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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:07 pm

Make sure to wear a bulletproof jacket.
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Jade Barnes-Mackey
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:52 pm

Good luck!

Watch out for IED's and snipers!

Oh and military checkpoints. And roadblocks. And searches. Etc.

Actually, I'm fairly positive that the second you try and jog down a main road like that you will be stopped and questioned by Allied forces that are present in Kabul. Might end up missing your connecting flight....
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:04 pm

This isn't a troll thread...

I think I've come up with a better idea:
I'll stop over in Afghanistan for 3 hours on a connecting flight to Dubai, United Arab Emirates. While I'm in Afghanistan for 3 hours I'll jog down that straight road where there is a monument of an airplane, I'll take a picture of that, then maybe a jog a few 100 meters more. If I pass any newspaper stores/stands I'll purchase 1.

If you all look on Google Earth, and go to Kabul airport and look at the straight road coming from the terminal, you will see the monument.


Everything looks less deadly in Google Earth...

Well, at least if you suddenly stop visiting this forum we'll know what happened to you. What happened to Fonger? Who knows. What happened to 5c3j9r7productions? He went for a jog in Afghanistan.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:00 pm

I don't know guys. I've been able to dodge bullets while jogging. Walking on the other hand..
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:20 pm

This isn't a troll thread...

I think I've come up with a better idea:
I'll stop over in Afghanistan for 3 hours on a connecting flight to Dubai, United Arab Emirates. While I'm in Afghanistan for 3 hours I'll jog down that straight road where there is a monument of an airplane, I'll take a picture of that, then maybe a jog a few 100 meters more. If I pass any newspaper stores/stands I'll purchase 1.

If you all look on Google Earth, and go to Kabul airport and look at the straight road coming from the terminal, you will see the monument.


I don't even know where to start picking this apart.

So instead of 12hrs it is now 3 hr stop over?

Your sticking with your jogging plan. That sounds solid. :facepalm: Are you planing to jog through immigration and customs as well?

How will you purchase said newspaper? You don't speak the language or posses the currency.

Please make sure to post a link to your "photo "when you do this. Maybe we here on the beth forums can start taking up a collection for your fantasy trip. I'd love to see your goals realized.

Were else have you traveled 5c3j9r7productions? How old are you ? What do you do for a living? Please elaborate.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:23 pm

Since he has a disposable income he could hire Blackwater to form a circle of death around him in their armored vehicles as he "jogs" to the monument of an airplane.

I mean, he'd at least have a chance of success to make it to the monument. Those guys will shoot anything that breathes wrong.

First one in the thread with a Blackwater reference.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:46 am

I don't even know where to start picking this apart.

So instead of 12hrs it is now 3 hr stop over?

Your sticking with your jogging plan. That sounds solid. :facepalm: Are you planing to jog through immigration and customs as well?

How will you purchase said newspaper? You don't speak the language or posses the currency.

Please make sure to post a link to your "photo "when you
do this. Maybe we here on the beth forums can start taking up a collection for your fantasy trip. I'd love to see your goals realized.

Were else have you traveled 5c3j9r7productions? How old are you ? What do you do for a living? Please elaborate.


Unfortunately at the moment I've never left Australia. In July 2013 I'll be going to Fiji, so that will be my first international trip. After I finish school I want to travel and this is just one trip I have in mind... Along with maybe South Africa, Cape Verde, Iceland, Madagascar and Estonia.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:10 pm

Take the trip to Afghanistan last. Would be best for your health.

Also, beware of the volcanoes in Iceland. Exo knows all about them.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:32 pm

I suggest you contact or look up the advice from the Australian embassy - they have up to date information on tourist travel to any given destination. I am pretty sure it would not be advised and I am also sure that members of a gaming forum will not be able to give you that advice. (Except possibly Old Andy).

In this case it would be DFAT (The {Australian Government} Department for Foriegn Affairs and Trade)
http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/afghanistan/index.html


We strongly advise you not to travel to Afghanistan because of the extremely dangerous security situation and the very high threat of terrorist attack.

If you are in Afghanistan, you should consider leaving. Australians who decide to remain in Afghanistan should ensure that they have personal security measures in place. You should monitor local information sources for details about the safety and security environment.

Due to the increased threat of attack expected following the Taliban's announcement it will begin a spring offensive on 1 May, Australian officials in Kabul will be taking additional security measures and limiting movement in the city in the coming days.

