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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:01 am

Yes to two, other for six and Homosixuality.


I don't mind six in games, but I would prefer for it to not be one of tghe main goals or all over the place. Im talking about Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age.

I feel developers can spend more time on the story and gameplay with all the time they spend developing the sixual relations of characters in the game. So basically what im saying is, keep it at a minmum.

And as for homosixuality. Im fine with that to, just as long as A. Its not one of the developers sole focuses, and B. There's actually reasoning to it instead of jst, "THEY DO IT CUS ITS HAWT."

Apparently persona 3 does homosixuality well. I don tplay games for things related to six (dont see the point) and dont play rpgs so cant comment further.


Must be the 1st time but I agree with you on this :P

:lol:
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:09 pm

Yes
Yes
Yes
No


Care to give a reason?
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:05 pm

Nudity: Who doesn't like eye candy? It can also set the mood for people who need visuals to play thier games and not use thier imagination.

six: While I don't care for it, I will not say that it shouldn't be in a game. Why DA:O does this, I have no idea, again, I can't play it because of my kids, so not sure if they did it correctly or not. If the story is written well and it's part of the story, they yes, why not, but like in movies, there is six and nudity in the film that serves no purpose at all just to titilate and give the person cheep thrills. I was watching Battlestar Galactica the Remade series and it is an awsome series, no nudity. Then the last episode I believe they had some nudity and six, and while it added to the atmoshpere, I felt it wasn't really needed and it could have been kept out.

That is like saying Star Trek or Star Wars you have nudity and six scenes, it is just not needed.

Drugs: Again, if the story warrents it, then why not. The way Morrowind did it, was ok, it added the crime feel to it, and it wasn't over the top.

Homosixuality: Now this is where my ignorance comes in. Why would you just say Homosixuality? Isn't that just male with male. What about lisbianism? Female with Female. How come you say one and not the other? Now what about the others as well? Transgendered, and hermaphrodites? How come you are not including them as well? What about hetrosixuales? How come you are excluding all others? If you are going to include one, then you need to include them all. Again, something that is not needed in a video game.

Just like making a movie, if the story warrents it, then yes, they all could be included. To me, though when people say they need Homosixuality in a game, is just screaming, "Look here, we have homosixuality in our games" Then agian, maybe DA:O did it correctly, since I haven't really herd anything about it. I am surprised the news outlets didn't jump on this... so it all depends.

Does it warrent it? Does it convey and make the story better? Do you get more enjoyment more from it? In almost 99% of games, I would say, we don't need any of it, but if it's set for the proper audience, then yes, it can be in there.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:15 pm


Homosixuality: Now this is where my ignorance comes in. Why would you just say Homosixuality? Isn't that just male with male. What about lisbianism? Female with Female. How come you say one and not the other? Now what about the others as well? Transgendered, and hermaphrodites? How come you are not including them as well? What about hetrosixuales? How come you are excluding all others? If you are going to include one, then you need to include them all. Again, something that is not needed in a video game.


Homosixuality is just 2 people of the same gender, it means m/m and f/f.

i think hetros were left out because its considered more "normal", homosixuality is a pretty controversial topic especially in places like America.

I think trans would be odd in a game, though I would love to see it if it turned out someone like Miranda from ME2 used to be some guy. The look on peoples faces :rofl:
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:41 am

Homosixuality is just 2 people of the same gender, it means m/m and f/f.

i think hetros were left out because its considered more "normal", homosixuality is a pretty controversial topic especially in places like America.

I think trans would be odd in a game, though I would love to see it if it turned out someone like Miranda from ME2 used to be some guy. The look on peoples faces :rofl:


I think Shepard would have noticed it :P
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:07 pm

There's actually reasoning to it instead of jst, "THEY DO IT CUS ITS HAWT."

Like virtually every videogame depiction of a "relationship" ever?
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:39 pm

Care to give a reason?

I really don't want to spoil this for everyone else by getting the topic locked.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:55 pm

As long as it's in context, I don't care what they put in games.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:05 pm

I really don't want to spoil this for everyone else by getting the topic locked.


You could always PM me?...
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:48 am

I voted yes on all of them. I am a firm believer in the First Amendment (United States) and outlawing any of those would violate that amendment. Even though some of those things you listed make me cringe with "Why would anyone want to play that?" attitude.

Kind of like in Mass Effect or Dragon Age. While not as bad in Mass Effect, Dragon Age feels like its forcing you into a "love interest" scenario. To me it adds absolutely nothing to the game and can be done without.

