Sorry? Everything I said is entirely true. You seem to be pulling ideas from thin air.

I don't mean any offense, but you are a few years behind the times. CPUs and GPUs are being manufactured at a tiny fraction of the scale they were a few years ago. Laptops can have high-end Core i7 processors and GPUs almost as powerful as the same-generation desktop equivalents, and if the machine is designed with proper cooling in mind, it will run just fine. Sure, you will get more bang for your buck from a desktop, but there is absolutely nothing preventing you from getting a top-of-the-line gaming machine in laptop form. It will likely cost a few hundred extra dollars, nothing more, and it certainly does not cost $2000 to get the equivalent of a $800 desktop.

Annnnd you're talking about completely irrelevant technology. Please just stop it...

PC's can be annoying of course.

Some days ago I got the dreaded graphics driver crash "nvlddmkm/atikmdag stopped responding" out of [censored] no where. Turns out it was a driver conflict with a program I've used for ages, suddenly materializing itself. Uninstall that. All fine. After some hours of pain.

Actually, a lot of the advancements in the last 5 years has been in reducing the amount of electrical power needed (and thus heat generated) without sacrificing processing power. Previous generations got kinda stuck innto a clock-speed-race. where they wanted higher clock rates to get more done.. jumping from 1Ghz, to 1.5Ghz, 2Ghz, 3Ghz, and some even trying to push passed that. But we realized that going that fast actually started destablizing and melting CPUs. At that point, focus shifted toward reducing power consumption without sacrificing "raw" power. Notice that after hitting the 3Ghz mark, CPUs stopped using clock speed as a selling point. My current AMD processor actually runs at 1.8Ghz and is much cooler for it, yet it's more powerful than a P4 clocked at 3Ghz.

Advantages of building my own desktop:

I just built my first PC (see below), and learned a lot.
I spent two months researching components, and learning about how hardware works together, and things such as BIOS.
It is worth it now. If there is a problem, I can trouble shoot it easily and fix only what is needed.
It also leaves room for future upgrades.
Many people complain, but I think it can be due to being unlucky in acquiring a bad part, or rushing through the process, and not learning all about it.
Big plus as always, Mods!!!! :thumbsup:

Tip: videos on youtube, and reading reviews on websites, including tigerdirect and newegg, help.

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Just wait 'till you get slapped in the face with an obscure problem out of your hands

You can't blame the user for a developer wrong doing as in your program conflicting with the world's most used graphics driver (or vice versa).

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I will always play TES on a PC, but sure, if you'd like to stay clear of potential issues all together, and you can live with no mods, then sure, go console.

Name one of these obscure problems..?

I'm going to play on console this time around most likely but in all honesty, PC requirements for oblivion and skyrim will probably be close to the same.

Pc indeed, why you ask? I'll tell list some reasons on why you should play it on the pc. First of all you can mod which is a big thing because it adds near infinite possibilities. Secondly you have may have the ability to fix some bugs in the game with a patch or the in game console. Last but not least the graphics have the potential for being much better than on a console (depending on the video card and such), oh and since you'll be playing on a laptop it'll be portable unlike playing skyrim on a console.

But the console shouldn't be left out so here are some reasons why the console version may be a better choice. First off you don't need to install the game just pop it in and play. Secondly consoles don't really have viruses where as if your laptop gets a virus you may be unable to play skyrim, hard drives can get corrupted and so on. If you're like me you may get distracted by mods and go mad downloading and installing mods that's why i find the console version better i'm able to focus on the game it's self instead of installing mods that give you over powered weapons. And lastly it's overall cheaper playing it on a console if you ask me.

End verdict by the console version first assuming you have an xbox because you won't get distracted by mods it may be possible to transfer and convert the skyrim save file onto the pc version, i know it's possible with oblivion all you need is a usb stick and a program. After you've bought the console version and played through it a good amount i'd suggest getting the pc version.

If you have a PC with a graphics card like mine, Skyrim will be absolutely beautiful. Add mods, less crashing, unofficial patches that cover what the official ones don't, it's a better bargain.

What I meant was there are advantages of building your own versus buying pre-made. :foodndrink:
and I will add...more bang for your buck.

I'm thinking of getting it for my PC but i'm not sure how my gtx 260 will do, if i cant play smoothly on high its not worth is for me.

I would stick with 360 otherwise.

Man, I'm going to be getting a laptop for college soon, but I'm a bit of a Mac addict, and I don't think I can afford a Mac that will run Skyrim (dual booting with Windows of course) . . . on the other hand, it may be cheaper than buying my own TV to play Skyrim on in my dorm. Any advice on affordable gaming laptops? I may be willing to give up on Macs for the sake of Skrim . . .

1-Mods (better than any DLC)
2-Graphics (PC always have better graphics, if not, a modder will do it or will do yourself...)
3-Gameplay (i always prefer my mouse over any 360 or PS3 controller)
3.A-If you dont like mouse, you can use controllers
4-Resolution (a average PC monitor have more resolution than a TV)

That are my reasons of why i'm gonna buy it on PC.

Every single problem that could be wrong with Skyrim will 99.99% likely be fixed by mods. In addition, anything your little heart desires will be added by mods (including far better graphics). Mods are entirely free and entirely community based. I see no reason one could prefer the console, except for people that, for some odd reason, prefer that style of play. Other than that and money to buy said PC, there are no other real reasons to get it for the console.

Mods (including and especially total overhaul mods that greatly improve the game. IE. OOO for oblivion.)
Graphics
Controls

Then again, you got a laptop.. so maybe not. I can't stand gaming on a laptop. I mean, I can't stand gaming on a console either.. Guess I just need a large flat screen monitor (or two) on a desk with a full sized keyboard and great pair of sound canceling headphones and a really comfortable office chair..

What is with the idea that you need a top of the line computer to play games at high settings? If you don't crank up AA, and other overrated processor hog options, you can have drastically better graphics than consoles without stressing a lower end system.

For the people who said their hardware does not run as fast as it advertised... you have to look up the voltage and frequency settings that your RAM's manufacturer recommends because just changing the frequency from something like 800-1200 generally requires tweaking the power settings (unless you buy RAM that the moboard manufacturer tested and approved to work with your model).

My latest computer uses less power and generates less heat than my last computer... The 1-2 generation ago Intel and Nvidia processors were extremely inefficient power hogs.

Use HDR over AA, it'll look better anyways.

My PS3 has a cell processor. I'm not worried.

:whistling: Ummmmmmm, yep. A lovely 5 year old cell processor. Not to bash, I'm on 360, so I'm even worse off.

My previous computer refused to run Oblivion or Fallout 3 after upgrading to windows 7. Worked well in Win XP.
Yes it was a clean install, install windows, install drivers, a few programs like office, clean Oblivion and crash on start, fallout started but crashed after less than 3 minutes.

Solution was a new computer.

Well five years ago it was ahead of its time so it's not necessarily five years "old" in the normal sense.

a Cell Processor is still light years ahead of anything in our desktop computers.

True, but regardless, the current generation consoles do not exactly represent the cutting edge of technology. Do I think it will impede my enjoyment of the game? Not at all (I'm only pondering a gaming laptop so I won't have to share screen time with my roommates), but I couldn't say that these consoles are fit to handle anything you throw at them either.

This.

True, fun too :foodndrink:

Can't tell if serious....

It has begun.