Akaviri in Oblivion : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:37 pm

The easiest explanation would be that Tiber Septim died in 3E 38, while Mysterious Akavir (given its call to action against the Akaviri) may well have been written through information from the 3E 290 invasion (or even more recently, if it were based on the works of explorers). The snake-men could well have eaten the men of the continent in that time period, even if the process had not been started as of 3E 38.

That's not to say Mysterious Akavir should be taken without a grain of salt, given the jingoistic descriptions, internally anonymous author, and knowledge that a normal explorer or member of the 3E 290 invasion could have likely found out.

Not to mention what is said about the information http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore%3a%50ocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_3rd_Edition/Other_Lands.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:52 pm

I have a simple theory about the akaviri armors. What if they are just a style adaptation from the original style. Just like the dwemer armor in oblivion exept for the fact it's the otherway round, The metal is dwemeri but the style is Cyrodiilic.

And in Morrowind, the dwemeri armors could have been truly dwemer style and original. All in all, I believe there are variants of everything lorewise.

But all in all, the ultimate reason is merely game mechanics.

The Morrowind Dwemer armor is the armor there robots used, Oblivion dwemer armor is the armor they [censored] themselves as far as I know.

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:53 pm

I heard somewhere that the Morrowind armour was just bits of their robots stuck together?

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:40 am

I heard somewhere that the Morrowind armour was just bits of their robots stuck together?

Yes, in MW the dwemer armor was taken from defunct robots. It was rare and valuable, unlike "Oblivion" where armors (including Daedric) that should have been worth a king's fortune were commonplace (but I guess that can't be helped, due to scaled levelling).

» Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:50 am

It also makes me rage like [censored] to see the whole "absorbed into the culture" BS is still around.

i always wonder if the current devs will ret-con the whole 'immortal vampire snakeman' bit soon. afterall, there has been many instances of retconned lore. given that any evidence to that is merely from past devs, and questionable literature in morrowind. nothing so much as anything more substancial. i was really disappointed that even in oblivion, there was nothing more of akavari culture, given that imperials are supposively obscessed with them. no statues or paintings or relics, except katanas. maybe it's already began, as the literature in oblivion suggests them as more human. :shrug:

though i think akavir will always be a mystery, as the devs hardly developed the rest of tamriel yet. the southern provinces are still rather mysterious themselves. and i sadly don't see any tes games touching black marsh, elswyr, or valenwood anytime soon.