I just want to kill the bad guys and save the world without some inept Elf assassin coming on to my Dwarf Noble Warrior in a completely obvious and facepalm way. Seriously.
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:30 am

I fully support all of it but ofcause it depends on the game. six and nudity makes perfectly sense in games like Mass Effect and Heavy Rain but i wouldn't want to see it in Super Mario Bros... well maybe but i also have a pretty sick sense of humor. :laugh:

I prefer when it's done tastefully and make sense though. I think the love scene in Mass Effect was beautiful and wouldn't have complained if it was even longer and a little more craphic but on the other hand i think the six minigame in God of War was childish and amateurish, though i do respect any developer who actually has the guts to include nudity in their games.

And why would anyone vote no to homosixuality in games unless they are homophobes or simply don't think that romance and love has anything to do in any kind of games.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:35 pm

Artistic nudity, okay. Erotica nudity, no thanks. I'm not playing a video game for an erotic/sixually arousing experience, and I don't want the game to try to do that.

No six (as an explicitly shown activity). My view is that private life should be kept private. It is an intimate moment between two people, and in my opinion, making it a public spectacle is cheapening (on the other side, is it really that interesting to watch two people hump each other?). I, personally, would not play a game that included an unavoidable/unskippable explicit six scene. Okay, unless it was awesome otherwise, then I guess I'd just turn off my TV screen or PC monitor.

Drugs... yes but only if realistically portrayed, with all negative side effects and consequences incorporated into gameplay mechanics. For example, I don't like how in Bioshock smoking a pack of cigarettes was a way to increase your EVE supply.

Homosixuality... fine. As long as six, too, is not portrayed in the game, then I don't really see why not. :shrug:
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:28 pm

All "other". It should only be in if it fits, not shoehorned in or done as fan service.
And most of the time, those things tend to not work in the context of the game, and end up looking shoehorned, fan serviced, or extremely awkward that just makes the game look like that really awkward kid sitting next to you in class, talking about his weird fantasies, and you just want to either kick him or quietly move to the next room and shower away the shame that you are now covered in.

But lets face it, how often have those things listed there been treated..well...decently? There's a few games that pull it off, but there's a few and far between the other stuff out there. Hell, the only time the subject of homosixuality was done well, of the games that I played, was with Arcade in New Vegas (who I didn't even know was gay), and Kanji Tatsumi in Persona 4. Nudity? Only the Witcher at times, and it did not shy away from having naked, obese, gray wicked witch of the west looking monsters, or the vampires looking..well..not very pretty. six? All iterations of it has been pretty much the first paragraph. And don't say ME. If anything, that's a giant offender when it comes to that issue, and boy, is it awkward. I felt I needed to shower and scrub my skin off repeatedly.

The only thing on the list that is often done decently is drugs.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:30 pm

that really awkward kid sitting next to you in class, talking about his weird fantasies


I don't have one of those in my class :huh:
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:47 am

I don't have one of those in my class :huh:

I'll be there first thing tomorrow. :geek:
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:41 am

I don't have one of those in my class :huh:
Okay, I didn't cover all my bases, sue me. Err, wait, don't.
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:57 am

Nudity: Who doesn't like eye candy? It can also set the mood for people who need visuals to play thier games and not use thier imagination.

six: While I don't care for it, I will not say that it shouldn't be in a game. Why DA:O does this, I have no idea, again, I can't play it because of my kids, so not sure if they did it correctly or not. If the story is written well and it's part of the story, they yes, why not, but like in movies, there is six and nudity in the film that serves no purpose at all just to titilate and give the person cheep thrills. I was watching Battlestar Galactica the Remade series and it is an awsome series, no nudity. Then the last episode I believe they had some nudity and six, and while it added to the atmoshpere, I felt it wasn't really needed and it could have been kept out.

That is like saying Star Trek or Star Wars you have nudity and six scenes, it is just not needed.

Drugs: Again, if the story warrents it, then why not. The way Morrowind did it, was ok, it added the crime feel to it, and it wasn't over the top.

Homosixuality: Now this is where my ignorance comes in. Why would you just say Homosixuality? Isn't that just male with male. What about lisbianism? Female with Female. How come you say one and not the other? Now what about the others as well? Transgendered, and hermaphrodites? How come you are not including them as well? What about hetrosixuales? How come you are excluding all others? If you are going to include one, then you need to include them all. Again, something that is not needed in a video game.

Just like making a movie, if the story warrents it, then yes, they all could be included. To me, though when people say they need Homosixuality in a game, is just screaming, "Look here, we have homosixuality in our games" Then agian, maybe DA:O did it correctly, since I haven't really herd anything about it. I am surprised the news outlets didn't jump on this... so it all depends

Does it warrent it? Does it convey and make the story better? Do you get more enjoyment more from it? In almost 99% of games, I would say, we don't need any of it, but if it's set for the proper audience, then yes, it can be in there.

