I have read through many of these threads, and seen something that sparks my interest, mainly that of Aiming Down your Sites. Having come from a military back-round, and learning to shoot at a very young age IMO this will not be a problem for game-play. However many of you have stated that this slows down the pace of the game. As brink will primarily be CQB I don't see the downfall of not using your sites at all. From the gameplay footage that I have seen not utilizing it doesn't seem to have an overly drastic impact on wpn spread at close quarters.

- If this thread has already started I apologize. I did search for it, and came up with nil for my efforts.

Firing from the hip is more effective in BRINK than in other games. Although aiming down the sights will be more accurate. Just like in other games you won't be able to turn as fast while aiming down sites. In close quarters you will probably be able to fire from the hip exclusively. In longer ranges aiming down the sights will be a necessity.

The problem is not that ADS will not be effective but opposite, a lot of us SD fans just cringe at the thought that ADS has become a MUST if you want to kill anything at all in recent games. I'm happy that they do not follow this path, spread might not be as low as in W:ET but atleast we can kill stuff by hipfiring.

Pretty much all I wanted to say.

Fixed that.

Because why should the game force you to hip-fire in CQB?

any game that forces you to play a certain way is punishing player style

any game that forces you to play a certain way is punishing player style imo, its so prominent but thats what i believe makes games like MW through black ops so popular, they give you options so you can make a style you like

From what I have played, MW has a really high emphasis on using ADS - the only "options" it gives players is the option to use ADS, or die.

You forgot the teleport melee

And Steady Aim.

Hipfire does not have as much of a place is FPS gaming as it should. Would love to see BRINK bring it in, and balance it with ADS.

Also, the current issue with conventional ADS view models is the reduced field of vision by a large obtrusive view mode. What I've suggested is making the view model transparent, sounds out of place, but from the FPS genre, I believe this is the direction that needs to be headed in.

I really wouldn't like to see my weapon go halfway transparent while ADSing.

That being said, I see where you're coming from, but it's one of the disadvantages you have to take for the accuracy-gain.

with steady aim you dont need to ads if your using a submachine gun...besides that ADS adds imersion....ADS is part of being in that FPS perspective

actually like this idea. Maybe a cvar to turn it transparent. I really try to remove everything that blurs my vision (Typically blood spatters when being hit)

how would hip fire sniper rifles work?

...There are no snipers ingame. There's something like no-scoping. In W:ET you pretty much had to no-scope with a sniper rifle if you got caught, worked perfectly fine. It did more damage than the SMGs but had less bullets and fire rate (duh)

as far as i knew i saw 2 that were speculated to be in, in the brink weapons thread

In bfbc2 i've seen recon addicts memorize the exact point of impact from hip firing all the sniper rifles allowing them to basically use the rifle like a shotgun blast and if that didn't kill you instantly at point blank they'd switch to their pistol and start shooting.

seems pointless to have any type of battle rifle/percision rifle if a game purely emphases on hip fire because that takes the point away from sniping

NO ONE said the game PURELY emphasizes one hip fire. Hip fire simply isn't nerfed up close like every other game.

then your denying an emphasis on hip fire?

then your denying an emphasis on hip fire?

It's not going to be quick scope fest if that's what you're used to.

what im use to is a balanced take on all game aspects and not half hearted attempts with some and over emphasis on others

For those of you FPS vets, back in gold source counter-strike (original), the scout had perfect accuracy when shooting from the hip. After so many hours of playing scoutzknivez, you'd just 'feel' the direct center of the screen. Once you get it, it's nice.

Personally I don't believe in the overly inaccurate nerfing of hipfire just about all FPS games use. I'd like to see hipfire balanced properly. Funny you brought up BC2, it actually has different restrictions for hipfire based on the weapon you're using, sniper's had no restrictions, LMG's had severe nerfing, and both SMGs and ARs had a manageable and usable set up. BC2 did a good job in that regard. (Though the rest of the game is basically a beta build)