Wandering around the outskirts of the Mojave with my grumpy soldier and armoured floating backpack, who both repsectively start firing at something in the distance. I run up to get in on the action and come face to face with... a little green man in a silver space suit.

Seriously?

Just gonna throw that in there just like that..?
No no, I mean, no reason, no logic, no explanation. That's fine, too..
I guess.
..


*Wanders off to play Motorstorm*

You took the Wild Wasteland Perk. You're gonna see some werid stuff during your playthrough.

Ehh.... That's about as zany as it gets..at least until OWB comes out.

That's what happens then you choose Wild Wasteland... and did you pick up the Alien Blaster? It's pretty much the most powerful gun in the game. Theres only like 150 bullets though and they're all found on the alien so don't waste them.

Wild Wasteland, dude. Bringing some of that classic Fallout humour back to NV. And by "classic", I do of course mean "not at all funny."

read carefully the following text .... : there are no other forms of life in the universe , we are alone here , god made in his own image , he is our only protector and guardian , there is nothing else ..... * mib F L A S H *

Yeah. :sadvaultboy:

They took an isolated event in the wastes (that could have been an hallucination), and made it canon in NV (and major DLC in FO3).

*Unless.... Does the WW trait invalidate everything?

Was there really a need to shoehorn so much religion in there?

The Aliens were one of the memorable random encounters from F2 (particularly as little green men are perfect 50s sci-fi material), so they put them in the new games as a callback. To be honest their only real mistake was taking people's enthusiasm for the Alien Blaster and crash site in F3 too seriously and making it into a DLC.

Well you are forgetting the clearly alien corpse that the Shi had before being stolen by the Hubologists; your probably going to say that it wasn't confirmed as an alien body but I would say that that's willful speculation. Besides, the WW trait does non-canonise the events.

The DLC was a mistake, the encounter was not. I do not think WW is supposed to be canon, just as the TARDIS isn't canon in the first game.

No Wild Wasteland encounters are canon. I mean, Indiana Jones in a fridge, the charred remains of Luke Skywalker's parents in Nipton, Holy Hand Grenades..?

What Alien corpses are you talking about? You have brought this up before. The Shi called Wanamingo, "aliens" and we know they arn't "space people."

Anyways it has been mentioned before by others. Wild Wasteland Encounter's arn't canon. They made them a trait so people will get the hint that they are just Easter Eggs. They are there for fun. Just like the crashed Federation Shuttle, Doctor Who and chrashed Alien ship in the Original Fallouts.

The one that weighs 75 and is in a fridge at the back of the Hubologist's Base.

I don't recall ever finding such a thing before at their base.

Still one only has to look at the nature of the Hubologists. Think about what group they are moking. Think about their belief.

Now think about how good it would be to have proof of their belief in a fridge to show people. It is most likely a fake.

"■The "Space Culture" doctrine of Hubology is similar to the advanced Scientology doctrine known as "Space Opera", which presents the belief that Earth (then known as "Teegeeack") was invaded thousands of years ago by an evil spacefaring alien named Lord Xenu who exterminated humanity's predecessors with nuclear bombs. However, the story was a fictional short story created by Hubbard."

You mean whales and geraniums don't just fall from the sky in the wasteland naturally?! Heh.

It's called 'Decomosing Body' and weighs 125. They stole it from the Shi's 'Xeno Program' which according to the Emperor, {182}{}{"The subject on which we had hoped to establish a series of meaningful experiments has disappeared, presumed either destroyed or stolen by the Hubologists. Further inquiries have proven fruitless. Until such time as further specimens are obtained, this database will remain inoperative." - Dr. Sheng}

To be far there are people *cough* Bethesda *cought* that did not have the brain power to tell that "alien encounters" in past Fallouts were just that easter eggs. Then they made a whole DLC based on easter eggs for Fallout 3. To me Mothership Zeta is nothing but one big easter egg.

Cause if Aliens are now apart of Canon then so is Dr.Who and Star Trek.

So you get Alien as in space person from "decomposing body." Xeno does not mean space people. Alien can also mean, strange, unknown, not of the norm. Why do people jump right to "space people?"

It could just be a decomposing FEV creature like a Wanamingo which the Shi called "Aliens" simply because the did not know what they hell they were!

It isn't a damn space alien. :stare:

Fine, upon playing the game again there - like I just did - I am in agreement with you; looks a lot like a Ghoul actually, where there any Ghouls in San Fran?

No there are no ghouls in San Francisco. Chances are they did not know what it was.

And skydiving whales, lets not forget that. I'm now tempted to learn enough modding to make a mod where if you have luck 1, at some point a giant whale will fall from the sky on top of you, killing you quite dead. Or you'll pass out in the wastes and wake up with a perk called 'probed'.

I'd be happy if Bethesda came out and said MZ wasn't canon.

Why did they even make it anyway? All those resources and time could have been spent on improving The Pitt and making it more of an amazing DLC than it already is.

*sigh* Oh Bethesda

Given the Alien encounter in F3 was also an easter egg originally...
It's just Bethesda's policy of listening to the fans, even when they say stupid things. They liked Liberty Prime and wanted to play after the main quest, we got Broken Steel (which was good, despite breaking the whole ending thing). They liked the alien encounter, we got Zeta (which was not so good).

In the case of Fallout 3 Bethesda should not have "listened to their fans" when it came to Fallout. Because may people did not know about Fallout in the first place. I guess that is how we ended up with Aliens. There are way more people that understand Fallout better now then before Fallout 3 came out.

The only thing I enjoyed about the Mothership Zeta DLC is that computer with the shadow government paranoia guy and his safe. I also liked the Operation:Anchorage doctor in the story. But I didnt care for the alien junk.