So the original eight exist as planets in Mundus. What about Talos? Did he get a planet?

Nope. Talos is an amalgamated Frankenstein of a divine, neither here nor there.

Talos is Lorkhan (in a roundabout kind of way).

See the moons? That's him.

I can't help but wonder what the Aedric plane(t)s are like. We've caught glimpses of a few of the Daedric ones, but the Daedra are not limited by Convention... although we did get to see a weakened Realm in the second novel, so there is that.

Hmm. I almost thought Talos was like the Pluto of TES universe. He became a god (planet) and now the Thalmor are removing his planet status.

Actually, thinking about this a little more, I don't see why he wouldn't get a planet.

Mannimarco got a planet, after all.

So THAT's why the Dwemeri plan to become gods failed. They became a dwarf planet instead!



...Sorry. <_<

He's not an aedra, he's an ascended mortal.

And Jara, I'd chalk it up as Mannimarco's obsession with [censored] with Arkay.

But does Talos actually physically exist somewhere, like the Aedra?

Not really. Talos is a Divine, not an Aedroth. Mantle or not, he wasn't present at the dawn and hence doesn't have a permanent physical place in the Mundus.

He's a stand-in for Shezarr.

1st, Talos is a Daedra. He didn't participate in the creation of the mundus. The paternity test came back, and he is not your ancestor.



This. Unless he's a special case (because of CHIM or Lorkhan or something) he, like the other ascended mortals, should just become an asteroid / meteor / other celestial body like all the rest.

wat

to an elf the aedra are their ancestors, the god of man isn't an elvish ancestor. Daedra is non ancestor for elf, so lorkhan/shor/talos would be daedroth to the elves

He doesn't live in Oblivion either. He's an ascended mortal.

In fact, I say to everyone, unless a mer is speaking out of his/her butt, just use aedra, and daedra in the following ways
Aedra: participated in the creation of Mundus and gave a piece/whole of itself to it
Daedra: Did not participate in the creation of Mundus and lives in Oblivion
Magna-Ge: Did/did not participate in the creation of Mundus, and now lives in the the Aetherius
Other: Those who don't fit, which tends to be culture gods and ascended mortals

Talos would be under "other" and Shor/Shezarr/Lorkhan would technically be aedroth.

Edited, because Hellmouth edited.

The only thing I disagree with is the "lives in Oblivion" part of the Daedra definition. Daedra just means "not an Aedra," but I guess this is just elven butt-speak. Oh, and I also disagree with the word "gave"

Then...The Magna-Ge and the Daedra are the same then, by that logic, but they're not the same. Also, the Aldmeri definition is worth [censored]. It's nothing more than propaganda to say "this is the gods we like, and the ones we don't, so [censored] you."

Only by Altmeri reckoning.

Like I said, he's a Divine (Divus, even?). anologous but discrete Mannish concept.

Is there any detail on Tiber's ascension? I'm guessing they didn't bury him and find his body gone a few days later.

Daggerfall and The Arcturian Heresy are the best sources.

To an American, Chinese and Mexican citizens are foreigners. That doesn't mean Americans think China is the same as mexico. Daedra just means "not Aedra" in the same way foreigner means "not a citizen of my nation." There are other terms that make it clear when you're talking about different sub-groups of daedra. The Magna-Ge are Magna-Ge, and the Princes of Oblivion are Princes of Oblivion (though by now there's a whole lot of overlap anyway.)



The Aldmer came up with the words. They get to define them. Defining words you come up with isn't propaganda (though the elves do have a whole lot of that).

As Haute said, Talos is a Divine. Divines =/= Aedra. Daedra = not Aedra.

Fair enough. I just think that there's a lot of nested, semantic unpleasantry in the term Daedra. Sends up a lot of red flags for a lot of people. Remember that while Divines are the Mannish anologues to Aedra, the closest concept for Daedra is Demon.

That's what my point was getting at, save for me just not defining Talos's position as Divine, but 'other.'

Damn Windows7

If the Aedra are planets how are they also in Nirn? I thought they fully gave themselves to the creation of Mundus, or did they only give a piece of their divine self?