Alduin - How do you think is the appearance of him?

Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:40 am

Alduin is supposed to be Akatosh himself so I would assume he would look similar to the fiery dragon of Martin.
In my opinion Akatosh is major d1ck for banishing Dagon from his own land.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:47 pm

The guy in the middle of the wall from the teaser/trailer.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:49 pm

Mundus is not Dagon's birthright, only a place to utterly annihilate. Mundus is the realm created by Lorkhan/Shor/Shezarr along with the aedra, who may or may not have liked the idea, depending who you asked. Don't believe everything Mankar said, for a bunch of stuff is incorrect, while some of it is correct, to an extent.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:25 pm

He eats Time and Space as far as nirn is concerned anyway. maybe Dragons are only what mortals see, while Dragon born can see for what he really is.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:53 pm

I imagine Alduin as a giant, golden dragon. Why golden? Because the Avatar of Akatosh was golden in Oblivion, and because it looks cool.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:12 pm

I imagine Alduin as a giant, golden dragon. Why golden? Because the Avatar of Akatosh was golden in Oblivion, and because it looks cool.


um..... The avatar of Akatosh wasn't gold...it was just completely wreathed in flame...
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:21 pm

Hey, we're in the land of the nords! Shor is pretty much the main deity of the area, so learning about him should be almost second nature.


I sense a trip to that Shor temple sometime in Skyrim. I'm pretty sure we're gonna be led there in the main quest at some point just so casuals can learn his nature.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:19 pm

Alduin's gigantic, draconic mouth shall fill the sky. His teeth will be like a thousand points of terrible light, blinding the people with the terror of their own doom. His eight wings shall transport his radial body through the void, and the heavens will quake and tear with each movement of each wing. In the depths of his throat the people will see death, but the Dovakhiin sees a plan.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:44 pm

Alduin = Bigger and More Badass Deathwing?
http://www.otakia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/aile_de_mort.jpg

Dude has to lose some pounds, look how chunky that mofo is. Just get up behind the shoulder plates and poke away.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:56 pm

Alduin = Bigger and More Badass Deathwing?
http://www.otakia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/aile_de_mort.jpg
Psh, Alduin will make Deathwing look like a gecko. A very small and uninspired gecko.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:52 pm

Alduin will be of such immense size he can coil himself atop a mountain and devour the largest town in three easy and delicious bites. His mouth will be filled with hundreds of thousands of oversized jutting teeth that protrude from his jaws. The molten and distilled form of the universe drips from his mouth. His eye sockets are empty except for red evil light glowing in them, staring into them you can feel his pure hatred and rage for everything alive. He is here to kill you, and everything. His bellow will shake towns like an earthquake can only dream of. To face him with a sword is folly, you have to find some other way to fight him.

Deathwing is not even fit to be his spawn.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:12 am

I hope there's no fighting from the inside out haha. Being a part of Alduin's spilled insides that spills over into the next kalpa isn't exactly what I had in mind, assuming that someone manages to yet again stow away parts of Mundus for next time haha. Oh yeah, there wouldn't be a next time. I hope Dovahkiin is the new change to the cyclic nature.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:15 am

Probably this, only bigger and killing you instead of Mehrunes Dagon. http://media.photobucket.com/image/Akatosh+/AkatoshsServent/ScreenShot49.jpg
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:59 pm

While the avatar of Akatosh was a dragon I would actually like Alduin to be somewhat more abstract with the occasional appearance of him in a physical form. I think we'll be seeing plenty of dragons and for someone that's suppose to be the master of time and space the idea of just being a bigger dragon seems a bit lame.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:02 pm

http://www.prominentmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/How_to_train_your_Dragon_by_Hobsyllwin1812.jpg

How to train your daedric death god.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:44 pm

Alduin and Akatosh are two side of a god, and they do not need to look alike in their manifestation in the Nirn world.

I say if the avatar of Akatosh was a fire dragon, then the avatar of Alduin can be a magma dragon, or a stone dragon, or a combination, or something totally different.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:44 pm

If he tend to eat worlds he should be fat.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:00 am

Eh, most likely Shor will make an appearance to stop Alduin again, or we're trying to prevent him from awakening. Fighting a world sized dragon just doesn't seem possible...

I'de have to side with this idea.

As much as people hated Martin Septim stealing your thunder at the end of Oblivion I think the same type of scenerio is going to happen at the end of Skyrim's storyline.

The thing is you'll definitely be able to do your part in battling the dragons and figuring out how they were banished before.

The Dragons were banished from the world of Nirn a thousand years ago, as revealed by GI. How or why is unknown to us yet but part http://media1.gameinformer.com/images/site/pages/esv/images/info2.jpg on Alduin's Wall gives us a clue.

