Not really, with only one ending being true, the narrative can only proceed down one axis.

Wheres with the Warp, we have multiple axes.

Remember, the miracle peace of was only temporary, the Empire crumbles and Orsinium gets sacked. Mannimarco is still out there, trolling Arkay, and the Underking...well, he's out there, somewhere. And of course, the resounding implications of the gods being half-dead and plastic.

Much more interesting than if TES was a rigid and mandated that say, only Daggerfall got hold of Walking Brass. Bam. Empire of Daggefall. No contest, no conflict, no drama.

Also, recall the Dev who wrote the putatively-canon texts that helped to resolve and explain that this glaring discrepancy.

His initials, are of course, M and K.

QED we of the Shadowy Lore-Forum Clique would run into massive invisible walls if we tried to explain anything without linking to MK. It's just a necessity.

Not really, the mythic dawn cult could have still killed the emperor and summoned Dagon.

I would love to see that fight, Dagon Vs Numidium.

Also just becuase the Orc city is gone doesn't mean they wouldn't be playable.

Dagon would be ripped to shreds by the Numidium. It punches Aka in the balls everytime its activated, and Akatosh beat Dagon in about a minute. And [censored] that, the Crisis is boring. The much, much more interesting Great War wouldn't have happened. They used the Numidium to sack Alinor at the end of the second era, and would have done it again at the beginning of the Fourth. No Great War, no banning of Talos, no Alduin.

No. The orcs got into the Empire because they got the Numdium and threatened to [censored] up Tamriel unless they were given citizenship.

No Great War, no banning of Talos, no Alduin.

I cant find a "great war" that we never got to experience fun.

Also the banning of Talos is only required to summon Alduin becuase they wrote it that way, had Numidium not need destroyed they could have easily made the lore diffrent to get alduin.

It isnt like the whole 5 signs to summon alduin thing was made at the time of daggerfall.

This conflict leads directly into Skyrim's plot.

The orcs were recognized as citizens barbecue of Numidium their entire races existence didn't depend on it. they could have scattered across the empire and gone into hiding and you could be a ORC set to jail to get executed and then the game would play as it normally does.

And you get killed by the first guard you see who assumes you're a raider with the intellect of a goblin. They were not citizens. You would be killed, not arrested.

Or they could just treat you like trash.

they could have written the lore into "Orcs aren't considered official members of the empire and don't get the same respect but they are tolerated to an extent.

on a unrelated note does ES have a G-Man figure?

Lorkhan's the closest you're gonna get to that.

I will let it go once they learn how canon works.

ES is in so special position when it comes to how its canon works and to think it is, is arrogance of the highest magnitude.

I do not give up on the ignorant simply because they refuse to learn.

It's not that people don't know what it is, they don't care.

Because goblins attack everything on sight while they could make the Orcs not.

Bethesda could seriously make up any number of reasons on why the Orcs don't get killed.


on a unrelated note does ES have a G-Man figure?

then why are you taking about something you hate?

Orcs attacked everything on sight, and in Summerset, they've trained goblins for all sorts of things.

Now, you're completely right that there are a thousand reasons why the Orcs could have integrated into the empire. It could be that an Orc saved Uriel Septim's life in between Daggerfall and MW. The Nords could have started to support / ally with the Orcs, hoping that they would distract HF & HR for the good of Skyrim. The question is: why make up something boring and non-interactive like that, when you could use the endings of Daggerfall in a fascinating timey-wimey ball?

Considering the whole "dragon beak" "warp in the west" thing was not interactive since I couldn't do it in the game itself that point is kinda moot.

The warp in the west was the game. Daggerfall was totally interactive.

then why are you taking about something you hate?

We don't care about what is and is not canon.

We care about what is and is not interesting.

This shouldn't take 7 pages to explain.