Hello everyone! im new to the forum, but not so new to the game.
i have being playing Fallout series for a while. the last fallout (3) was one of the greatests games in my opinion, i spend hundreds and hundreds of hours on it, and it brings me so many memories. nowdays i dont have that game anymore , i had it with my last xbox that broken 3-2 years ago. now i get a new xbox, im so excited about playing Fallout New Vegas which was a huge long time waiting and i finally will be able to play it next week.

I bought the game online and im waiting for deliver, but soon as i get anxious about playing i discovered that this game has thousands of glitches as some people said
now im pretty much worried about it. people say that it freezes aloooot of times and my biggest worries it is about the game freezes. i hate when it happens because i like to take sometime with myself to play videogames for some hours when i can, and game freezes really can be frustrating. now im scared if i made up a good choice buying it. not because of the game content, i love fallout. but im really afraid that it will freeze everytime as the people said. c′mon when u playing deep for a long time if the game freezes once it is ok. if it freezes twice it might not be a big deal, but as far as i am reading here on internet it will freeze everytime

do im overreacting or to much worried about it? this is my first question for the Fallout new vegas community about anything
i just would love to play this game without getting to worried about this

I've been gaming New Vegas on a PC for like.... a year now and never encountered any of those problems people mentioned. Even with a heavily-modded game.

Not sure about XboX360 though, but I remember many people complaining about the PS3 version, maybe someone else can help you with that? *shrugs*

yea man i wish my pc could run fallout but it dont. so i can only play on Xbox 360
as far i know the PC versions always will have anykind of solution and problems like theses are not the question for PC gamers they have a whole "own" community that makes mods and fixes etc. sadly we from console can only depends on Bethesda which is a great studio but for the time that has passed i feels like this game is "forgotten" by bethesda and nothing else will come for it ( at least on consoles)

I havent researched this AT ALL but....

I heard about New Vegas: Ultimate Edition coming out soon?

Sell the copy you ordered online and buy this one, if you're that worried. I was so disappointed with how buggy/glitchy skyrim was, that i wont play it again until a better update comes out. It scared me off completely. So I understand your worries about New Vegas. I'm also playing NV for first time this month, and I'm constantly falling inside of mountains, and walking through glitched walls, and dying because of depth perception bugs...

You and I are pretty much in the same boat Lisanty. Your first experience of New Vegas needs to be as perfect as your Fallout 3 experience was. I would think it's worth the wait for this:

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/19/fallout-new-vegas-ultimate-edition-reminds-you-what-a-great-dea/

Though it does piss me off that I see time and time again that I am an idiot for giving them(Bethesda) my hard earned cash up front.. when they NEVER get their games QA'd until YEARRRRSSSSSSS after the game comes out. And they make sure to sell the same game 4 different times to milk as much as possible for a game that is only "acceptable" in its 4th release....

Ok, I'mma make a very bold statement here, but I fully believe it:

The claims that New Vegas is buggy as all hell are baseless and ridiculous.

That's not to say it didn't once HAVE bugs or that there aren't still bugs. Let me go ahead and name the three big bugs you'll encounter that still exist:

1) A perk called Rapid Reload somehow manages to make lever-action rifles and/or guns you load one bullet at a time jam in VATS. If you use one of these rifles, reload, then try to enter VATS, you may find your character standing there doing nothing, because the gun has somehow jammed. This can be avoided by NOT going into VATS after reloading such a gun (it's very easy to tell if you have the glitch on you; if you try to fire your first bullet in free-range shooting (firing a single shot before entering VATS also fixes it), your character will randomly be tossed two small steps left/right/forwards/backwards, THEN it's fixed) or by making sure to reload while crouching. For some reason this glitch won't occur if you reload while crouching. EDIT: Just thought I'd add this doesn't CRASH you if you encounter it, your character just has to survive ~20 seconds of slo-mo while standing there like a useless [censored].

