After the Oblivion Crisis

Post » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:39 am

How did the Nerevarine's Akavir expedition turn out?


The novel doesn't mention anything about the Nerevarine, as far as I can remember; read it about a week ago.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:52 pm

I guess everyone was right, the Altmer of Summerset really do want to make an empire and squash anything mannish (even their 'tainted' Bosmer kin). :mellow: I totally didn't get that vibe from the Altmer in TESIII and TESIV.

Well, hypothetically, all the Altmer in TES:III and TES:IV wre exiles and outcasts of Summurset because they left their "perfect" home willingly, or because they were forced out for one reason or another.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:55 pm

Well, hypothetically, all the Altmer in TES:III and TES:IV wre exiles and outcasts of Summurset because they left their "perfect" home willingly, or because they were forced out for one reason or another.

Or were on a vacation to look down upon the plebeians.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:26 pm

Or were on a vacation to look down upon the plebeians.

"Oh, honey, what is that horrible little thing?"
"It's a 'Dunmer,' dear."
"My, how positively dreadful!" [holds kerchief to nose]
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:47 pm

"Oh, honey, what is that horrible little thing?"
"It's a 'Dunmer,' dear."
"My, how positively dreadful!" [holds kerchief to nose]

lol i imagine the lady from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyuoUwxCLMs saying that
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:44 pm

As much as I hate the fact that some random author gets to pick up a pen and pretty much change the entire course of history in Tamriel


He didn't randomly change the course of history in Tamriel.

C'mon now.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:55 pm

During the Oblivion Crisis Saint Jiub is killed and the Cliff racers return to Morrowind only to become extinct by the Ministry of truth destroying Morrowind
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:48 pm

He didn't randomly change the course of history in Tamriel.

C'mon now.

I can't tell if this is some statement about the linear nature of time or just saying that you writers have already planned a few games in advance and have it all written down in outline form someplace. Quite a find for an overly inquisitive fan, if it's floating around anywhere.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:09 pm

So much time spent doing quests and making morrowind a better place and for what. So it can get nuked, that really svcks.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:19 pm

So much time spent doing quests and making morrowind a better place and for what. So it can get nuked, that really svcks.

Well, in the end, it would have crashed anyway. Vivec was becoming weaker, and weaker, and eventually he probably couldn't maintain the rock and the ghostgate for too long. Sadly, it was inevitable, as people lost their love for Vivec (which also meant love in general apparently), and it came down crashing. The fight with Sul and that other guy caused it, because they rejected love. Now, it's time to start anew and try to rebuild. If what MK said in the other thread about the nords of Solstheim is true, it'll be an interesting rebuilding of nordish and dunmer bonds.

And hey, it sometimes does take a huge loss to gain something greater. There's a silver lining in this somewhere; it just won't be immediate.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:03 pm

Quite a find for an overly inquisitive fan, if it's floating around anywhere.

I imagine it's all on a flash-drive in a file-cabinet in Todd Howard's office labelled "Tax Returns 2004"
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:46 pm

I can't tell if this is some statement about the linear nature of time or just saying that you writers have already planned a few games in advance and have it all written down in outline form someplace. Quite a find for an overly inquisitive fan, if it's floating around anywhere.

The latter, I daresay. At the very least, the devs would have all/most of the intervening event between TES IV and V plotted out at this point, so there's not a whole lot left for Keyes to make up. It certainly wouldn't make sense for the devs to allow an outside author to make up all the lead-up-to-TESV lore by himself. Chances are, Umbriel is the only thing in the book that wasn't already in Bethesda's in-house documents, before they even contacted Keyes.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:29 pm

Did the book say anything about Mournhold? I wonder if the An-Xileel made it their new capital. The "City of Light and Magic" would certainly be better than any town you could possibly find in Black Marsh. Or perhaps, the city was leveled by Vvardenfell raining down on it. :/
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Post » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:18 am

i havent read the book, but arent the an-zileel totally anti-anything-not-from-argonia? it wouldnt make much sense for a completely nationalistic faction to make their new capital the capital of everything they despise.
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Post » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:15 am

Did the book say anything about Mournhold? I wonder if the An-Xileel made it their new capital. The "City of Light and Magic" would certainly be better than any town you could possibly find in Black Marsh. Or perhaps, the city was leveled by Vvardenfell raining down on it. :/

Nothing. Plus, the argonians REALLY love their swamps; I doubt they would occupy it. Destroy it, sure. Occupy? Very unlikely, since it's not argonian, and not of the swamps.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:46 pm

Nothing. Plus, the argonians REALLY love their swamps; I doubt they would occupy it. Destroy it, sure. Occupy? Very unlikely, since it's not argonian, and not of the swamps.