This cryptic image tells of Alduin’s fall to humanity’s ingenuity and bravery, but more than that is not known. This piece of the puzzle would be incredibly important to understand for someone new who might hope to defeat the dragons once again. Who are the individuals standing against Alduin? How did they expel the dreaded beast from the world? Perhaps the re-emergent Dragonborn will uncover the answers.



But as far the the banishment or battle against Alduin I fear that will be left to Shor (Lorkhan).

Orkey, an enemy god, had always tried to ruin the Nords, even in Atmora where he stole their years away. Seeing the strength of King Wulfharth, Orkey summoned the ghost of Alduin Time-Eater again. Nearly every Nord was eaten down to six years old. Boy Wulfharth pleaded to Shor, the dead Chieftain of the Gods, to help his people. Shor's own ghost then fought the Time-Eater on the spirit plane, as he did at the beginning of time, and he won, and Orkey's folk, the Orcs, were ruined. As Boy Wulfharth watched the battle in the sky he learned a new thu'um, What Happens When You Shake the Dragon Just So. He used this new magic to change his people back to normal. In his haste to save so many, though, he shook too many years out on himself. He grew older than the Greybeards, and died. The flames of his pyre were said to have reached the hearth of Kyne itself - http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-five-songs-old-knocker.


Unless the Dovahkiin him/herself is a avatar or Shezzarine sent by Shor (Lorkhan).
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:51 am

I guess I always thought the Dovahkiin to be a avatar, or Shezzarine, sent by Shor (Lorkhan) so that's what I'm thinking right now. Then it may open the door for you, the player, to be the one to banish or fight Alduin.

The prophecy depicted on Alduin’s Wall is dire, but it is not without hope. A single individual, gifted with the same incredible powers held by the dragons themselves, may rise to fight against Alduin and assure the world’s survival. The Blades shown http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3593710/Skyrim-Wallpaper2.png bow before the Dragonborn. They’ve protected the line of the Dragonborn for generations in anticipation of this moment, when a Dragonborn would rise to face Alduin upon his return.


More on this though...

Orkey summoned the ghost of Alduin Time-Eater again. Nearly every Nord was eaten down to six years old. Boy Wulfharth pleaded to Shor, the dead Chieftain of the Gods, to help his people. Shor's own ghost then fought the Time-Eater on the spirit plane, as he did at the beginning of time, and he won.


"At the beginning of time" I think refers to the story told in The Anuad about the two brothers at the beginning of time, Anu and Padomay.
(I believe Anu is Lorkhan and Padomay is Akatosh)


The Anuad

The first ones were brothers: Anu and Padomay. They came into the Void, and Time began.

As Anu and Padomay wandered the Void, the interplay of Light and Darkness created Nir. Both Anu and Padomay were amazed and delighted with her appearance, but she loved Anu, and Padomay retreated from them in bitterness.

(So Nir fell in love with Lorkhan and well Akatosh didn't like that too much. Jealous much? lol)

Nir became pregnant, but before she gave birth, Padomay returned, professing his love for Nir. She told him that she loved only Anu, and Padomay beat her in rage. Anu returned, fought Padomay, and cast him outside Time. Nir gave birth to Creation, but died from her injuries soon after. Anu, grieving, hid himself in the sun and slept.

(Lorkhan in other creation myths inside TES lore has always been the one to push or foster the creation. Lorkhan approached his peers with a plan to create a new plane of existence, and to create and populate it with lesser beings of their own design, which he described as being the "soul of the universe". Lorkhan tricked the other Aedra into doing so as the Mer believe. (See Spoiler Below)

Meanwhile, life sprang up on the twelve worlds of creation and flourished. After many ages, Padomay was able to return to Time. He saw Creation and hated it. He swung his sword, shattering the twelve worlds in their alignment.

Badda bing badda boom! This as I see it directly links Alduin to Akatosh to Padomay. Or maybe just Alduin to Padomay. "Alduin's sobriquet, 'The World Eater', comes from myths that depict him as the horrible, rauaging firestorm that destroyed the last world to begin this one."

Anu awoke, and fought Padomay again. The long and furious battle ended with Anu the victor.

"Shor's own ghost then fought the Time-Eater on the spirit plane, as he did at the beginning of time, and he won." So Shor or Lorkhan is Anu and Padomay is Alduin and Akatosh.

He cast aside the body of his brother, who he believed was dead, and attempted to save Creation by forming the remnants of the 12 worlds into one -- Nirn, the world of Tamriel. As he was doing so, Padomay struck him through the chest with one last blow. Anu grappled with his brother and pulled them both outside of Time forever.

