Alcatraz has a voice. Listen to it here. No spoilers.

Post » Thu May 12, 2011 10:45 am

Reason sometimes is hard ot find in a game alone. Hell this FPS is longer than any FPS in recent memory.

Halo didn't have alot of meaning unless you've read the books. If you did not you did yourself a diservice, because you are willingly leaving yourself oblivious to many things you could not know by simply playing the game. I will not argue, I will simply state he has little no no vocal cords left pretty much. If you want to know the answer to alot of questions I've seen, Read the book Crysis: Legion. Alot is explained there.
-Why the Ceph are called Ceph
-Why the Suit is Repairing Alcatraz
-Why the Ceph tech seems to basic given they can travel through stars
-Why do Ceph tactics and tech seems to similar to ours
-What really is the Virus they are dispersing
-What the Suit's Onboard computer aka "SECOND" really is, and how it behaves
-Why did Prophet Appeared at the end of the game in your mind
-What is going to happen to Alcatraz
-The extend of the Injuries Alcatraz underwent
-Why they are called Dead man walking?: Alcatraz was injured late night, yet Prophet was only able to take it off hours later and put it on you when the sun already came up. brain only lasts a couple of minutes after the heart stops
-How do Nanites replicate? How did they "heal" some of Alcatraz's wounds?. Nanites need a source of raw material to at least make copies of itself. Where do you think the nanites got the raw materials from if there is no action taken place outside the suit... means the materials to fill in your bones, spine, fix your nervous system had to come from inside the suit... what is inside the suit?

These and more I can't really recall are Answered there. Whether you want to speculate further on what you thinkn without reading it is up to you I guess.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 11:02 pm

The game never gives an explanation as to why Alcatraz doesn't talk and more importantly, it is never stated in the game that Alcatraz can't talk. Therefor, we have to assume that Alcatraz is a silent protagonist and not simply a guy who lost his voice.

Consider this: in every single interaction that Alcatraz has with other human beings, not one of them at any point says "Hey, buddy, why aren't you talking?" Gould, Strickland, Lockheart, Hargreave - they ALL speak to Alcatraz during the course of the game (often directly to his face) and not one of them mentions the fact that Alcatraz doesn't speak back. That is indicative of a silent protagonist, not of a guy who lost his voice.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 9:19 pm

If you read the book it will explain why nobody seems to care he is not talking. Its because they already got telemetry readings on his shell that tells them why he can't talk.

Example: If I tell you my brother is mute. Would you in the conversation ask him why he can't speak?
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 7:08 am

I dunno about you, but that gunship at the beginning **** Alcatraz up something bad....on that basis alone it is rather safe to assume his vocal chords were ravaged in the process...
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 5:04 am

If you read the book it will explain why nobody seems to care he is not talking. Its because they already got telemetry readings on his shell that tells them why he can't talk. If that is really in there, that's ridiculous. Oh yeah, and unicorns aren't in the game either, because they all got telemetry readings telling them that the unicorns were off defending London from purple aliens.

The average person isn't going to say, "Ok, finished the game. But I still have a lot of questions about stuff. Well, time to go look FOR A NOVEL THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING ELSE on the internet." Essential material like this needs to make it into the actual game. Mute characters are just dumb. I don't care what the reason is.
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 9:21 am

If you read the book it will explain why nobody seems to care he is not talking. Its because they already got telemetry readings on his shell that tells them why he can't talk. If that is really in there, that's ridiculous. Oh yeah, and unicorns aren't in the game either, because they all got telemetry readings telling them that the unicorns were off defending London from purple aliens.

The average person isn't going to say, "Ok, finished the game. But I still have a lot of questions about stuff. Well, time to go look FOR A NOVEL THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING ELSE on the internet." Essential material like this needs to make it into the actual game. Mute characters are just dumb. I don't care what the reason is.

Average people also dont go around thinking "is that movie based on a comic accurate? should I take it as face value or actually spend 15 minutes searching to see if it holds true to the actual story". No the average person is lazy as we Americans are proof of it; and wants everything served right in front of him or her.

"""I don't care what the reason is""""' that says it all. No reason to argue against that.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 8:33 pm

Average people also dont go around thinking "is that movie based on a comic accurate? should I take it as face value or actually spend 15 minutes searching to see if it holds true to the actual story". No the average person is lazy as we Americans are proof of it; and wants everything served right in front of him or her....What? Are you saying that if you are unwilling to search for information, you are lazy and don't deserve to even have something to enjoy at all? That is like going to a restaurant, getting your drink, and then having the waiter say, "Ok, we hid your food somewhere in the building. Good luck and have fun!"
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 1:34 am

w/e dude. Go read it or dont is your loss only.
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 12:56 am

I have read it. Well, skimmed to be honest. I was curious if Nomad or Psycho were mentioned. In my personal opinion, it was poorly written. Just a bunch of random statements thrown together into a book. Peter Watts writing style is...unique?
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 8:14 pm

Not sure. I dont take it as a literature piece. more of an excerpt from a debriefing. Although that is really what the book is. Simple and to the point.

