» Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:49 pm Hi,
I have experienced a few oddities during my play-through, and since they probably are a result of multiple mod interactions rather just one, I decided to make a new thread. It could be that a few of these questions are because of my lack of knowledge about the game or the mods I'm using, if it is so then please excuse the ignorance yet if you can provide assistance, I would be grateful.
1)HUD
First quirk is with HUD status bars and DarnUi, when I first load the game, the HUD status bars completely ignores Darn's changes and HUD elements just overlap, eventhough the mod says that it will automatically detect DarnUi.
Initial load
http://postimg.org/image/axza6zcir/
However, if I then reload the same save, it readjusts accordingly
Re-Load
http://postimg.org/image/rsfesoibl/
There must be another way than essentially loading the save twice to make HUD status bars recognize DarnUi.
2) Torches
Since I'm using OOO, I have DLT installed and I love it, however, there are a few things which I do not quite understand.
DLT and a normal torch: http://postimg.org/image/mp3ed0r57/
Only the one on the right is emitting any light, that is the DLT.
With DLT removed: http://postimg.org/image/av43q7qbd/
Additionally, when equipped, the DLT emits a lot more light compared to normal ones, I prefer the DLT light, because the normal one is too little especially with
Cava Obscura, so is there a way to make normal torches shine as bright and far as the DLT counterparts? Also the illumination staves added by OOO dim in comparison to the brightness of a DLT torch, so can they be beefed up too?
3) All natural - Real Lights
I liked the atmosphere this gave to dungeons, however, quite a lot of buildings became too dark, especially lower class tavern, where there are just candles, became so dark that I needed to use either a torch or a light spell, is that normal? For now I've disabled this module.
This is a bit too dark in the IC tavern, don't you think? - http://postimg.org/image/57ruegykd/
4) Prices, damage, items
Since I'm using FCOM, I assumed that all the items added by the mods will be somehow readjusted accordingly, in price, damage and so forth, and for the most case it is true, however, there are a few standout that I've encountered
How can an 'Iron bow' cost 11gp, while a 'Fine Iron bow' costs 100gp? http://postimg.org/image/3w5dxzb77/
Additionally isn't the 'Steel War Ax's' damage too low? Just 2 points.
And another quirk concerning spells. I've two ranged destruction spells of the same level (apprentice)
Their stats:
Flare 8pts for 1 sec, cost 21 (Fire damage)
Spark 12pts for 1 sec, cost 15 (Shock damage)
I do not find it logical that the weaker spell is the more expensive one. I use SM, however, I haven't tinkered with the ini too much, hence I thought that it should handle this sort of thing. Or is fire damage just more expensive in general?
And of course my load order:
Spoiler
00 Oblivion.esm01 Jog_X_Mod.esm02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]03 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 5.0]04 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 5.0]05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.35Beta]07 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.8b1]08 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm09 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]0A Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]0B MD_Saddle_Master.esm0C Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.3.3]0D Fundament.esm [Version ision]0E CM Partners.esm0F SDR.esm [Version 7.2.0]10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.4]11 UOPS Additional Changes.esp12 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp13 DLCShiveringIsles.esp14 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.2]++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp15 Better Cities .esp [Version 5.3.0]16 Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp [Version 5.0]17 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp [Version 5.0]18 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]19 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp [Version 5.0]1A Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp [Version 5.0]++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]1B FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]++ LoadingScreens.esp1C LoadingScreensAddOn.esp1D All Natural.esp [Version 1.34]1E All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34]++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]1F Atmospheric Oblivion.esp20 Distant Chapel Bells.esp21 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34]22 WindowLightingSystem.esp23 ChallangingThieveryNoHouseAdditions.esp24 RealDaysAndMonths.esp25 Camping.esp26 RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7]27 SkinMannequinVan.esp28 VAs Better Gold with no Menu Icon.esp29 Walk to Oblivion - OBSE.esp2A Willful Resistance.esp2B Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]2C Crowded Roads Advanced less crowded.esp [Version 1.3]2D Choices and Consequences.esp [Version 2.02]2E DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp2F Immersive Combat Music.esp [Version 1.00]30 kuerteeCleanUp.esp31 Streamline 3.1.esp32 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]33 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]34 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]35 DLCHorseArmor.esp36 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]37 DLCOrrery.esp38 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]39 DLCVileLair.esp3A DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]3B DLCMehrunesRazor.esp3C DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]3D DLCSpellTomes.esp++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]3E Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp3F Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs.esp++ Better Unique Items.esp40 MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp41 MD Saddlebags v3.0 Alternative Trader Script.esp42 DLCThievesDen.esp43 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]44 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.11]45 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp46 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]47 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]48 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp49 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]4A Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.09]4B FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]4C Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.35Beta]++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]++ Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - No Daedric Items.esp4D OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]++ Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs - Armamentarium piggyback.esp4E Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.8b1]4F FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]++ FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp [Version 0.9.9]50 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8]51 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]52 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.8b1]++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]53 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.8b1]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.8b1]54 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.8b1]55 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.8b1]56 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.8b1]57 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b7]58 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b7]59 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.8b1]5A Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.8b1]++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp [Version 0.9.9]5B FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp [Version 2]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Wisp and VASE Addon.esp [Version 