2) The Gomorrah casino. Don't take companions into it, this casino sometimes permanently confiscates their weapons for some reason. No worries though, because the Gomorrah is -literally- across the street from a building where you can dismiss your companions to and then pick them back up afterwards.

3) Raul, a companion, has an unmarked sidequest that requires you talk to three NPCs. One of these NPCs is Loyal of the Boomers. You'll probably do a quest for the Boomers called "Volare!" and upon completion, a plane appears in their hangar. The way Obsidian chose to make this plane appear is by simply replacing the hangar itself with a new copy that otherwise looks and acts exactly the same. The problem is, if Loyal is IN the old hangar when it gets replaced from the new Hangar, he gets cut off from the game world entirely, unable to exit the old hangar. (and you can't enter it). To avoid this, simply make sure that you turn in "Volare!" for completion at night, when he's in his house. That way, the hangar will NOT reset with him in it.


So there, those are the three major bugs that sadly still exist. Each one has a workaround though, as you can see.
Last but not least, as with Skyrim, do NOT play this game on the PS3. This isn't a New Vegas specific problem, but a Bethesda game one in general. The way their games are designed seems to conflict with the PS3, so it's very dicey to play it on a PS3.

Now back to my original statement, the claims that New Vegas is buggy as hell are baseless and unfounded. This game is no more buggy than any other Bethesda game. I honestly have no clue WHY FO3 can have a DLC that didn't flippin' work and had to be re-released and that's "a-ok" for reviewers and fans alike, but New Vegas can release Honest Hearts and the reviews say "it's very buggy" when wtf I can't find a single damn bug in the entire DLC.

In other words, don't worry. I know the reviews make it look bad, but as someone who plays this game everyday, all I can do is read the reviews with a puzzled expression when they say this game is bugged to hell.

This.

The only problems I've had are due to my xbox being a bag of crap, nothing has actually happened with my game.

Longknife has pointed out some of the main ones to avoid regarding plot and location issues, there are a few more, maybe check the Wiki for the full list.
Quest lines staying in open in your pip boy can occur, I seem to have most issues with the ones involving Cass.

The biggest bug bear for me though, are the game freezes that happen. They can be infuriating if you haven't saved in a while.
Running quickly between game cells with companions and the 'roulette wheel' freezing on the new area loading screen after opening a door happen every couple of hours play it seems. ( I'm on Xbox )

I try to remember to save if I am entering an unexplored building as often as I can, as well as if I have been wandering around the desert for a few days exploring.
Still forget and have to re-do a whole level more than I would like though.

It's such a fantastic game though that I forgive all it's faults, complex and ambiguous plots can get confused easily. It's a price worth paying.

Yeah there ARE other bugs possible of course (some people complain about Veronica? Never had a bug with her), but to me and from my experience and from what I've seen as complaints here on the forum, those are the three that are definitely going to happen for EVERYONE, whereas the others are all iffy; you might get them, you might not; they might be an issue caused by the user's Xbox or PC itself. My main beef is that reviewers make it sound like this game is still unplayable, when wtf this is more than playable.

The freezes would be an issue I'm unfamiliar with. I'm on PC and while the game crashes to desktop ocassionally, EVERY Bethesda game does this (since Oblivion), so I've grown accustomed to hitting F5 to quicksave every 2 minutes when traveling long distances out in the open. Don't suppose X-Box has a quicksave button? If it does, get to know it. If not, maybe make it a habit of stopping to enter buildings along the way, just to activate the autosave.

it's a very complex .... very very complex , it can not NOT have bugs , but they aren't a problem , the game is too amazing to NOT play it because it freezez sometimes , i'd rather have this over most games i played that are just .... simple
and it also has a good replay -ability , it can be played from 4 points of view , all well structured and affecting choices

FONV was VERY rich wit bugs and glitches when I first got it. Anyone claiming that FNV is NOT buggy as hell is just being nice really.

