I just requested such an Addon on ESOUI Hope one is made!

As an add on maker I could tell you this it is complete hell to try and tie in addons when api is allowed and disallowed. They are the basic building blocks of almost every addon

It also makes them pointless, so, no. It's a na?ve request.

1. Ive not seen mods that fight for me in PvP... And Im sure not desperate...

2. Im thinking they don't need yours or my input to succeed, even if we both know add ons will be allowed.

3. I highly doubt that... Do you know what a Vic 20 is without looking it up?

4. And I hope you drop all the doom and gloom just because your not getting your way about this... Cheer up will ya?

Well 90% of all players are crappy at PvP so of course they want mods to make it easier for them. But for all the reasons you list way this should be in a mod is all the reasons way it never should be in a mod from my point of view. A thing like this has to be guaranteed to be available to every one that plays the game, or not. It's game braking other wise.

And how do you learn to know when they are low on resources and not without this mod? By experience of had played the game for allot of hours. If you are a good player you will know instinctively if he has full stamina bar or not after have played the game for a while. Sure not exactly. But this is a question if you want a dumbed down easy mode PvP environment designed for noobs or not.

You once stated knowledge is power. If that is the case, an addon that give more info than the base ui is an advantage is it not? that is the ultimate issue.

The line has been drawn,in Cyrodiil... Step a crossed the line... Come into the light children... There is peace and serenity in the light...

Have you been reading anything i have been saying whatsoever????. I stated in three posts in this thread alone it should be permanent. I dont agree with an interrupt timer BUT buffs/debuffs/cast bar of target plus resources should be put in

You didn't answer my question... And you are right. Knowledge is power. The power to know if you don't use every advantage in a fight you will lose. That there is no such thing as a fair fight... See you did learn something from me... Im impressed...

Again how did you have access to their stats to calculate this? because you would need that.. Especially in eso, Unless you are telling me just by looking you know what my stats are? what my regeneration is? you could guess a theoretical amount but that is theorycrafting.

That must have been a really big computer if you were playing Arena before I was born your room must have looked mission control in NASA lol

I don't care what mod you use, as it should be.

Them tubes warm up the place??

I agree, Vargur and really hope they do not allow this stuff.

You didn't ask a question.

Now good game design doesn't let 3rd party apps give an advantage (most other games actively ban for such). By your philosophy it's ok to use exploits too, oh wait people recieve lifetime bans from the game (and if not a life time ban typically have things stripped from them) for using such things.

Knowledge from playing the game, learning the what other classes were capable of, approximate health and resource values. Oh and also watching them in a fight, seeing how long they can last. It is an estimate, but you would be surpised at how close you can get and that was part of the skill. It was both refreshing and surprising when you can across womeone with a different build. it made it exciting as your calculations were less accurate and more prone to error. Now, why bother with any of that. I can run blindly into a fight and immediately know my opponents approximate builds without any need for previous knowledge.

Guys... Add ons are a tool. They do not fight the fight for you.

So let me ask this. I use an Orbweaver and Naga epic while playing. Is that cheating too, just because all you have is a keyboard?

Not hardly... Use the tools that help you win.

Some people find it hard especially me with glasses when it comes to animations and seeing things properly in a big fight trying to follow my target in a crowd etc And these kinds of UI's help people like me with similar issues are you saying i should be punished for this?.

Yea I did.. You didn't read again. I asked you what a Vic 20 was... Look up...

If you don't need add ons fine. Don't use them. And don't tell others not to...

And the fear mongering tactics like "lifetime ban" is a hoot... Esp when they are allowing the add ons in the 1st place... Thats ridiculous and you are really really reaching now... LOL

So your not one of the 50% he refers to that was born after 1994.

And like i said above for some it comes down to a visual thing this is large scale pvp where things can be very confusing. And the fact still remains you people are clutching at straws with this, the next fact is the majority want this type of interface preferably all of us within the game but Zeni also wanted to cater to you guys so they compromised. It was the same with first person, this game wasn't made for it and the original series fans moaned and they put it in.

So you think that the folks at Zenimax should ban the people that they have provided the tools to make the addons ........because the game was designed good enough that that addons aren't needed ? I don't understand this logic at all.

A Vic 20 was a crappy version a C64

Ultimately Zen is going to be forced to weigh in on this. No matter what they say they are going to alienate and piss off a portion of their fanbase. Because here we have people that think its cute to skirt what others are saying and wave a dismissive hand and tell people not to use it... While they totally ignore other valid points of the argument to make their position artificially stronger.

Yeah kinda since in 1994 I had 2 kids and the youngest at the time was 2 years old lol

You still aren't getting it. The devs cannot control our peripherals. They can control what is allowed in game, and good design doesn't allow addons an advantage.

LIfe is tough. I have some nerve issues that prevent me from smoothly moving my hand/arm. Never complained about such in FPS game despite the often severe issue in tracking that it caused. Never stopped me from enjoying the game.

That wasn't me you asked that to.

I will use addons because otherwise I'd be at a disadvantage with the current addons. If they were trully optional, They wouldn't give an advantage.

Why do people keep saying API improperly? Do you guys even know what an API is?

You can't just flip a switch for your api to be turned off, because you don't have API. They're tools.

Edited for typo. Oopsies.