3.8b1]5C Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp [Version 3.8b1]++ Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp5D FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ MMM4OOO&FCOM- Slofs Horse & DLC Armor.esp++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.8b1]++ ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]++ ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]5E LoadingScreens-OOO.esp5F Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.21]++ NoDaedricQuestLevelLocks.esp60 Kragenir's Death Quest.esp [Version 2.13]61 OldCrowInn.esp62 LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.6]63 KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp64 Lynges_Absolute_Freedom-9880.esp65 Lynges_Dark_Brotherhood_Assassins-8654.esp++ Shady Sam Enhanced.esp66 thievery.esp67 thievery - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]68 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp [Version 5.3.0]69 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.5.6]6A Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 3.0.5]6B 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp6C DLCBattlehornCastle.esp6D DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]6E DLCFrostcrag.esp6F DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]70 BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp [Version 1.0.1]71 Knights.esp72 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.3]73 SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.30]74 TOTF.esp++ TOTF Delayer.esp75 RTT.esp76 Mighty Umbra.esp77 Blood&Mud.esp78 Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]79 The Lost Spires.esp++ The Lost Spires v14 Delayer.esp [Version 3.1]7A Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp7B MannimarcoRevisited.esp7C MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]7D FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]++ FCOM_Ruin.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9]7E DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.1]7F Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]80 ReclaimSancreTor.esp [Version 1.0.5]81 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0]82 ROC+DBC Patch.esp [Version 1.0]83 MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp84 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.5]++ HeartOftheDeadv6.5 Delayer.esp [Version 3.1]85 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]86 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp87 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]88 xulTheHeath.esp89 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]8A xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]8B LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp8C xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]8D ThievesGrotto-ColovianHighlands patch.esp8E xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3]8F xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]90 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5]91 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3]92 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]93 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]94 ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 1.0]95 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]96 RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp [Version 1.1]97 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]98 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]99 HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp9A xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]9B xulPantherRiver.esp9C Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp9D xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]9E xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]9F xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]A0 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1]A1 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]A2 Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.espA3 TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.espA4 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3]A5 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]A6 RST+Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 1.1]A7 ROC+RST+Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 1.0]A8 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5]A9 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.1]AA xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3]AB OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.2]AC MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.0]AD RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp [Version 1.2]AE xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4]AF Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]B0 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2]B1 OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0]B2 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.1.1]B3 ROC+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp [Version 1.0]B4 DarkBrotherhoodChronicles-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp [Version 1.1]B5 KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp [Version 2.0]B6 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]B7 RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.1]B8 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]B9 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]BA Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]BB Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5]BC Banes Diverse Guards.espBD Banes Guilds UnitedOOO.espBE Banes Guilds United CandC patch.esp++ Banes Guilds United BrumaGuild patch.espBF Cliff_BetterLetters.esp [Version 1.2]C0 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2]C1 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.espC2 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]++ PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp [Version 1.2]C3 kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.espC4 SkycaptainsBloodTime.espC5 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]C6 ATakesAll.espC7 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp [Version 5.4.3]C8 RealisticFatigue.espC9 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.2.1]CA RealisticForceMedium.espCB RealisticMagicForceMedium.espCC Nekhanimal's Awesome Vampire Mod.espCD RefScope.esp [Version 2.1.2]CE SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]CF SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]D0 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]D1 Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.espD2 RshAlchemy.espD3 RshAlchemyRecipes.espD4 SM Bounty.esp [Version 1.22c]D5 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]D6 Armorer's Advantage.espD7 SM Hand Combat.esp [Version 1.0]D8 Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp [Version 7.1]D9 Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espDA Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp [Version 4]DB Duke Patricks - Smash of the Titans.espDC BFG's Enhanced Armory.espDD Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.espDE SniperSneakSkillup.espDF nGCD.espE0 nGCD Oghma Infinium.espE1 Nanite's Legendary Alchemy.esp** Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp** Cava Obscura - SI.esp** Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]++ Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp [Version 0.78]++ Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp [Version 0.78]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.8b1]E2 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.0]E3 TRAP.espE4 Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp [Version 5.3.0]E5 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp [Version 5.3.0]E6 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.3.0]E7 Better Cities - All Natural.espE8 Better Cities - Dark Brotherhood Chronicles.espE9 Better Cities - 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Horses.espF4 Lynges_Claws_Of_The_Grey_Lady-8768.espF5 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
