YES! YES! YES! and YES! no more bloody aliens! it is about humanity.

If we see a dead alien somewhere fine I will be ok with that but no more Mothership zeta or anything like that again.

You just keep shoving other franchises into this.
I am not asking for something like Resistance. I am not asking for something like War of the Worlds. I am saying that it doesn't kill the Fallout series if we had a small, crashed spaceship in New Mexico desert, or finding dead Aliens in Area 51, if neither of them gets included in NV. And hell, even a small Alien outpost in Area 51 would be nice.
And I'm not taking special encounters as canon. I'm taking Aliens as canon because they were in an official DLC and because they were connected into the canon without conflicting with the main universe.

And yes I am happy with Fallout world as it is now. My point is, now read closely: Aliens aren't fatal for Fallout canon.

Zeta was kinda fun.



Agreed.



Who has to say there have to be more motherships? Aliens have always been in the Fallout Games. Because of that, they exist in the FO Universe. Denying aliens is like denying the BOS.

And, who has to say the aliens are trying to conquer the world? Why cant they just be stranded on Earth, and just scouring the wasteland for other survivors or supplies?

Aliens Have not always been CANON! EASTER EGG= JOKE!
I don't care if we see more alien easter eggs but no more Zetas if we go down that road it will end up as war of the worlds. People will just want more aliens till the game is nothing but "Aliens get of my lawn" crap. Easter eggs yes Zeta no. Zeta was built on the "Aliens are fallout canon because they were in other games as easter eggs" crap. So why not have Godzilla or the Starship Enterprise, klingons or vulcans. What about Dr.Who fallout. Bethesda made a mistake we all make them. Mothership zeta should be treated as a side game one big easter egg. Best left out of canon like ps2 game "Brotherhood of steel".

Why you do keep talking like that including Aliens in this game will cause the developers' heads snap and include any and all past pop culture reference as parts of the game? Besides, Aliens are not pop culture. They are (usually) an assumed race and civilzation living on another planet.

And again you completely fail to understand that including aliens in the game as something else than an easter egg DOES NOT mean they will be a superfaction conquering the world.

P.S. Users have no authority to rule what is an easter egg and what is not. Mothership Zeta is canon. Aliens exist in Fallout canon now. Get over it.

Agreed. Aliens being involved in a side quest or have their own little mini-base wont destroy the game.

Look at the poll more hate aliens then ME! Aliens are just easter eggs "get over it" Aliens were "pop culture' in 1950's America! that is why they are easter eggs in the first fallouts! More fans think aliens would not be in the game and no more zeta or aliens as faction.

Zeta should be like fallout "brotherhood of steel" best left forgotten a side game a big easter egg nothing more.

I wouldn't mind finding alien corpses/tech in Area 51. But I don't really think it needs a full on DLC. Also, aliens have always seemed to make their way into Fallout...

Who cares what the poll is. Fans dont decide what goes into games.

Not a DLC, but maybe a little base or a few aliens roaming the waste. Maybe even a Companion.

Whatever they were in Fallouts 1 and 2, they appeared in flesh in Fallout 3 and thus they are canon. No matter how much you whine about MZ, it will still continue to exist and be a part of Fallout canon.
And you are speaking like everyone thinks MZ svcks and Aliens are bad. Like harmy52 said, many of those who actually like MZ don't tell others about it. You don't tell others about what you like. That makes no sense because there are many things that we like. Now, if someone asks if something is good, http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1073738
And also, you must note two things from the poll:
1) Not wanting aliens in NV doesn't mean the user thinks MZ svcks and Aliens should never be part of Fallout besides easter eggs
2) This poll does not cover all users.

Get over it.
It is very possible that Aliens won't appear in NV, but Aliens still now are a part of Fallout 3 canon. You can't stop it no matter how much you complain. It is a fact and "forgetting" that fact. will not change it.

So let me get this right? people want there to be no canon in games? you guys just want to put any crazy ass random encounter in the game? So the next fallout game I want to be beamed aboard starship enterprise and fight klingons and see Dr.Who. Enterprise vs Godzilla anyone who is with me?

Aliens were nothing more then Easter eggs enough said I don't know what it will take to convince you people of that? I have said that I would not care if they show up again as an easter egg but not as another zeta or a faction. Easter eggs are not meant to be there for makers of games to build on them. If we take easter eggs as canon then we came make all kinds of crazy crap and new canon Laws for every new game and dlc till there is nothing left of fallout.

You arent making sense now. I dont care what you want. MZ is part of Fallout Canon, and you must live with it. Until you accept MZ as canon, I am done with this conversation.

Eh I wouldn't mind the aliens as long as it's not a major plot point or anything.
A small quest or something would be fine.

God. The thought alone is scary. Unless he was really cute. ^_^

It seems that the only argument you can make is that those who disagree with you here are idiots who want to ruin Fallout by inserting Dr. Who.
You're obviously just trying to gain support from other overzealous users.

Overgeneralizing and claiming I or Greatest Alive or any other "MZ is canon" person does not respect Fallout canon is preposterous, childish and stupid.
I do respect Fallout canon and I can't wait for New Vegas to be released. And I sure as hell won't be pissed if there are new types of enemies. Maybe a little disappointed if the old factions disappear, but that's life.

I'm saying it once more. Mothership Zeta and Aliens are canon. Fallout lore will not be eliminated if Aliens appear as a semi-important force once again in the future.

Exactly, best done in moderation.

This is how I want Area 51 to play out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlfUhjJ-Tww

I am all for new enemies I would love to see new enemies! as long as they are not from another planet. I have being trying to say that if we go with special encounters as canon like the aliens were. Then any specail enounter can be counted I am not say that they will but why not? It's like law if you made a verdict for one special, then you have to make the same for all of them. will they do it not likely but who knows what will happen to future games. They could get some new ass CEO that wants to up the wow factor of the games and add crazy crap to it that has nothing to do with canon. Like mothership zeta. I can see peoples point it was in fallout 3 so get used to it. I will except it but I treat it as a big easter egg a big side game. Nothing more. Having Aliens as a new Faction or another mothership zeta is going the wrong way. I can see Aliens as easter eggs again nothing more.

The aliens were far from a "special encounter." They had their own DLC! Having a new enemy to fight is good. Using the same BOS and Enclave [censored] is geting old real quick.

Okay, so you're perfectly fine with Centaurs, combinations of cats, cows and men. Fine with Super Mutants and piles of talking goo integrated on a computer, with ability to control one's mind? Perfectly fine with inbred freaks with 19th century weaponry? But then again, not with an enemy known to all, yet from another planet?

Yes because Centaurs, combinations of cats, cows and men, Super Mutants and piles of talking goo integrated on a computer, with ability to control one's mind were made with the FEV. I am Perfectly fine with inbred freaks with 19th century weaponry because imbreding is a sad human reality. America has guns people collect old guns.

Aliens will change the game because we don't know about them, if we added them anything can happen. To the point were we are playing another game all together that is nothing like the fallout world.

I think all Styles is trying to say is he doesn't want Fallout to turn into Mass Effect.

Yes that is what I am trying to get at.

But that makes no sense. How is FEV any better in terms of realism than Aliens?
And there is no "we" adding Aliens to the game. They are developers and I'm pretty sure developers have enough intelligence not to overuse the Aliens.