All major hotels in Kabul continue to be attractive targets for terrorists. Credible reporting indicates there are renewed and ongoing terrorist threats to the Serena and Intercontinental Hotels. Australians are strongly advised to continue to avoid the Serena and Intercontinental Hotels and their surrounds at this time.

Militants continue to plan and carry out attacks in major cities.

Serious terrorist incidents, including suicide bombings and other bomb attacks, occur regularly in Afghanistan, including in Kabul and Kandahar.

We continue to receive a stream of reporting indicating that terrorists are planning attacks against a range of targets, including places frequented by foreigners, airports, hotels, guesthouses, media centres, military installations and Afghan government buildings. Recent reporting suggests diplomatic premises and convoys may be particular targets. For further details see the Terrorism section below.

Due to the dangerous security situation in the provinces surrounding Kabul, you should only travel in secure transport, using reputable local drivers and guides. Australian officials use heightened security measures when travelling. You should consider dedicated armed protection, though even these precautions cannot guarantee personal safety.

There is a continuing high threat of kidnapping against Westerners, including journalists and those working for non-government organisations (NGOs) and international organisations.

Unexploded landmines and other ordnance remain a danger throughout Afghanistan.

The provision of consular services to Australians in Afghanistan may be severely restricted due to the safety and security environment. Consular assistance should be arranged through the 24-hour Consular Emergency Centre, which can be contacted on +61 2 6261 3305. See Where to Get Help for further information.

Because of the dangerous security situation, we strongly recommend that you register your travel and contact details with us so we can contact you in an emergency.


I think that sums it up. Do not go, and if you're already there get out, and get a bodyguard. You cannot expect the Embassy to help you if/when you get in trouble. As an obvious foriegner you're walking around with a target painted on your back.

Theres more information on travel to afganistan, as well as a briefing on just about any other country you may wish to visit at the above link.

As a postcript here's what they say about Afganistan's airlines:

Airline Safety
Due to safety concerns, Australian officials minimise travel on domestic and international services provided by Ariana Airlines. Australian officials also avoid international travel with Kam Air where possible. All Afghan airlines were banned from flying in EU airspace in 2010 due to safety concerns.

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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:32 am

Take the trip to Afghanistan last. Would be best for your health.

Best for his health would be to not go at all.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:08 pm

Unfortunately at the moment I've never left Australia. In July 2013 I'll be going to Fiji, so that will be my first international trip. After I finish school I want to travel and this is just one trip I have in mind... Along with maybe South Africa, Cape Verde, Iceland, Madagascar and Estonia.


And you'd thought you'd drop by for the adventure of it.



If you're serious about this, and I highly doubt you are, the way to do this is through human rights organizations and other non profits that provide things like health services and such. Journalist embed with military. You need a fixer to navigate your way through the city and culture.

I could understand more if you had a more concrete form of motivation for going. For example, working for some non profits as I mentioned.

So you're willing to pay an insane amount of money to set foot in Afghanistan? If that is true will you pay for me to go too? I'll take the photos all you have to do is jog :)

I don't get how you have all that money to burn.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:58 pm

In this case it would be DFAT (The {Australian Government} Department for Foriegn Affairs and Trade)
http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/afghanistan/index.html

I think that sums it up. Do not go, and if you're already there get out, and get a bodyguard. You cannot expect the Embassy to help you if/when you get in trouble. As an
obvious foriegner you're walking around with a target painted on your back.

Theres more information on travel to afganistan, as well as a briefing on just about any other country you may wish to
visit at the above link.

As a postcript here's what they say about Afganistan's airlines:


Ok, so maybe it's not a good idea to go know, but who knows in 3 years it could be sorted.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:03 pm

And you'd thought you'd drop by for the adventure of it.



If you're serious about this, and I highly doubt you are, the way to do this is through human rights organizations and other non profits that provide things like health services
and such. Journalist embed with military. You need a fixer to navigate your way through the city and culture.

I could understand more if you had a more concrete form of motivation for going. For example, working for some non profits as I mentioned.

So you're willing to pay an insane amount of money to set foot in Afghanistan? If that is true will you pay for me to go too? I'll take the photos all you have to do is jog :)

I don't get how you have all that money to burn.


Well actually I looked at ticket prices and the cheapest one was only $1500. But of course, if I'm going to pay that
much I want to have a connecting flight to somewhere worth the money, Dubai.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:40 pm

To the OP, I haven't been there, but I'd sincerely hope you think about the effects of your actions upon others if your plans go wrong.

