois and mannerisms.

Also, the term "Outlander" among Outlanders might be considered one of fellowship... you're not from around here, we're not from around here, so we have something in common! Care to join us for a round?

No call for Dragon Breaks here. :P
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:35 am

Due to the toxic Gasses from Dagoth Ur, the main character's senses are messed up, so he sees all Dunmer as different races, and the few different races as Dunmer. :P

EDIT: Thought i should add on a serious note. I do believe the other races of Morrowind have either had a long family line living there, since their ancestors immigrated. The term outland probably means " One who is not born in the home province of Morrowind" in the context it is used. So if one was born in Morrowind, one is not an Outlander, because he/she didn't come from "out of land".
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