After Red Mountain

Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:28 am

The above map has the problem representing the size of Red Mountain.

Red Mountain isn't a run-of-the-mill, ordinary volcano like Mount St. Helen. It's a divinely-created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano. Pretty much, the entire island of Vvardenfell is Red Mountain, just as the Hawaiian Islands are parts of Volcanos, as was stated earlier.

And this eruption wasn't the mere result of tons of pressure building up inside the volcano and releasing naturally. This is a sudden eruption. To represent, The Infernal City represents that being "well over Morrowind" (take from that what you will) is ashen wasteland as far as the eye can see.

We don't know how much of the Inner Sea is boiling (IMO, the term "Scathing Bay" implies that only the water within that bay is heated, as otherwise it'd be the "Scathing Sea")

They don't refer to the "smoking shatterlands that once were Vvardenfell". They refer to the "smoking shatterlands that once were Morrowind", indicating that the majority of the province was wrecked.

I drew a map a long time ago that detailed my theory, and here it is: http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/SkyShadowing/TamrielMap.jpg.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:19 pm

how about http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab46/TESPICTUREZ/obcodex_morrowind.jpg?
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:08 pm

The Chimer and Dwemer, and quite a few structures on Vvardenfell survived Sun's Death. I wouldn't be surprised if even on and around Vvardenfell many survived this time around as well.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:21 am

To be honest, my drawing was a very conservative estimate.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:20 am

The above map has the problem representing the size of Red Mountain.

Red Mountain isn't a run-of-the-mill, ordinary volcano like Mount St. Helen. It's a divinely-created http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano. Pretty much, the entire island of Vvardenfell is Red Mountain, just as the Hawaiian Islands are parts of Volcanos, as was stated earlier.

And this eruption wasn't the mere result of tons of pressure building up inside the volcano and releasing naturally. This is a sudden eruption. To represent, The Infernal City represents that being "well over Morrowind" (take from that what you will) is ashen wasteland as far as the eye can see.

We don't know how much of the Inner Sea is boiling (IMO, the term "Scathing Bay" implies that only the water within that bay is heated, as otherwise it'd be the "Scathing Sea")

They don't refer to the "smoking shatterlands that once were Vvardenfell". They refer to the "smoking shatterlands that once were Morrowind", indicating that the majority of the province was wrecked.

I drew a map a long time ago that detailed my theory, and here it is: http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/SkyShadowing/TamrielMap.jpg.
Right on. The Vvardenfell isles were created, when the inner sea was formed in the Middle Dawn (or to repel the Kamal, can't remember). Since then, it's been sleeping. The 'bay' could apply to a mostly Vvardenfelless, Inner Sea.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:28 pm

The Kamal came during the 2nd era, which is when Vivec flooded Morrowind, and Almalexia and the Underking, Wulfhart, drove the Snow Demon King at Red Mountain. Red Mountain came before recorded history when Shor's heart was casted down upon Tamriel
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:10 am

I drew a map a long time ago that detailed my theory, and here it is: http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff74/SkyShadowing/TamrielMap.jpg.

Imo, this is the most accurate. Some of Morrowind has to survive, otherwise, who where the argonians fighting?
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:08 am

the infernal city reports tsunamis as far as Summurset. the ash cloud would also likely cover most of northeastern Tamriel, though nowhere near as seriously as Morrowind.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:27 am

The Kamal came during the 2nd era, which is when Vivec flooded Morrowind, and Almalexia and the Underking, Wulfhart, drove the Snow Demon King at Red Mountain. Red Mountain came before recorded history when Shor's heart was casted down upon Tamriel



I never understood why Wulfharth teamed with Almalexia during this battle. It seems slightly askew.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:33 am

I never understood why Wulfharth teamed with Almalexia during this battle. It seems slightly askew.

Almalexia forced him via necromancy.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:06 pm

I hope we find out in the next game what happened to some of the characters such as Helseth, Barenziah, and Divayth Fyr. As I mentioned in the past, I'm not so sure that Fyr survived, assuming he was home that day. The fact that pockets of slavery still exist forty years later (as seen in "The Infernal City") might be a sign that Helseth and his attempted modernizations were swept away, though personally I hope both he and his mother survived.


If Fyr died I do not care, but if Yagrum died...
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:34 pm

Well if Yagrum survived, what little was left of his mental health has surely left him by now.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:57 am

If the explosion of Red Mountain was as cataclysmic as we're led to believe, I can't see any way how that little guy survived without the intervention of some powerful magic.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:20 am

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7466/mapmorrenormous.jpg

Well look it's settled then! Fyr must still be alive. ;)

And oh boy I can't wait for the Dunmer to learn love from their ancient enemy. Cause you know I play Elder Scrolls games for their moral values. :brokencomputer:

The Dunmer should just kick the Skaal off the island and make it Morrowind Attempt 2.