Now the Mer's creation myth claims Lorkhan (Anu in this case) tricked the other Aedra including Akatosh (Padomay) into using their own divine energy to create Nirn and in the process trapped them to the world. (See Spoiler)
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Altmer creation myth: The creation of the Aedra, and thus Nirn, progresses as follows:

Before the universe existed there was Anu, the unchanging stasis. Into this stasis came Padomay, the agent of change, and thus the universe was created. (See the article on Sithis (god), an alternate name for Padomay, for details.) From the chaos of creation came the et'Ada, formless spiritual beings, to populate the universe.

All creation myths across Tamriel include the Aedra Akatosh in some form, as the first of the et'Ada to form an identity, bringing with him the concept of Time. The existence of time aided other et'Ada in forming their own identities, and soon there were hundreds of separate, individual beings. The other common element in all creation myths is the presence of the "trickster", usually called Lorkhan. After some indeterminate amount of time, Lorkhan approached his peers with a plan to create a new plane of existence, and to create and populate it with lesser beings of their own design, which he described as being the "soul of the universe". He was able to convince a group of his fellow spirits to help with his plan, while others suspected a trick or were simply uninterested and were kept out. Lorkhan's plan was executed, resulting in the creation of the mortal plane/planet of Nirn. During this process, it became clear to the Aedra that their own divine energy was being drained to help infuse life into the world. Some of the Aedra managed to escape the mortal world, most notably Magnus, who was initially the chief architect of Lorkhan's plan, but quickly became disgusted with his creation and fled. Since Magnus is not bound by the rules of Nirn, neither is the magic which flows from him, allowing it to violate the natural laws and reach across the planes of existence. Other Aedra drew back from creation in time to maintain some degree of their divinity, leaving them bound to Nirn but still powerful relative to the mortals. A few Aedra continued to sacrifice their divinity to finish the creation of the planet, leaving them weakened and unable to interact directly with the world. The last of these was Lorkhan himself, who is usually said to have died, with his body becoming the physical mass of Nirn. This also explains how Lorkhan's Heart was able to survive on Tamriel for so long, since it literally part of Nirn itself.

One last group of Aedra continued to weaken, even after they had determined what was happening. These beings realized that, in order to maintain their existence, it would be necessary to procreate and bring forth future generations. Each generation took more and more of the divinity of their ancestors, until finally they had weakened to the point of being mortal beings. These beings were called the Ehlnofey, the "bones of the earth", and were the first inhabitants of Nirn.

Eventually, the Ehlnofey would diverge into the various races of man and mer, who would evolve quite different interpretations of the creation myth.


The blood of Padomay became the Daedra. The blood of Anu became the stars.

Not too far fetched from the other stories of Lorkhan (Anu in this case) body being the moons or something like that. Stars, Moons, close enough.

The mingled blood of both became the Aedra (hence their capacity for good and evil, and their greater affinity for earthly affairs than the Daedra, who have no connection to Creation).

(All together that is whyI believe Anu is Lorkhan and Padomay is Akatosh.)

On the world of Nirn, all was chaos. The only survivors of the twelve worlds of Creation were the Ehlnofey and the Hist. The Ehlnofey are the ancestors of Mer and Men. The Hist are the trees of Argonia. Nirn originally was all land, with interspersed seas, but no oceans.

A large fragment of the Ehlnofey world landed on Nirn relatively intact, and the Ehlnofey living there were the ancestors of the Mer. These Ehlnofey fortified their borders from the chaos outside, hid their pocket of calm, and attempted to live on as before.

Other Ehlnofey arrived on Nirn scattered amid the confused jumble of the shattered worlds, wandering and finding each other over the years.

Eventually, the wandering Ehlnofey found the hidden land of Old Ehlnofey, and were amazed and joyful to find their kin living amid the splendor of ages past. The wandering Ehlnofey expected to be welcomed into the peaceful realm, but the Old Ehlnofey looked on them as degenerates, fallen from their former glory. For whatever reason, war broke out, and raged across the whole of Nirn. The Old Ehlnofey retained their ancient power and knowledge, but the Wanderers were more numerous, and toughened by their long struggle to survive on Nirn. This war reshaped the face of Nirn, sinking much of the land beneath new oceans, and leaving the lands as we know them (Tamriel, Akavir, Atmora, and Yokuda).

The Old Ehlnofey realm, although ruined, became Tamriel. The remnants of the Wanderers were left divided on the other 3 continents.

(Hence why the Mer were first on Tamriel and the Nedic people or the first of Mankind came from continent Atmora)

Over many years, the Ehlnofey of Tamriel became:
- the Mer (Elves),
- the Dwemer (the Deep Ones, sometimes called Dwarves),
- the Chimer (the Changed Ones, who later became the Dunmer),
- the Dunmer (the Dark or Cursed Ones, the Dark Elves),
- the Bosmer (the Green or Forest Ones, the Wood Elves), and
- the Altmer (The Elder or High Ones, the High Elves).