Maybe they picked it clean of anything of value. After all, if the An-Xileel wants to become a big empire, they'd need a lot more than tree sap.

Perhaps I'm using too many historical references. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople, the city was so rich, big and fortified that they made it their own capital, after looting it and converting every church into a mosque. I just thought it would be the same with Mournhold. Loot the city, plant hist trees, etc.
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Post » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:13 am

Maybe they picked it clean of anything of value. After all, if the An-Xileel wants to become a big empire, they'd need a lot more than tree sap.

Perhaps I'm using too many historical references. When the Ottomans took over Constantinople, the city was so rich, big and fortified that they made it their own capital, after looting it and converting every church into a mosque. I just thought it would be the same with Mournhold. Loot the city, plant hist trees, etc.


Maybe I'm wrong, but the novel seemed to say that the An-Xileel were concentrated around Lilmoth. Maybe Mournhold was destroyed by a tsunami and is a smaller city decades later -- a reduced population living among the ruins of Mournhold, like living with Roman ruins. That's just a quick speculation, though.
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Post » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:21 am

Maybe I'm wrong, but the novel seemed to say that the An-Xileel were concentrated around Lilmoth. Maybe Mournhold was destroyed by a tsunami and is a smaller city decades later -- a reduced population living among the ruins of Mournhold, like living with Roman ruins. That's just a quick speculation, though.


the book says that argonians ran the dunmer clear out of Morrowind and onto Solsthiem. Argonians would live fine in New Morrowind, in fact better than most other parts of the Continent. The entire country is now very geothermally active, and would keep them constantly warm. and to boil stuff, you'jjust have to dip it in the Inner Sea.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:13 pm

Well, in the end, it would have crashed anyway. Vivec was becoming weaker, and weaker, and eventually he probably couldn't maintain the rock and the ghostgate for too long. Sadly, it was inevitable, as people lost their love for Vivec (which also meant love in general apparently), and it came down crashing. The fight with Sul and that other guy caused it, because they rejected love. Now, it's time to start anew and try to rebuild. If what MK said in the other thread about the nords of Solstheim is true, it'll be an interesting rebuilding of nordish and dunmer bonds.

And hey, it sometimes does take a huge loss to gain something greater. There's a silver lining in this somewhere; it just won't be immediate.

Interesting, I hadn't thought about them rejecting love as they fought (although really, Sul didn't. Vuhon rejected love in his clingy jealousy of Sul over Sul's wife, though) and I would love to see a Dunmer-Nordic culture. Not the wierd Daedric quest from Oblivion kind, I mean several generations of mostly peaceful coexistence kind.

i havent read the book, but arent the an-zileel totally anti-anything-not-from-argonia? it wouldnt make much sense for a completely nationalistic faction to make their new capital the capital of everything they despise.

Apparently, not a lot of Argonians stayed in Morrowind in general. They were perfectly happy with burning the Dunmer out and going back to party with the Hist. After all, the swamps are their homeland and the Bitter Coast got nuked.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:31 pm

Interesting, I hadn't thought about them rejecting love as they fought (although really, Sul didn't. Vuhon rejected love in his clingy jealousy of Sul over Sul's wife, though) and I would love to see a Dunmer-Nordic culture. Not the wierd Daedric quest from Oblivion kind, I mean several generations of mostly peaceful coexistence kind.
It was a mishmashed attempt to bring the LL together and why MoT crashed
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Post » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:22 am

I would love to see a Dunmer-Nordic culture.

Dunmer chugging down mead and Nords with raspy voices? :spotted owl:
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:28 pm

Dunmer chugging down mead and Nords with raspy voices? :spotted owl:

awesome.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:12 pm

awesome.

+100
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Post » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:59 am

Dunmer chugging down mead and Nords with raspy voices? :spotted owl:

Well, I'd imagine it'd include that too, but also big dunmer with huge axes and claymores, and spellcasting Nords. A sort of breton-like race of long-term half elves.
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Post » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:54 am

Well, I'd imagine it'd include that too, but also big dunmer with huge axes and claymores, and spellcasting Nords. A sort of breton-like race of long-term half elves.

Oooh, a big red-eyed nord-mer! :ooo:
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