[elliot mudd]

Is caused by nostalgia.

If you could wipe the tears from your eyes and enjoy the game for what it is without all of these comparisons to older games, you would probably realize that it's the best Elder Scrolls.

In fact, I think some of you complain and compare, just because you have nobody to talk to and you want to let everyone know that you've played the older games.

Yeah. ^_^ I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

[Mandy Muir]

Well it was a great game until they released a patch that makes it crash every 10 minutes and prohibits the only way we can stabilise it.

[Cameron Wood]

I disagree. Some of it is from nostalgia. Some of it is from legitimate design problems with the game. No comparisons needed. Like the UI.

[FLYBOYLEAK]

Comparing Morrowind to Skyrim is unfair. Morrowind was strictly tailored with the PC in mind, whereas Skyrim is a multi-platform game.

Nobody does the open-world genre better than Bethesda, and Skyrim is no exception. Even with some flaws, the game is a masterpiece with so much worthwhile content stuffed in.

Playing it on PC, I've been using the FXAA post-processing injector so the game looks freaking great IMO.

[Ebony Lawson]

People have the right to express their point of view. Apparently this point of view is called complaining to some. It's a public forum. Get over it already.

[james reed]

If you could wipe the tears from your eyes and enjoy the game for what it is without all of these comparisons to older games, you would probably realize that it's the best Elder Scrolls.

Excuse me while I try to understand how I can rate this the best in the series without considering the other games in the series.

[Czar Kahchi]

It's just the nature of a game launch that has some amount of expectation surrounding it. The first few days are the worst as the people who love the game are playing the game and the people who don't flock to the forums. It peters out pretty quickly.

[joseluis perez]

Morrowinders are being trumped by the few, the proud, the Daggerfallers. I'm going to start talking about the good ol' days of Arena. 4 generations of dumbing down, and frankly, I'm tired of it.

[Campbell]

I disagree. Some of it is from nostalgia. Some of it is from legitimate design problems with the game. No comparisons needed. Like the UI.

You're probably a PC whiner. The UI is great for the consoles, or even if you're using an Xbox controller on the PC version.

[maddison]

Skyrim looks amazing and is fun as hell. Its a great game there is no question but its missing some great elements that oblivion had. Oblivon was missing some great elements that Morrowind had. The next in the series will be missing some things that Skyrim has and OP will be in here whining.

[Albert Wesker]

I ignore the complaining. This game is amazing. Yes I've had bugs on my 360 version and, yes, they're are sometimes annoying. But is doesn't change the fact that this is the best RPG I've ever played.

The same complaining happened on the Bungie forums when Halo: Reach was released.

[louise fortin]

Is caused by nostalgia.

If you could wipe the tears from your eyes and enjoy the game for what it is without all of these comparisons to older games, you would probably realize that it's the best Elder Scrolls.

In fact, I think some of you complain and compare, just because you have nobody to talk to and you want to let everyone know that you've played the older games.

Yeah. ^_^ I'm pretty sure that's what it is.

Sure it is nostalgia. Isn't that how anything gets compared by what you remember? The issue is if they could make characters/NPC feel alive in games like Morrowind, or Daggerfall or even other games out there from the early part of the 2000s or even the 90s. Why is that in 2011 with the superior hardware exponetially larger hard drives ( I remember honestly believing I would never fill up a 1 gig drive) does all the feeling and depth get left out of the games. That is what people are wanting. Games back on the consoles with such limited hard drive space had more depth then what we have no. Take most of the Final Fantasy games. You had a PS1 memory card that held what 8 mb?

I knew people that would go nuts if that become corrupted or lost. Why? Because of all the time and work they had put into the games. Earning the best items in the game meant something. Now because of games like WoW and a lot of the more recent FPS games publishers only care about the bottom line and how many people they can get the game out to. They would rather cut corners and take out content and substance to simple make money. Before games become such a large industry people actually cared about the overall quality.

I know a lot people that would just as much fun to throw in a copy of Super Mario Brothers on the NES and would have a blast for hours simple because the gameplay was good, design was near perfect really, and until you really played it over and over and over it was a challenge. Now it's all they need to be able to sit down, and be lead around the game world, and you have to be able to beat it in under 20 hours. Yes there are a couple expections to the 20 hour thing, but most games out there if they are longer then 10 hours people are impressed. Which is just down right pathetic.