On the other continents, the Wandering Ehlnofey became the Men -- the Nords of Atmora, the Redguards of Yokuda, and the Tsaesci of Akavir.

The Hist were bystanders in the Ehlnofey war, but most of their realm was destroyed as the war passed over it. A small corner of it survived to become Black Marsh in Tamriel, but most of their realm was sunk beneath the sea.

Eventually, Men returned to Tamriel. The Nords were the first, colonizing the northern coast of Tamriel before recorded history, led by the legendary Ysgramor. The thirteenth of his line, King Harald, was the first to appear in written history. And so the Mythic Era ended.
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-http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-annotated-anuadLink to Article[/spoiler]


I imagine Alduin as a giant, golden dragon. Why golden? Because the Avatar of Akatosh was golden in Oblivion, and because it looks cool.

Could be but...

Alduin is the Nordic variation of Akatosh, and only superficially resembles his counterpart in the Eight Divines. Alduin's sobriquet, 'The World Eater', comes from myths that depict him as the horrible, rauaging firestorm that destroyed the last world to begin this one. Nords therefore see the god of time (Akatosh was the first of the et'Ada to form an identity, bringing with him the concept of Time) as both creator and harbinger of the apocalypse.

The Nord's know Alduin as a terrible, ravenous dragon who presides over the cycle of existence and devours the universe at intervals. Alduin's coming is feared by all pious Nords, and he is the object of (through Nordic eyes) perverse worship by the Altmer, who venerated Auri-El. Auri-El is just the Elven name for Akatosh like Alduin is the Nordic name for Akatosh.

Nords therefore see the god of time as both creator and harbinger of the apocalypse.


um..... The avatar of Akatosh wasn't gold...it was just completely wreathed in flame...


um... Actually it is.

The avatar of the chief deity of the Nine Divines Akatosh, is a golden dragon. Its relation, if any, to the Tamrielic dragons is unknown - but many stories tell of Akatosh co-mingling with and organizing groups of dragons.http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons .

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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:15 pm

Since it's nord culture and all maybe Anduin should resemble J?rmungandr, except being a fiery dragon instead of a sea serpent..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1bbqPfXmG2A/S-9Wkp1WxMI/AAAAAAAABDQ/FI6vZ4Uoe10/s1600/jormungandr_beta2.png

http://www.alarie.de/gallery/data/1/media/Thor%20vs%20Jormungandr_s.jpg

http://www.bishibooru.com/_images/d2f75312d567866b2a2721eac5f6cb59/34323%20-%20dragon%20jormungand%20monsters%20mountains%20mythology%20scenic%20ship%20water.jpg <-- I like that one

http://dco1.free.fr/pictures/DLecossu_Winterfest_Jormungand.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/destructionofthesticks/jormungand.jpg
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:32 am

Tho i doubt the implemention of a Dragon the size of Nirn (how u gonna add that if the game covers Skyrim?)
imagine fighting that from atop it (shadow of the colossus anyone?)

And though my lore isnt what it should be,i realy doubt the Divines would act personally.
We're way too lazy for that,just saddle some mortal up with a few of our magic trinkets and get him to do it.
Give him a bit of prophecy yadda-yadda and he'll buy right into it.
He'll do the job and we'll take the credit for saving everyone,job well done,easy-peasy.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:20 am

You know, it'd be more awesome if Alduin actually looked like a cosmic horror from Lovecraft or something. But, he's a dargon.

This :) but I always thought of Hermaeus Mora (spelling?) as the big bad king of cosmic horrors in the Elder Scrolls universe :)

But I think Alduin should look like http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100510171505/howtotrainyourdragon/images/8/87/Zz0d02f6ff.jpg from "How To Train Your Dragon", except sleaker and less herp-derp looking :)
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:38 pm

A boss fight with a planet-sized dragon?! It's possible if you become another planet-sized dragon.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:45 am

Eh, most likely Shor will make an appearance to stop Alduin again, or we're trying to prevent him from awakening. Fighting a world sized dragon just doesn't seem possible...


OK this is complete speculation on my part.
Alduin is not actually portrayed as a dragon rather a firestorm or apocalypse of creation.
Lorkhans heart was at the center of the world, the events surrounding it led to Red Mountains effects.

Complete BS again here on my part, but could not a "world eater" of fire, represent Seismic activity..
Volcanos, firestorms earthquakes, magma pouring out, oceans boiling and flooding, just as the creation of a planet.. hense destroyer and genitor.
This type of activity would wake up a bunch of dormant dragons, causing them to head out.

Rofl maybe the goal of Skyrim is to replace Lorkhans heart in the earth, by tearing it out of your own Shezzarine chest.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:19 am

alduin is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big he is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the pharmacy, but that's just peanuts to alduin
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