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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:31 pm

Having watched the trailer yet again....I"ve lost count as to how many times. I noticed these flowers http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk70/Zanzaman/Flowers02.png and http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk70/Zanzaman/Flowers01.png. They look like they may be clumps of bergamot, but I would invite further examination by all the alchemical enthusiasts out there as to what they might actually be. There are several other points in the video where flowers appear (not to mention the dreaded nirnroot) and I'd have to say they look far more realistic than they did in MW or OB. :thumbsup:

And althought, alchemy will be a part of stealth, I've always had a penchant for it and will develop that skill on my mage!

Regards,

Bram
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:47 pm

I can't get a clear enough picture, even at 150% magnification, can't tell what the leaves, the stems, or the blossoms look like.
By bergamot, do you mean bergamot in the monarda family, or the citrus family?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:57 am

I can't get a clear enough picture, even at 150% magnification, can't tell what the leaves, the stems, or the blossoms look like.
By bergamot, do you mean bergamot in the monarda family, or the citrus family?

I think he means in the what plant is this in TES world. I don't think he really cares what it is in our world. It could be Bergamot, I need a better screengrab to look at it properly.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:45 pm

In the cliff screenshot, are the flowers on the right a different kind? They look purplish, and could be lavender. Maybe it's just the rock behind them?

I am such a nerd. :sadvaultboy:

EDIT: The only Oblivion plant to grow near Bruma was Wormwood. I imagine Skyrim had to may up new flora for the purposes of snowy biomes. It's probably something new?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:34 pm

I don't know why people are afraid of Nirnroot.
It's only a horrible quest if you actually go around and collect the bloody plants, but that quest was imagined to be a quest that you complete little by little on the way (at least that's my theory).

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I have no idea what are those. :P
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:48 pm

I have always been a huge fan of alchemy in TES but although I spotted a couple of examples of what looked like harvestable plants in the Skyrim trailer, I wasn't able to identify what they were.

I don't think they were Nirnroot though, despite loads of folks here claiming they saw it - Nirnroot is supposed to grow in wet areas and this is consistent with the environments where it was found in Cyrodil in Oblivion, whereas the areas in the Skyrim trailer where you could see harvestable plants looked much more arid with less waterlogged soil. So I hope they aren't Nirnroot!
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:52 pm

I don't know why people are afraid of Nirnroot.
It's only a horrible quest if you actually go around and collect the bloody plants, but that quest was imagined to be a quest that you complete little by little on the way (at least that's my theory).


I'd say it's kind of a boring quest that's really kind of unrewarding seeing as all you get for your troubles is progressively stronger versions of a potion that wasn't all that useful to begin with, but that's rather irrelevent, the issue was not the plant itself, but the fact thatthere was a quest where the entire goal was to collect it, many samples of it. and let's face it, collecting plants doesn't usually make for a very exiting quest, and the Nirnroot quest requires you to do a lot of collecting plants, and a fairly rare plant at that, it's understandable that the quest annoys people, but Nirnroot being in Skyrim doesn't mean we'll have an identical quest, I doubt Bethesda would reuse the exact same quest even to the point where your collecting the same plant, at the very least, they'd need to find a different plant for you to hunt for.

I don't think they were Nirnroot though, despite loads of folks here claiming they saw it - Nirnroot is supposed to grow in wet areas and this is consistent with the environments where it was found in Cyrodil in Oblivion, whereas the areas in the Skyrim trailer where you could see harvestable plants looked much more arid with less waterlogged soil. So I hope they aren't Nirnroot!


The plant people are saying is a Nirnroot IS growing next to water, it's in the part of the trailer where the player stabs someone to death in first person view by the shore of what looks like a river or lake, in any case, its definitely a body of water, the water in it may may look bad, but not so bad that I can't tell it's water.

I can't guarentee that it's Nirnroot, but it certainly looks similar and is growing near water, so I'd say it's likely.

Aside from what looks like a Nirnroot, I can't really identify any particular plants seen in the trailer myself, I couldn't make out what every plant seen in it looked like (Not that I was paying that much attention to individual plants to begin with.). Besides, it wouldn't necessarily be easy to tell just by looking at a plant if it can be harvested or not, and Skyrim is likely to have many plants that were not in past games, so even if we see a plant that looks like it would be harvestable, we may not know what it is.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:28 pm

Hehe, I think that quest is probably the most rewarding of them all. Exploration being the reward. The quest is just a silly mechanic to get you going, a motivator giving you a *reason* to just explore.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:21 am

I'm going to just assume they are Nirnroot:

1. Because the look like Nirnroot

2. They are near water.

Thats my not very accurate conclusion.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:34 pm

To everyone: I have tried to get a better pic, but resolution isn't any better. Sorry about that. Best I can offer is for peeps to step thru the trailer video at those points. I get a better look in media player, but not when I take a screen shot. There are other plants in the forest scenes as well that could be pickable flowers. And in answer to the quesiton "what kind a bergamot" I meant the kind that was seen in OB. :tes:
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:31 am

To me, in the trailer, the Nirnroot looked like a clump of dandelion leaves. They could very well be Nirnroot, though, why not.

And I think those plants do look like bergamot... Hooray for alchemy!
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:56 pm

By bergamot, do you mean bergamot in the monarda family, or the citrus family?

He means the Bergamot in the Oblivion family.


I'm going to just assume they are Nirnroot:

1. Because the look like Nirnroot
2. They are near water.

Thats my not very accurate conclusion.

1. No they don't
2. No they aren't

Maybe you should actually look at the pictures, next time.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:12 pm

Can't identify it. I only used alchemy really for one of my characters, so I'm not too familiar with the different plants. I might use it in Skyrim though, because I remember it being a lot of fun in Oblivion.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:23 am

Yes those are some sort of alchemical flower. Likely something new for skyrim tho.

As for nirmroot we know both that there is nernroot and that its far from rare now...
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:14 pm

Doesn't look anything like Oblivion bergamot, which is similar to IRL bergamot from the monarda family.

Quite a few of the plants used in TES alchemy actually exist IRL, which was why I was asking. The team does a nice job of researching and imaging them. For example, the Oblivion monkshood looks like actual monkshood, which is actually Aconite, a deadly poisonous plant.
It was historically used with Belladonna by witches to create a sensation of flying.
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