Whether is unique or not, I cannot say. Dont remember reading anything more about him or any other of his novels.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 9:22 pm

Sounds like quite a legend :)
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 5:53 am

I think that Crytek should have included at least a E-book in the limited edition, as all that i got with the limited edition is multiplayer stuff.
I know there is a nanosuit edition, but I haven't seen that except in competitions, so for me that is pointless.
I think the limited edition should have had more things in it like a free book or e-book Crysis:legion
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 10:20 pm

I think that Crytek should have included at least a E-book in the limited edition, as all that i got with the limited edition is multiplayer stuff.
I know there is a nanosuit edition, but I haven't seen that except in competitions, so for me that is pointless.
I think the limited edition should have had more things in it like a free book or e-book Crysis:legion
EA limited editions are always like this, a Version of the game not limited in stock that gives you things you will get in 10min online.
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 9:39 am

I read the book and i understand why they didn't put a lot of that stuff into the game. Its because then it wouldn't be a game, it would be a interactive movie, cutscenes and ALcatraz speaking to himself all the time. ALcatraz doesn't have vocal cords, not just that, he is also dead. I like that there is a reason for his silence and i like that you need to read a book to get more answers. When was the last time you read a book? I haven't read a book for 2 years till now and i liked that book.
SpartasMaximus is right and arguing with him would be stupid
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 11:43 pm

If it's not explicated in the game, it's up for interpretation. It's ridiculous to expect an audience to look to an outside source to find the "right" answers to questions left un-resolved in the source material. Information as basic as "Can Alcatraz speak?" needs to be in the game unless the writer left it specifically ambiguous/up for interpretation.

But I think what really happened is Morgan wrote a bloated, overly complicated script and realized that he couldn't fit all the requisite information in the game, so he released a book alongside it to fill in the plot holes. This isn't a question of "look to the book for further information," it's "look to the book for necessary, basic information that should have been in the script." That's unacceptable!
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 3:25 am

I read the book and i understand why they didn't put a lot of that stuff into the game. Its because then it wouldn't be a game, it would be a interactive movie, cutscenes and ALcatraz speaking to himself all the time. ALcatraz doesn't have vocal cords, not just that, he is also dead. I like that there is a reason for his silence and i like that you need to read a book to get more answers. When was the last time you read a book? I haven't read a book for 2 years till now and i liked that book.
SpartasMaximus is right and arguing with him would be stupid

Believe it or not, just because you can't imagine how it could be done DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE. Lengthy monologues aren't the only way for a writer to reveal information. I don't mean to be rude, but you said yourself you don't read much. Well, I do, and it's my personal opinion that a LOT could have been explained in the script. You don't need a novel to tell the story that Morgan/Crytek told in Crysis 2.

Also, please consider the last sentence of your post. Really think about it and ask yourself if that's an intelligent statement.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 9:19 pm

I read the book and i understand why they didn't put a lot of that stuff into the game. Its because then it wouldn't be a game, it would be a interactive movie, cutscenes and ALcatraz speaking to himself all the time. ALcatraz doesn't have vocal cords, not just that, he is also dead. I like that there is a reason for his silence and i like that you need to read a book to get more answers. When was the last time you read a book? I haven't read a book for 2 years till now and i liked that book.
SpartasMaximus is right and arguing with him would be stupid

Believe it or not, just because you can't imagine how it could be done DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE. Lengthy monologues aren't the only way for a writer to reveal information. I don't mean to be rude, but you said yourself you don't read much. Well, I do, and it's my personal opinion that a LOT could have been explained in the script. You don't need a novel to tell the story that Morgan/Crytek told in Crysis 2.

Also, please consider the last sentence of your post. Really think about it and ask yourself if that's an intelligent statement.

Maybe not but now we are arguing on something else and they should have mentioned that the guy is dead or doesn't have vocal cords in the game but it didn't change the game that much. Some people believe that he is a muted character and thats it. The whole book was Alcatraz talking in his head, how do you that in the game? And i liked discovering interesting facts that you didn't get from the game.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 11:39 pm

^ fair enough. I don't mean to say that the book doesn't have it's place in the Crysis fiction. My point is (and it's not really my point, I'm agreeing with previous posts) that the game leads the player to believe that Alcatraz is a silent protagonist, ala Gordon Freeman or Soap (from MW), and not a mute protagonist.
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 3:39 am

It seems as though a lot of you don't have a clear definition of suspension of disbelief. The surgeon in the dead man walking chapter clearly mentions that Alcatraz's lungs are ruptured, and it was mentioned in a pretty blunt manner. So he is not just a silent protagonist, there is a logical reason for it. I honestly don't see how that information never got through to those of you that think he is just a silent protagonist.
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 10:52 am

If it's not explicated in the game, it's up for interpretation. It's ridiculous to expect an audience to look to an outside source to find the "right" answers to questions left un-resolved in the source material. Information as basic as "Can Alcatraz speak?" needs to be in the game unless the writer left it specifically ambiguous/up for interpretation.



