Yeah, Vvardenfell is pretty much a volcano in itself, the Red Mountain being only the tip of it. Actually, the Red Mountain was initially called Vvardenfell, then the whole island took the name [big assumption]when Vivec exasperated Vvardenfell from Mainland Morrowind (I'm not sure about that, I can't remember where I read that Vivec separated both lands)[/big assumption]. And if you look at the Molag Amur region, it has lava pools and rivers. I suppose this is actually as if you would cut your skin down to your veins, it may very well be magma from inside the supervolcano. And if you look where the region is located on the map, it's pretty close to one of the shores. Though since the Red Mountain has already erupted once before that, I'm quite surprised the whole island isn't ashlands or region like Molag Amur and it actually formed the foyadas. Maybe it's just because it was not totally "full".

Vvardenfel was created as the result of Auriel shooting Shor's heart into Nirn at the very end of the creation of the world. In other words, Red Tower (Red Mountain) was created way before the Chimer even set foot in Morrowind. Also, I don't believe Vivec separated Red Mountain from the mainland, but I'll need to reread my history some time.

That was kinda the point of my post. What I'm saying is there is a lot nobody knows, whether they have the book or not, and not having the book doesn't mean you're not allowed to speculate.


Hmm, that does seem odd the eruption would be so much more violent this time around, maybe the MoT crash just made the eruption worse.

Yes, no one's dennying that. How'd the island get there?
So Auriel fastened the [Heart] to an arrow and let it fly long into the sea, where no aspect of the new world may ever find it.

It was a walking star, which burnt the armies of the Triune and destroyed the heartland of Veloth, creating the Inner Sea.

Excavation has shown that, even before the major eruption which created the Vvardenfell we know today, the northern highlands were a region of constant volcanic and geologic activity. Morrowind has always lived in the shadow of the ash drifting across it in the prevailing northerlies.

So one myth versus one myth versus a myth that dosn't know it's a myth. I don't know, and that's the moral of the story.

No. Cyrodiil is bigger in game than Vvardenfell, but MUCH smaller than Morrowind. :batman: (I've been trying to find a use for that)

Meh, I'll say that Vvardenfel wasn't an island till Auriel shot Shor's heart there. Simple enough :shrug:

I though it became an island in the eruption that brought about Sun's Death, around the start of the War of the First Council.

The reason for this are retcons in the Morrowind game. Originally, the game Morrowind was supposed to contain the whole province of Morrowind (see http://www.imperial-library.info/maps/concept_morrowind.jpg), but this proved to be too ambitious. Up to then, Vvardenfell the island and Red Mountain were one and the same. You can see Red Mountain from the city Firewatch on the eastern mainland (see http://images.uesp.net//b/be/AR_Place_Fort_Firewatch.jpg). Then the rest of Morrowind was cut, but the island still looked very fiery with the foyadas being streams of lava (see http://www.imperial-library.info/maps/vvardenfell_map.jpg). I guess the devs found this to be too boring, so they moved cities and environments over from the mainland to the island.

This won't answer the question whether all of Vvardenfell represents the volcano, but I still like to think so and attribute the relatively flat appearance in the game to game engine limitations.

I don't want to hijack this thread but just a question on this topic, do you think that the Telvanni islands in the north east with the city of Port Telvannis would have been destroyed? I can't imagine the Argonians would have reached it, and if it was not destroyed by tidal waves and ash then i can see it becoming something of a safe-haven for the Telvanni masters who were capable of teleportation, such as Aryon, Fyr, Baladas possibly?

Or maybe im just so attached to Morrowind, its lore and characters that i am desperately making excuses for their possible survival?

Depending on the prevailing winds in the TES world, It may have had it's skies clouded with ash. That would hurt agriculture, but I don't know if farming is a big Telvanni industry.

I don't think it is, I think their industry mostly revolves around egg mining. And in addition, I believe the prevailing winds are south. So at least in my opinion, the Telvanni Isles would be very much intact.

Ya; I think most Telvanni could have survived. They only had to deal with Tsunami's.

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but if you are:

I can't really imagine that other than the cities right on the coast would be destroyed. Most of the Isles are Highlands as you get inland. That and I imagine the mushroom towers to be pretty deeply rooted and resistant to tsunamis.

They'd have to be. You don't build on land with extreme volcanic/tectonic activity without thinking ahead in regards to this sort of thing.

Unless you're building in the real world.

i think nerevarine plant to went to akavir, leaving vvardenfel to vivec. the citizens of vvardenfel loost faith in vivec, so MoT crashed. the armies of vvardenfell holt of the legions of argonia, untill the crash. the surviving dunmer flet to solsteim. vivec disapeard in the oblivioncrisis ( or something like that ) and civil wars are tearing morrowind apart. all nereverines plan; no more empire, no more helseth, no more corrupt tripunal and the ladder for resdayn was set
i think, after that ( fanfic warning ) the nerevarine rejoin the surviving dunmer in solsteim, make an army with the nords and orcs and take back morrowind. ( of course, name it resdayn ) and it wouldn't be a profince again.

thats how i think of it

sorry for my bad Englisch ;P

Right, thanks.

Being that some of TES lore is left up to the players imagination, i would like to think that somehow my faviroute Telvanni characters escaped there and hid out as the crisis unfolded. I guess the next book will reveal more about the aftermath of the devastation.

That's what I like to think. The Telvanni are pretty powerful people. Would take a lot to kill one.

Just my $0.02 on the discussion in this thread earlier.
I don't believe that the MoT crashed because people stopped loving Vivec. I think that whole love thing is a lie. If you read the 33rd sermon, Vivec stopped the rock using his divine powers before Nerevar bit it. It's an obvious lie, and the MoT crashed because Vivec lost his divinity, no?

It was still floating for years after Vivec left and before the ingenium was operational.

Wait...

:banghead:


What?

love wasn't a lie. :chaos:

I wonder if the fact that the Ingenium was powered by souls sealed the fate of the Ministry. Trying to keep the moon aloft through necromancy can be seen as wrong and unnatural.

The dunmer are usually OK with using their souls and corpses for greater good or the good of their family (see the guardian spirits and ghostfences).

That's true, but if I remember right, the Ingenium's victims were involuntary. It's been a while since I read the book, but maybe someone else can confirm.

It's stated at one point they were executing dozens of prisoners, until they found out that certain people had greater souls. It's never outright stated if Ilzheven (Sul's lover) was voluntary or forced- all we really know was that Sul barged in, tried to cut her free, damaged the Ingenium and as a result destroyed Morrowind accidentally.