For the first three weeks after I got FNV, I couldn't get the damn thing to launch. It would CTD right away. When I did get it to run it would CTD soon after.

The version everyone is playing now is the one that was patched- with varying success- after the initial avalanche of complaints. Most of the particularly disastrous bugs are gone now and the game is reasonably stable, but there's still plenty of bugs- including brand new ones introduced by the patches themselves.

(Yes, I'm talking about the Endless Loading Screen of Doom.)

If it's unplayably buggy, then I don't know how I managed to amass 856 glorious hours of time played, in it. Oh, the suffering!

One thing you have to take into account, is that nothing ever seems to disappear on the internet. Articles, reviews and random babble from a bazillion different sources, often of extremely questionable reliability, subjectivity, and honesty, continue to infest the internet long after they are no longer relevant. Unfortunately, when you google/surf for information on any given subject, much of what you find SHOULD be stamped with a big red notice in bold letters saying "OUT OF DATE. NO LONGER RELEVANT." But of course it isn't, so it's easy to be fooled if you believe everything you read out there. The majority of the poor reviews and terrible things said about this game were written and posted back during the first couple of months it was out, when there were a lot of bugs, and the game often was pretty close to unplayable, for a lot of people. I gave up on it after a few weeks mayself, when I first bought it. But, i came back six months later, and it was quite playable, patches had fixed the most egregious general game-breaking bugs, and I was happy with it. Since then, successive patches have fixed many more, and the few remaining ones are of no real consequence, when it comes to being able to play and enjoy the game.

That's my two-bits worth. If you don't play it, you're cheating yourself out of one of the best games you'll ever have the opportunity to play. If you like yourself and want yourself to be happy, get it.

yea man, i heard of it, but for now at least, with the game coming i will try to play it, i really hope it doesnt freezes as much people say because would be a even worse experience to have a DLC′s but cannot have a good game experience because of the freezes




im used to theses kind of glitches, too. but they dont bothers me....im very worried because i play on Xbox 360, and btw i just look over here in the forum on here > http://www.gamesas.com/forum/113-fallout-new-vegas-xbox-360-issues/

take a look at this and see how many people complaining about it
and it just keep getting worse...its not about the reviews or something like this, i dont mind other glitches. but something that Really bothers me is the sensation of playing a unstable game, in this case , a game that WILL freeze 100% sure from time to time. i never had any problems like this with Oblivion or Fallout3.
sometimes like sundays or free days when i have alot o free time i would love to play this game for more than 6 hours as i used to do with Oblivion or Fallout3
but it would be a terrible experience for me if it freezes all the time, i dont like freezes, i think at least in my opinion that a unstable game that freezes every 1 hour ( or what ever the time that it freezes) would be Really unconfortable and i would not enjoy.
like was said before and u know
PC gamers use to dont have this kind of problem as the console ones in this game at least, and seems like (even from what people said here) that the Xbox have most problems with freezes



can you please tell me how often it freezes?i mean.... it can take hours since you turn on the console and the game freezes? how many hours? 1, 2, 3,?
im also on Xbox :/

i hope i can enjoy it man, really.. i really miss the whole fallout atmosphere again . i remember when i saw the trailer of this game before coming out, it looks awesome, i knew that would be alot of people saying that the graphs was outdated and possibly it would have bugs like fallout, because everything in this game remember me fallout, was clear that was the same engine that i was used to, and i like it alot. i saw all those big "reviews", saying same thing almost about it.... "outdated"...."glitchy and buggy" etc...but i dont mind other bugs, like i said , i am used to them by other bethesda games. but i like to play theses games alot when i can, and i hate freezes...and a gaming that freezes alot i dont know how much it would be "enjoyable"...probably wont....i remember that my "paranoia" about save the game all the time on fallout 3 was mostly when i feel like i was in a dangerous place, or when i was at some mission...or before a big decision. but i would hate to save the game, every 5 minutes then the game freezes, i would have to reset the console again, wait and reload everything .continue and repeat this forever...thats my "nightmare" about what i see people saying about it

But my point is that...

