Akaviri Neglection

Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:43 pm

I pretty sure that almost everybody has noticed this, but i had to ask. Why are the akaviri races being neglected so much in terms of lore and inclusion in the elder scrolls. I mean you have four completely unique races (maybe more if Bethesda goes in-depth).

There is pretty much one good lore source on the Akavir, Mysterious Akavir, but what i don't understand is why they are being neglected, they are a completely unexploited source of lore.

Ideas and friendly discussions welcome.
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Josephine Gowing
 
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:16 pm

It's thousands of miles that way-->
Also, people are still getting to know Tamriel. Elswyr, Valenwood, and Blackmarsh also have a very large room for lore expansion as well as plot development. Why drive to Canada to examine the forest when you can do so in your own backyard. (Please substitute a different country if you are, in fact, from Canada, or in a country in which one cannot drive to Canada.)
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:52 pm

Indeed we still have much to learn about the Tamrielic empires citizens.
So why not wait a few games and then maybe introduce the Dragon-Tigers and Monkeys and so on?

And then we have Pyandonea, Thras, and maybe even Yokuda, Atmora, Aldmeris.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:31 pm

Because all the Akaviri wanna do is kill us. And all we wanna do is kill Akaviri.

Lets go genocide some snake and tiger people. Dang furries/scalies.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:11 pm

It's thousands of miles that way-->
Also, people are still getting to know Tamriel. Elswyr, Valenwood, and Blackmarsh also have a very large room for lore expansion as well as plot development. Why drive to Canada to examine the forest when you can do so in your own backyard. (Please substitute a different country if you are, in fact, from Canada, or in a country in which one cannot drive to Canada.)


Then again you can examine Canadian when you see one in you hometown. Just as wise men of Tamriel could study Akaviri races. It's well known fact that Tsaesci blood flows in considerable section of Imperial (noble) families still. To me lore gives impression that Tsaesci-population during 2nd era was considerable, cross marrying between Tsaesci and humans was considerable. Tsaesci as a race shouldn't be that mysterious. Even when humans themselves weren't and aren't very happy about common era and how they were led by Tsaesci.

Legions even invaded parts of Akavir, they remained there for some time quite surely there was someone enough interested to take notes. Little is known outside invasion's progress, outcome and costs. Well maybe Mysterious Akaviri is seed of that invasion?
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:11 am

To me lore gives impression that Tsaesci-population during 2nd era was considerable, cross marrying between Tsaesci and humans was considerable. Tsaesci as a race shouldn't be that mysterious. Even when humans themselves weren't and aren't very happy about common era and how they were led by Tsaesci.


Ah, you can put that on the same list as the Jungles, the sprawling metropolis, the thousand-and-eight cults and Imperial High Culture and everything else from the PGE. Then blame it on the lack of audio space on the dvd or Todds idea's that people really want another generic fantasy world http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/426/426475p1.html.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:49 am

And then we have Pyandonea, Thras, and maybe even Yokuda, Atmora, Aldmeris.


this

Plus most of Tamriel.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:25 pm

this

Plus most of Tamriel.



Plus Aetherius and large parts of Oblivion.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:57 pm

Doubt we'll be visiting Aetherius ;)

But the best thing about the Akaviri is their mystery. It'd be like showing humans what the afterlife is like. No good can come of it, wouldn't we rather imagine them :P
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:24 am

Part of it is that Akavir is also meant to be the crazy land beyond the horizon of which we know nothing apart from the accounts of a few not entirely trustworthy explorers. It's as if Marco Polo would have come back from China with tales about golden immortal vampire snakemen and tiger people trying to become dragons. The catch, of course, is that in this case, these accounts would actually be rather truthful.


'Here be dragons', get it?
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:45 pm

'Here be dragons', get it?*


*Disclaimer: Please note said dragons might be invisible, at high altitude, behind your back or otherwise not observable. The Imperial College of Tourism and College of Akatology however have independently verified that here be actual Dragons. This disclaimer should not be taken as an implied promise of re-fund when no dragons were seen when following this map of the Imperial City.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:58 pm

Ah, you can put that on the same list as the Jungles, the sprawling metropolis, the thousand-and-eight cults and Imperial High Culture and everything else from the PGE. Then blame it on the lack of audio space on the dvd or Todds idea's that people really want another generic fantasy world http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/426/426475p1.html.


I agree. Its best we never see Akavir in a TES game...EVER. I'd like my RPs vibrant and fun, before Bethesda kills the settings my svcking them try of all the creativity. Its the same logic as to why movies based off of books always svck (I'm pointing at you Warner Brothers).
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:02 pm

yeah, i doubt we'll ever see anything except tamriel represented in-game. tamriel being our contenient. nirn of course the planet.

though i suppose if we do ever play on summurset isle, there could be a chance of ever seeing thras or pyandonea, as they are suppose to be fairly close. though thrash is mostly coral, but pyandonea would be extremely dense jungle.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:57 am

I doubt modern PC's and definitely consoles contain enough processing and rendering power to actually do "The Isle" and its on-goings justice. (I.E. attacking a Psijic. The things he would do just couldn't be rendered in Oblivion)
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:19 pm

Ah, you can put that on the same list as the Jungles, the sprawling metropolis, the thousand-and-eight cults and Imperial High Culture and everything else from the PGE. Then blame it on the lack of audio space on the dvd or Todds idea's that people really want another generic fantasy world http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/426/426475p1.html.

Really though, Morrowind as described as in Morrowind was different from how it was presented. Also, a few books ( A Dance In Fire off the top of my head) present Cyrodiil as a more standard European land. Beth was obviously lazy and I'm no fan of Oblivion, but Vivec was also supposed to be a large, buzzing city.

As for Akavir, I think it would be a bad idea to reveal them all at once. Add small bits of information about them to each game.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:30 pm

Tamriel is all that matters
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:06 am

Tamriel is all that matters

Actually, this is true. Tamriel is the part that effects the Daedric realms. Presumably because the Heart of Lorkhan was buried there, possibly due to White Gold Tower, we are not sure.
Also, Akavir is a land of beasts, the ape people, the serpent people. Who are always at war with each other. No real civilization. Which raises the question why the Nerevarine went there.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:48 pm

Actually, this is true. Tamriel is the part that effects the Daedric realms. Presumably because the Heart of Lorkhan was buried there, possibly due to White Gold Tower, we are not sure.

No, we're sure it's the former. The heart of the world matters more than it's golden artificial [censored]. Every myth centers around Tamriel.

Interesting to note the http://imperial-library.info/obscure_text/tsaesci.shtml makes no specific mention of Tamriel.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:53 pm

i'd say that the Reaching paragraph sort of implies it, with the return of the 1st serpent and all, which happened at the Adamantine. or thats how im reading it.
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