[Lakyn Ellery]

You're probably a PC whiner. The UI is great for the consoles, or even if you're using an Xbox controller on the PC version.

And this is problem. People cutting corners. You know the game is going to be released on all platforms. Take the time to make a UI that actually works for the PC. This is what people use to do when they weren't worried simply about the bottom line. If you remember back 10 years ago for a game like Madden. It would come out in August for the consoles and mid Oct or so I think for the PC. They would go back and re tool stuff that needed to be changed. Now it's just oh this doesn't really work but we can port so lets just do that.

[Guinevere Wood]

And this is problem. People cutting corners. You know the game is going to be released on all platforms. Take the time to make a UI that actually works for the PC. This is what people use to do when they weren't worried simply about the bottom line. If you remember back 10 years ago for a game like Madden. It would come out in August for the consoles and mid Oct or so I think for the PC. They would go back and re tool stuff that needed to be changed. Now it's just oh this doesn't really work but we can port so lets just do that.

Just blame ZeniMax Media (Parent company to Bethesda Game Studios) for wanting the game to release on the historic 11-11-11. The whole system is obviously going to be fixed in a future patch. The PC port was just a little rushed. Don't forget about the fact that PCs get the mods. Surely there is already a quick fix while you wait on Bethesda.

[JLG]

I'm convinced the reason games aren't as complex as they used to be is because Bethesda, among others, is finding that more people complain about hair not waving in the wind or troubles distinguishing wood from leather at a distance than do about not being able to ask your followers what they want to do next. With only so many resources to devote to a game, game developers naturally follow the market and make sure animations are up to snuff!

[Austin England]

I agree a little about the UI. Not the greatest UI for the PC version, but I can live with it.

One problem I'm having is I can't even reassign keys without major issues, like the ability to drop items when needed. I hope they patch it soon.

[John Moore]

Sure it is nostalgia. Isn't that how anything gets compared by what you remember? The issue is if they could make characters/NPC feel alive in games like Morrowind, or Daggerfall or even other games out there from the early part of the 2000s or even the 90s. Why is that in 2011 with the superior hardware exponetially larger hard drives ( I remember honestly believing I would never fill up a 1 gig drive) does all the feeling and depth get left out of the games. That is what people are wanting. Games back on the consoles with such limited hard drive space had more depth then what we have no. Take most of the Final Fantasy games. You had a PS1 memory card that held what 8 mb?

I knew people that would go nuts if that become corrupted or lost. Why? Because of all the time and work they had put into the games. Earning the best items in the game meant something. Now because of games like WoW and a lot of the more recent FPS games publishers only care about the bottom line and how many people they can get the game out to. They would rather cut corners and take out content and substance to simple make money. Before games become such a large industry people actually cared about the overall quality.

I know a lot people that would just as much fun to throw in a copy of Super Mario Brothers on the NES and would have a blast for hours simple because the gameplay was good, design was near perfect really, and until you really played it over and over and over it was a challenge. Now it's all they need to be able to sit down, and be lead around the game world, and you have to be able to beat it in under 20 hours. Yes there are a couple expections to the 20 hour thing, but most games out there if they are longer then 10 hours people are impressed. Which is just down right pathetic.

I don't know how people could say that NPCs felt more alive in past Elder Scrolls games, I've played Morrowind and most people just stood around and just like in Skyrim they say a lot of the same things. The world does feel a bit more a live now with the way other characters do things around town and I see them working or sweeping and kids running around.

[Rebecca Dosch]

You're probably a PC whiner. The UI is great for the consoles, or even if you're using an Xbox controller on the PC version.

The game is awful with a controller IMO.

[Antony Holdsworth]

The game is awful with a controller IMO.

There are no suitable human words to formulate a response to this...

[Anna Kyselova]

There are no suitable human words to formulate a response to this...

FUS RO DAH!

[Melis Hristina]

We don't allow "complaining about the complainers" thread - as you can see, they're rarely productive.

Just blame ZeniMax Media (Parent company to Bethesda Game Studios)

Just FYI - Zenimax was founded in 1999 by some of the founders of Bethesda. It was created so that Bethesda could branch out into acquiring other IPs and into other media. They're often mistaken as some monolithic force that swallowed up Bethesda - however this is not the case. (Personally, I think it's because it's got one of those names - "Zenimax." Sounds kind of big and ominous...)