Was the initial release buggy? Yes and no. Personally, I did run into bugs, but they weren't game breaking and a simple reload often fixed the problems. (and usually the problems were tied to loading the last cell, so it's not like you had to reload something from ages ago) The first patch came quick, too.

Is the game any more buggy than a typical Bethesda title? NOT. AT. ALL. And yet for some reason the review articles talk as if this is an absolute abomination and it's amazing how terrible Obsidian's programmers are when compared to the stellar stability and support provided by Bethesda. What the [censored] kind of bizarro world are these reviewers living in?

That's what puzzles me. Maybe compared to another company, this game would be seen as "buggy," but this is par for the course for a Bethesda title and yet people act like New Vegas is the first time there was ever a buggy Bethesda game ever. Cause yknow, the Pitt totally worked upon initial release, FO3 works WONDERFULLY with Windows 7, the Vampire cure quest was never bugged to the point of being incompleteable and the Companions of Skyrim don't have a potential glitch that could ruin your ability to use followers for the rest of the game. But Fallout New Vegas has a Casino you should remember not to bring companions into (across the street from a place you can dismiss your companions to) and holy [censored] [censored], let's flip over all the tables and storm the castle; this is an outrage!

Listen Lisanty, I'm playing FO3 now and every 10-20h it does a freeze on me. Doesn't bother me cos the game is amazing.

I'm on xbox too, if you say you never had any freezes on FO3 kind of suggests your xbox is in a much better state than mine.
Ok I logged 160h on my NV playthrough and maybe had 4-5 freezes max. My biggest gripe was the loading times after you've explored most the map, they became ridiculous. By going back to dashboard and back into game made
It a lot better.
But listen like someone already said, it's going to happen with these games. And as Longknife says the major ones you can work around them. Just be prepared to have an amazing experience. You've made a brilliant purchase and look forward to hear what your thought are on the game

The "Big 3" Bugs referenced above, I have not encountered at all xD... lucky I guess. Only issues I've encountered are (I'll be more specific this time)

Clipping issues:

I'll be walking through the wasteland(as i have only fast traveled twice so far), and I will randomly fall inside of a mountain (most commonly in heavy-combat, and I get pushed through the mountain-walls). 5 times this has happened since I began playing 2 weeks ago. Forgivable, but worth looking out for!

Depth-Perception Physics:

Grenades/dynamite bouncing off invisible walls when thrown in combat). Happens enough that I don't even bother using this weapon type anymore.

Here to add a few tips.

I believe you said your playing on the X360?
If so, these few things help me alot.

1: obviously make sure you LIVE account is connected, so you can install the updates which are given upon starting the game.

2: Make sure you don't have a gagillion needless save files, keep necessary/important ones. Always "clean" up any unused/needless files after you done playing for the day.

3: Be careful with VATS. This is where I get the worst bugs. If you try to reload and are pressing the vats button, you may freeze your game.

4: ALWAYS save 2 times when your done playing. More than once I've tried to load my latest save only to be greeted with Corrupt File.

Really, bugs aren't as big of an issue as their made out to be. Play it, love it.... Enjoy.

It weird how it's different for everyone, I never had a problem with VATS and never had a corrupt save file, not once.

Play more.

You are a VERY lucky man.

I did play 160h. Just doing a playthrough on FO3 and I'll be back to NV in a few months.

if you play fallout 3 then you should be fine......new vegas didnt have any more bugs than fallout 3 had for me.....and most of those are fixed now....just make sure to save often.....just in case.

My PS3 bersion has frozen maybe 14 times, I got this game a few days after release too, so it's not as bad as people say it is.

Got it on release and it has been fairly good performance wise it does freeze now and then but its bareable

It was pretty bad on release but almost all of the issues have been fixed (excluding the not-that-frequent crashes and similar gamebryo-silliness).