Alduin's Return, wait, why? : V

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:10 am

I was wondering about the reasons for the return of Alduin, and was wondering which, as Akatosh / Alduin is one of the most powerful gods, this would be something like an Apocalypse, a time when God returns to rid humanity of evil. What do you think?

bliviongate:

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:15 am

He's returning to rid existence of men so that he can transcend the mortal plane and once again move through Aetherius as the unbound serpent of time.

» Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:46 pm

He bouts to eat him some kalpa.

» Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:26 pm

He was imprisoned, now he's staging a prison break

» Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:05 pm

He was imprisoned, now he's staging a prison break

And I don't get this. Didn't he like... save the world in the last Oblivion game as his Cyrodill version, Akatosh? How did that happen if he was trapped?

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:37 am

And I don't get this. Didn't he like... save the world in the last Oblivion game as his Cyrodill version, Akatosh? How did that happen if he was trapped?

Magic.

Actually, I would assume that Martin's summoning of Akatosh is what has enabled him to stage this attack on the world. Stupid Martin.

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:58 am

And I don't get this. Didn't he like... save the world in the last Oblivion game as his Cyrodill version, Akatosh? How did that happen if he was trapped?

He is bound to Tamriel by pact he made with some other deity for unknown reasons, for whatever reason, whether due to his fulfillment of the pact by banishing Dagon, or his release by the destruction of the amulet of kings, he is now tryin to escape

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:04 am

He is bound to Tamriel by pact he made with some other deity for unknown reasons, for whatever reason, whether due to his fulfillment of the pact by banishing Dagon, or his release by the destruction of the amulet of kings, he is now tryin to escape

So if he wants to eat the world, why do the Cyrodillians love him?

» Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:43 pm

So if he wants to eat the world, why do the Cyrodillians love him?

Because he was bound to protect them for thousands of years, they didn't know he would take the first oppurtunity to screw them over and eat some world

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:32 am

I had a thought. Lore mentions dragons being good, intelligent and helping people in war, but here they are savage beasts. It also says they terrorized people before recorded history on that wall. Maybe they are naturally docile, but Alduin, being like the lord of dragons, has control over them now he is escaping. What do you think?

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:26 am

So, basically Martin changed the game-plan last second (the other being me running around in circles trying to make the Zord slip on my urine puddles) and summoned Akatosh's avatar, and REALLY pooched us over in the long run?

Damnit.

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:34 am

So, basically Martin changed the game-plan last second (the other being me running around in circles trying to make the Zord slip on my urine puddles) and summoned Akatosh's avatar, and REALLY pooched us over in the long run?

Damnit.

By the look of the wall, he was destined to muck up.

I think destiny is silly.

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:17 am

I had a thought. Lore mentions dragons being good, intelligent and helping people in war, but here they are savage beasts. It also says they terrorized people before recorded history on that wall. Maybe they are naturally docile, but Alduin, being like the lord of dragons, has control over them now he is escaping. What do you think?

Dragons are enigmatic, they may help people in wars for their own ends or amusemant, and there may be some good ones, but they are too powerful to associate in the affairs of man, the dragon from Redguard ws evil from memory

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:04 am

It's better to have Alduin against us than those STUPID oblivion gates

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:06 am

Pretty similar story line to the newst world of warcraft expansion. (Almost too similar if you ask me)

Deathwing (Giant dragon god) imprisoned with magic under the earth escapes to eat the world.

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:42 am

Pretty similar story line to the newst world of warcraft expansion. (Almost too similar if you ask me)

Deathwing (Giant dragon god) imprisoned with magic under the earth escapes to eat the world.

Yeah, but Akatosh or Alduin are better names than Deathwing

EDIT: And in the long term Skryim is cheaper :celebration:

» Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:22 pm

Yeah, but Akatosh or Alduin are better names than Deathwing

EDIT: And in the long term Skryim is cheaper :celebration:

I don't play WOW and don't even like the game but my understanding is there is game updates every month and its an ever changing world. You get more gameplay out of it then a single player game which is why it costs money monthly.

Deathwing isn't the best name tho lol. WOW is sort of cartoonish tho so I guess thats why.

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:01 am

Pretty similar story line to the newst world of warcraft expansion. (Almost too similar if you ask me)

Deathwing (Giant dragon god) imprisoned with magic under the earth escapes to eat the world.

Only Skyrim's been in development for a long time, and the story of Alduin is older than the concept for the individual game itself. It's likely coincidence, but both are in line with the lore of each series however you slice it.

Either way, I'm eager to see which if any mortal theory on the motives of Akatosh/Alduin are right.

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:34 am

Only Skyrim's been in development for a long time, and the story of Alduin is older than the concept for the individual game itself. It's likely coincidence, but both are in line with the lore of each series however you slice it.

Either way, I'm eager to see which if any mortal theory on the motives of Akatosh/Alduin are right.

Yeah I agree I was half joking about the "too similar" comment. Both games have huge amounts of lore behind them so its likely coincidence.

My only hope is that there is moral dilemmas within the Alduin storyline. I hope its not just "evil dude wants to kill all must be stopped because we are the good guys".

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:15 am

Yeah I agree I was half joking about the "too similar" comment. Both games have huge amounts of lore behind them so its likely coincidence.

My only hope is that there is moral dilemmas within the Alduin storyline. I hope its not just "evil dude wants to kill all must be stopped because we are the good guys".

Well, it's either condemm him to another age of torment, or sacrifice the world as we know it, moral dilemmas will only make sence if you actually have a choice though.

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:56 pm

Well, it's either condemm him to another age of torment, or sacrifice the world as we know it, moral dilemmas will only make sence if you actually have a choice though.

What I mean is I hope theres moral reasonings behind his wanting to kill everything instead of "I'm the bad guy rawwwr".

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:29 am

Its not about "Hey, I'm the bad guy"
Its more "AAAAAAHHH I'm so sick and tired of being stuck here, I'm sorry but the only way out is to KILL YOU ALL"
more like that

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:11 am

being both cause and effect, creator and destroyer, may not make much sense to our limited temporally linear senses, but seen from the meta-dimensional it makes perfect sense. A pleasing symmetry.

Time is a wheel. Time creates the world, or the place in wich the world has probability to condense out of the chaos, and when the wheel goes round again, it eats the world.
This probably needs to happen so the world can exist at all. If it wasnt recycled in this manner, it would wear out and dim and become dead.

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:16 am

What I mean is I hope theres moral reasonings behind his wanting to kill everything instead of "I'm the bad guy rawwwr".

I too, hope the plot is more deep than Oblivions standard "Kill these demons from hell" fantasy storyline

I think that it's all but confirmed he's not just eating the world for kicks, he has been stuck watching the pitiful mortal races for an eternity and he finally has a chance to escape

» Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:57 am

being both cause and effect, creator and destroyer, may not may much sense to our limited temporally linear senses, but seen from the meta-dimensional it makes perfect sense. A pleasing symmetry.

Time is a wheel. Time creates the world, or the place in wich the world has probability to condense out of the chaos, and when the wheel goes round again, it eats the world.
This probably needs to happen so the world can exist at all. If it wasnt recycled in this manner, it would wear out and dim and become dead.

What interesting is that this seems to parrell the story of Shivering Isles.
I won't spoil anything but Alduin and Sheo seem to have similair ordeals at least similair.