Actually to me homosixuality covers both sides of the coin if I offended I apologize now as it was done from ignorance not from anything else.
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:00 am

I voted yes to 'em all. Let me ask you, why not? Why not allow these things? If you don't like it, don't play it. If you don't want your kids to see it, don't let them see it (Though that may be harder said then done as anybody who has played video games as kids my be able to attest to).

The fact is, nobody is forcing these things on you. There are movies with homosixuals, violence, six and drugs in them, sometimes all at once. Do we complain about those? Yes, yes we do, but they are still more accepted then video games. Why? I think it's because a lot of people still think of video games as being a media specifically for young people/children, when the fact is that that is not the case. At all.

Just as there are violent, drug-fueled, orgyfests between member of the same six in movies there will be in games. It all comes around to the simple act of avoiding what you don't like. Lot's of people do it, just ask the school bully. ;)
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:30 am

For example, I don't like how in Bioshock smoking a pack of cigarettes was a way to increase your EVE supply.

But eve isnt real so not an issue, besides it decreaesed health.
SR2 you cold drink and smoke drugs, it would make the screen blurry. Reminds me of that terrible mission where you fight that green gang.

But you cant really incorperate drugs into games, however I would like there to be a ingame drug that adds halucinations, it would be a good challenge, imagine seeing several enemeis rushing you, are they real or fake ?


And most of the time, those things tend to not work in the context of the game, and end up looking shoehorned, fan serviced, or extremely awkward that just makes the game look like that really awkward kid sitting next to you in class, talking about his weird fantasies, and you just want to either kick him or quietly move to the next room and shower away the shame that you are now covered in.

True. I honestly dont think I have ever played a game where it worked well...
Hmm nope.
But yeah I dont see romances as a good thing, look at BW romance for example, speak 3 times and have six to get an achivement, I dont see ow people care the Tali thrread had "OVER 9000" (I am serious) pages iirc.
Then other boast about deep characters, now to me the deepes are Ashley and Mordin. Both had conflict, Ashley didnt trust aliens, but at the same time she didnt outright hate them. I found that good, but as a romance she fails like the rest.
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:53 am

Actually to me homosixuality covers both sides of the coin if I offended I apologize now as it was done from ignorance not from anything else.


It does. Homosixual is either for m/m or f/f, so not your ignorance :)
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:11 pm

But you cant really incorperate drugs into games, however I would like there to be a ingame drug that adds halucinations, it would be a good challenge, imagine seeing several enemeis rushing you, are they real or fake ?

Fallout did.
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True. I honestly dont think I have ever played a game where it worked well...
Hmm nope.
But yeah I dont see romances as a good thing, look at BW romance for example, speak 3 times and have six to get an achivement, I dont see ow people care the Tali thrread had "OVER 9000" (I am serious) pages iirc.
Then other boast about deep characters, now to me the deepes are Ashley and Mordin. Both had conflict, Ashley didnt trust aliens, but at the same time she didnt outright hate them. I found that good, but as a romance she fails like the rest.
Well I'm glad someone else agrees that BW's grasp on "romance" is, well, swallow, and that's as much sugar coating I'll give it.
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:32 am

Fallout did.

I mean realistically, having all the effects.
Most would think its a waste of time anyway.

Well I'm glad someone else agrees that BW's grasp on "romance" is, well, swallow, and that's as much sugar coating I'll give it.

I just dont see it adding anything to the game. I cant say it adds character depth either, maybe it will for certain character I havent romanced, but for example in ME1 Liara was jsut the damsel, fainting, always leading the converstion to six, ME2 Tali is our typical techgeek, who suddenly is obsessed with shepard (the fact they changed quarians kinda shows its fanservice if the romance wanst enough proof) so imo its just bad.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:04 pm

I just dont see it adding anything to the game. I cant say it adds character depth either, maybe it will for certain character I havent romanced, but for example in ME1 Liara was jsut the damsel, fainting, always leading the converstion to six, ME2 Tali is our typical techgeek, who suddenly is obsessed with shepard (the fact they changed quarians kinda shows its fanservice if the romance wanst enough proof) so imo its just bad.
But the priiize. Also, try it with Garrus. If you don't turn red with embarrassment, then you just may be one of the most shameless people ever.
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Post » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:26 am

But the priiize. Also, try it with Garrus. If you don't turn red with embarrassment, then you just may be one of the most shameless people ever.

They ruined garrus in ME2. Where did the human fetish come from, hell who even thought he was attractive ? Turians dont look remotely human.
And I know how bad garrus romance is, because when he isnt doing calibrations, he is savoring the last shot before poping the heatsink.
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