1) How could your death or kidnapping or other affect your family?
2) If you get kidnapped, how does that affect your family and those who would then need to fidn you? Including risking a life to find you?
3) Ther are still 2 of 3 hikers in Iran who thought hiking in a warzone was safe as well :shrug:

Just trying to point out that one's actions has consequences upon other people....

Not to mention that if military guys can do anything for him, there's a fair chance they will, which gives them an extra serving of danger for the day (ever played a game/level where you have to escort someone, or save a hostage? Ever gotten through one without at least once losing the thing you're supposed to protect, or getting killed yourself?).

*Most likely to happen if they stumble on an attempted kidnapping or whatever, since if they know the details there's a pretty good chance they'll say, "[censored] idiot tourist." and leave 'im to his fate :hehe:.

I think it's funny that it's being assumed the OP is "very young" or "in his mid teens".

I think I was the first person to bring that up, and I know from a previous thread or two that he's around 14, 15 years old :).
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:28 pm

You'd be correct.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:46 am

This isn't a troll thread...

I think I've come up with a better idea:
I'll stop over in Afghanistan for 3 hours on a connecting flight to Dubai, United Arab Emirates. While I'm in Afghanistan for 3 hours I'll jog down that straight road where there is a monument of an airplane, I'll take a picture of that, then maybe a jog a few 100 meters more. If I pass any newspaper stores/stands I'll purchase 1.


You can't "jog" in the oppressive dusty heat of a middle eastern desert, certainly not for that distance, unless you're an accomplished athelete.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:52 pm

I think I was the first person to bring that up, and I know from a previous thread or two that he's around 14, 15 years old :).

Which is why I put the part about the not knowing how families are in Australia. On the net you never know, so I hedged my bet.

And I still say it's a bad idea. Mercs vacation in war torn countries. Kids vacation at Disney World, or whatever theme park currently resides in your country.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:26 pm

]or whatever theme park currently resides in your country.

At Her Majesty's pleasure.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:07 pm

You can't "jog" in the oppressive dusty heat of a middle eastern desert, certainly not for that distance, unless you're an accomplished athelete.

Unless one does it at night, but that brings up a new set of problems unrelated to meteorology.

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Which is why I put the part about the not knowing how families are in Australia. On the net you never know, so I hedged my bet.

I don't imagine 5c3j9r7 has brought this up at the dinner table, as I imagine he would have received a similar reaction. Not all of us Australians jump into pits of deadly animals in our free time :P.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:52 pm

Unless one does it at night, but that brings up a new set of problems unrelated to meteorology.

Then he'll get run over in the dark. People in those countries tend to think of the distinction between pedestrian and vehicular spaces as a somewhat nebulous concept.

Actually, from my time in Europe, the pavement seems to be a distinctly anglo-saxon concept.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:41 am

Unless one does it at night, but that brings up a new set of problems unrelated to meteorology.

Then you ask any nearby merchants if they have a potion of Night-Eye. What's so difficult about that?

Then he can run for 5 miles in desert heat without breaking a sweat just like Matt Damon in Bourne Sahara.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:52 pm

Unless one does it at night, but that brings up a new set of problems unrelated to meteorology.


Or you're being shot at.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:44 am

Remember to jog in zigzags! :wave:

An oldie but a goodie from The In-Laws: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1WxSITwWw (he even goes back to do it right! :rofl:
Longer clip includign the set-up: happily getting off the plane, then getting shot at...kind of like the OP? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_w-QCWpS0&feature=related

On topic:
Well not much to add other than the US Dept of State on AFG:
http://kabul.usembassy.gov/warden_notices.html
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5369.html which gives us this:
Kabul is also considered at high risk for militant attacks, including rocket attacks, vehicle borne IEDs, and suicide bombings. Five United Nations (UN) workers were killed during an attack on a UN guesthouse in Kabul in October 2009. More than 20 attacks were reported in Kabul over the past year, although many additional attacks were thwarted by Afghan and coalition forces. Recent incidents include the bombing of a Kabul supermarket popular with Westerners and an attack on the Kabul City Center complex, which includes a hotel frequented by foreign visitors. Insurgents have also targeted the offices, convoys, and individual implementing partners of the U.S. Agency for International Development.

Three yars isn't going to make a difference :nope:
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:57 pm

I would say "beware of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4d0VYzL_X8" but they're pretty small time next to the huntsmans we get.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:08 am

I would say "beware of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4d0VYzL_X8" but they're pretty small time next to the huntsmans we get.


Haha, yeah, I was just reading about camel spiders the other day. I am a massive arachnophobe.
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