What is it with Bethesda and buggy games? I've never seen anything like it. I mean, Crytek was pretty bad with Crysis 1, but they were still a young company and got the game working well enough by the time their first expansion pack came out. What's Bethesda's excuse? New Vegas was supposed to be a refined FO3. But what did get? Amazingly, a game that was even more buggy and glitchy then it's predecessor. I'm sorry, but that has to be some sort of record for the history books. To actually do worse with the same software then what you did before. Here we are, 9 month, 5 patches, and 3 DLC's later and the game is only marginally less buggy then it was when it debuted. I started a brand new game when I downloaded OWB. Erased all my previous save files, cleared the cache, reinstalled the latest patch. I'm now 30 hours into the new game and guess what? Same game shattering bugs are still happening.

- Frequent game lockups
- Corrupted autosave files (that's another gaming history first, especially for consoles)
- Random missing textures
- Slow loadtimes
- Extreme and random drops in frame rate (whether in combat or just sitting still starring at a rock in the mojave)
- Objects that randomly clip or fly off into oblivion for no reason
- Loss of speech options (especially the loss of carvan)
- Frequent screen lockups when purchasing goods in bulk (ammo, etc.)
- plus many other annoying bugs and glitches

So....what is it? What's the excuse? Bethesda......your whole business revolves around making games. You don't make coffee pots or power tools or office supplies.....YOU MAKE GAMES! How can you possible be content with a product this poorly made?

I guess the jokes on me though. Seeing as how I paid full retail price for the game on its launch date. Then I paid full price for all of the DLC up to this point. Heck, I didn't even compalin about the bugs at first. I know how the development process works. Told myself, "ah, they missed something here, but they'll fix it soon". Then I waited for the patches. Patch number one didn't fix a single thing as far as I could tell. Infact, only the latest patch seems to have fixed something. Only took 9 months. I guess the game crashes less often now. I mean, 30 hours in, I've only had 17 crashes and I can still play carvan with No-bark. Lost the caravan option with everyone else. I guess that's better then 1 crash every hour though. I usually consider myself forgiving and patient......but this is ridiculous. If Bethesda was in the business of making powertools instead of software, they would recieve new lawsuits everyday because their power tools would blowup and electricute the people that bought them.

No, this BS has to end. I was going to buy Lonesome Road when it came out. I think I skip that. Of course, we have Skyrim coming out this fall too. Think I'll skip that one as well. Sure, Skyrim looks good so far.....but so did New Vegas and we all know how that turned out. Yep, I'm not a big fan of the Modern Warfare series, but at least Activision can make a game that doesn't crash every hour and I won't have to wait and hope that a future patch can make my game function correctly.

It's sad that its come to this. But money talks and my money says "don't waste me on BS"

You're barking up the wrong tree. Bethesda didn't make NV, they just published it. Your argument ( which I otherwise agree with ) is with Obsidian entertainment.

I have none of these problems and run tons of high end mods, its the machine or a faulty game copy, not the game itself.

You are a fortunate soul.
I have a decent computer myself but me (and many of my friends) do run into problems with crashes. I have gotten used to it. Its really not that game breaking :X

I run it on my old P4 AGP based system on medium and all the sliders turned all the way up and on my Gateway M285-E tablet with tons of mods and i never have any problems either YAY FOR US :biggrin: so its the machine or the game copy how long has it been since you reformated? Drivers? All the same old mumbo jumbo your always asked when people make these kinds of posts :spotted owl:

I agree Mako here :confused:

Oblivion has been out since 2006 and its still buggy as hell.

Fallout 3 has been out since 2008 and its still buggy as hell.

Its weird how people seem to "forget" those games are buggy, but they wont shut up about how New Vegas has some bugs.

It's Bethesda [censored]. And I'm having little to none of your problems and i am using the same disc i had when i bought it the day it released. If it's such a problem don't play....problem solved, go play Halo or something. :facepalm:

I use xbox and all these problems are far gone the only thing I experience is infinite load screens at the main menu after the latest DLC download

While I'd normally agree with this, Bethesda did provide the engine. That wouldn't normally mean anything, but since the other games using this engine suffer from the same kinds of issues, there is a pretty good case for claiming it's an engine issue.

Obsidian do seem to make fairly buggy games, but they also tend to make complex RPGs which are more prone to bugs. And they normally have to use other people's engines.
It's worth noting that the first game they've made in their own engine is pretty bug free. It might be that DSIII is a simple RPG or it could just be the first in their own engine.

Yeah its buggy because the engine svcks and the creators have no prior experience with an already complex and twitchy engine that even the guys that have been using it for years can't even get it right. That is the reason that gamesas has made some major adjustments to it for Skyrim.

Also the removal of the caravan option was done after a few patches to balance the game. Now you can only play caravan with each person like 5 times or something. Not sure about the number but it was capped intentionally.