Also, what the hell are almsivi spells going to do? Take you to the nearest temple/shrine near you? You are not going to escape with those. There's just too many of you are basing way too much on game mechanics and gameplay to explain something most citizens do not engage in.


There are other teleport spells besides Intervention and Mark/Recall

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I majorly agree, people are blowing the destruction out of proportion. A lot more survived than people think.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:28 pm

I majorly agree, people are blowing the destruction out of proportion. A lot more survived than people think.

proof? Or at least your thoughts. BTW, my drawing was only for areas hit immediately hit, as in the second they were hit those areas were gone.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:03 pm

Red Mountain came before recorded history when Shor's heart was casted down upon Tamriel

Yes, the island was made later.

Diagrams are a little preliminary, at this point. This is just about who wants the guy(s) dead and who dosn't. We are all equally uninformed about the survivor's identities.

This isn't the Divayth Fyr discussion?
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:49 am

If the explosion of Red Mountain was as cataclysmic as we're led to believe, I can't see any way how that little guy survived without the intervention of some powerful magic.


I think it's likely that everyone in Fyr's stronghold died, including Yagrum and the remaining corprus victims, what with tsunamis, probable pyroclastic flow, and maybe earthquakes. When you think about it, is he really worse off dead? He's had to live for millennia as the disabled last survivor of his race, with only mindless corprus victims and Fyr's clan for company. It's also merciful for the corprus victims; even though the Blight was long gone thanks to the Nerevarine, the corprus victims remained as they were. If Divayth Fyr wasn't involved in the Ingenium project, he's most likely dead, swept away in the multiple cataclysms. If he was involved in the project, he's definitely dead, as the Ingenium was probably ground zero when the moon hit.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:59 am

I don't know. Yagrum could be the Prophet of Landfall...

The Sotha Sil/Divayth Fyr letters hinted he was going psycho, shortly after the Nerevarine left. He was especially peeved their messiah took Kagrenak's tools back from Fyr, after a short study. Maybe the corprus had confined some of his memories, or he's gone psycho. Or both.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:25 pm

This isn't the Divayth Fyr discussion?

At this point, the two threads are blurring into one.

And yes, my diagram is basically how I feel. Heck, most of what I say is complete conjecture, but it's not without reason.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:36 pm

And yes, my diagram is basically how I feel. Heck, most of what I say is complete conjecture, but it's not without reason.

I agree. I do it too. I'm saying, we can't reason who survived. I thought Vvardenfell's annihilation, after it's explosion, was a certainty.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:13 pm

I agree. I do it too. I'm saying, we can't reason who survived. I thought Vvardenfell's annihilation, after it's explosion, was a certainty.

That's what I gathered what the V man was hinting at. The only thing, before the book, that we knew was
A) The world goes boom with the MoT crashing
or
B) Morrowind goes boom with the MoT crashing

Either scenarios were very expected to occur, it was just a matter of time and which of the two.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:40 pm

That's what I gathered what the V man was hinting at. The only thing, before the book, that we knew was
A) The world goes boom with the MoT crashing
or
B) Morrowind goes boom with the MoT crashing

Either scenarios were very expected to occur, it was just a matter of time and which of the two.


I hope that the second book of the "Infernal City" series will be published and that we hear more about the extent of the damage. We know from Keyes' novel that ground zero, the former Vivec City, is a crater lake now, with lethally hot waters that sound permanent, since we're told the bay has been boiling for forty years. However, we still don't know the extent of the destruction outside that region. Hopefully the entire island of Vvardenfell wasn't buried under lava and ash. (Though if Nirn's largest volcano, Red Mountain, cooked off, I wonder if there's a crater lake there too as well. How much of the mountain remains? Some of Earth's volcanoes have lost their entire peak when they went up.)
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:00 am

I hope that the second book of the "Infernal City" series will be published and that we hear more about the extent of the damage. We know from Keyes' novel that ground zero, the former Vivec City, is a crater lake now, with lethally hot waters that sound permanent, since we're told the bay has been boiling for forty years. However, we still don't know the extent of the destruction outside that region. Hopefully the entire island of Vvardenfell wasn't buried under lava and ash. (Though if Nirn's largest volcano, Red Mountain, cooked off, I wonder if there's a crater lake there too as well. How much of the mountain remains? Some of Earth's volcanoes have lost their entire peak when they went up.)

I was thinking Mt. St. Helen with Red Mountain.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:00 pm

I was thinking Mt. St. Helen with Red Mountain.


A good anology, and Red Mountain is even larger. I think someone on the forums once compared it to Nix Olympica on Mars. If Red Mountain is the same size, its base is literally the size of Montana.
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Post » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:19 am

A good anology, and Red Mountain is even larger. I think someone on the forums once compared it to Nix Olympica on Mars. If Red Mountain is the same size, its base is literally the size of Montana.

If that's the case, then I'll say with certainty that Morrowind is probably nothing more than a giant ash pit. And my idea of some survivors has now dropped to maybe a few people
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