Of course is ridiculous, books are only ment for those with enough energy to get their asses of their chair and do something productive. So they are not ment for anyone beyond those who are not as lazy as the rest.

By your philosophy I guess you still believe The Spartan Chief is the only Spartan left alive. You'd still have no idea why marcus fenix was in prison. Or you'd still dont know how the chief got back to earth etc... etc...etc.

Not looking for more information is only doing you a diservice... why? because you want it all served in a silver platter.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 9:52 pm

Reason sometimes is hard ot find in a game alone. Hell this FPS is longer than any FPS in recent memory.

Halo didn't have alot of meaning unless you've read the books. If you did not you did yourself a diservice, because you are willingly leaving yourself oblivious to many things you could not know by simply playing the game. I will not argue, I will simply state he has little no no vocal cords left pretty much. If you want to know the answer to alot of questions I've seen, Read the book Crysis: Legion. Alot is explained there.
-Why the Ceph are called Ceph
-Why the Suit is Repairing Alcatraz
-Why the Ceph tech seems to basic given they can travel through stars
-Why do Ceph tactics and tech seems to similar to ours
-What really is the Virus they are dispersing
-What the Suit's Onboard computer aka "SECOND" really is, and how it behaves
-Why did Prophet Appeared at the end of the game in your mind
-What is going to happen to Alcatraz
-The extend of the Injuries Alcatraz underwent
-Why they are called Dead man walking?: Alcatraz was injured late night, yet Prophet was only able to take it off hours later and put it on you when the sun already came up. brain only lasts a couple of minutes after the heart stops
-How do Nanites replicate? How did they "heal" some of Alcatraz's wounds?. Nanites need a source of raw material to at least make copies of itself. Where do you think the nanites got the raw materials from if there is no action taken place outside the suit... means the materials to fill in your bones, spine, fix your nervous system had to come from inside the suit... what is inside the suit?

These and more I can't really recall are Answered there. Whether you want to speculate further on what you thinkn without reading it is up to you I guess.
All of these but the second are explained in the game..and third, and forth . but htats it
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 11:33 pm

The only one explained ingame is the first one. The rest are not. but I wont argue, you believe they were then well ok.
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 9:09 am

If it's not explicated in the game, it's up for interpretation. It's ridiculous to expect an audience to look to an outside source to find the "right" answers to questions left un-resolved in the source material. Information as basic as "Can Alcatraz speak?" needs to be in the game unless the writer left it specifically ambiguous/up for interpretation.



Of course is ridiculous, books are only ment for those with enough energy to get their asses of their chair and do something productive. So they are not ment for anyone beyond those who are not as lazy as the rest.

By your philosophy I guess you still believe The Spartan Chief is the only Spartan left alive. You'd still have no idea why marcus fenix was in prison. Or you'd still dont know how the chief got back to earth etc... etc...etc.

Not looking for more information is only doing you a diservice... why? because you want it all served in a silver platter.

I have an MA in English Literature. I read & teach reading/writing for a living. So keep making assumptions - see how intelligent you look?

Here's the thing, though. I don't read pulp sci-fi video game books. That's not my cup 'o tea. I can tolerate regurgitated sci-fi tropes in the GAME because I don't play video games for the intellectual stimulation that good writing gives me. The pleasure that I derive from gaming is entirely different than the pleasure that I derive from reading. That is why I'm willing to tolerate Richard Morgan's recycled dreck as a back-drop for Crysis 2. What I'm NOT willing to do, however, is waste my time reading a book that would bore the crap out of me to fill in the plot holes in the game's script. Any piece of writing should be able to stand on it's own without relying on outside sources to explain away inconsistencies. I expect that even of video games; even of Crysis 2.
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Post » Thu May 12, 2011 11:31 am

W/e makes you feel more comfortable. You want to know more about the story great if not then is your choice. I'll stop here since this is going nowhere.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2011 11:58 pm

W/e makes you feel more comfortable. You want to know more about the story great if not then is your choice. I'll stop here since this is going nowhere.

See, why didn't you just say that in the first place? You don't have to automatically start assuming people are idiots just because their opinion differs from yours.
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