argonians due to the brokenness that is mysticism.

Definitely the Dunmer. They suit my play style much better, which is a more straight forward approach with magic integrated but not major, and seem to be more hardy folk. From the aesthetics side, I also prefer the dark skin/red eyes combo to the yellow of the Altmer. Though, in game I tend to pick Bosmer more than these due to their greater excellence at stealth and marksmanship.

Altmer, they are smart and highly magical, there's nothing that can't be stopped with the right spell.

This.
Altmer are extremely powerful mages, who are very intelligent. Example: Psijic Order.
Plus, the Altmer homeland conquered Valenwood, while the Dunmer Homeland was conquered by Argonians, who don't seem like the all-out war type of race.

Telvanni > all else.
So I voted Dunmer. However, I think it would be a very even match. The Altmer have more magicka, but the Dunmer are more resilient, more well rounded, and come on, we have Divayth Fyr (sp?).

If we're talking about average Dunmer vs average Altmer, I would say Dunmer since the High Elves have so many weakness (both physical and magical) and the Dunmer is more balance overall.

But if we're talking elite here, then the Altmer would probably have the advantage. There's a spell for everything, you know?

Dunmer, they good at magick and combat. Altmer are only good at magick.

Dunmer, definetly. I tend to use blade, bow and magic at once, so obviously they would be my favorite. I sneak attack witha bow, then switch to a longsword(hotkeyd) and attack with that and "on touch" destruction spells. It also has something to do with the fact that that was the first race i've ever played, and i got all the way to level 50 or something. Whenever i play any other race, it doesnt feel right to me. i just hope that dunmer are the same in skyrim as they were in oblivion. bliviongate:

Going to have to say dunmer. A dunmer has to deal with more [NUMMIT] a day than 1000 altmer will in their lifetime. It's the difference between living in a constantly assaulted, ash blasted, extremely weird country, and living in a tropical paradise. The former makes you tough, the latter makes you a lazy and bitter magic user who whines and moans all day.

Seems the general consensus is Dunmer Master Race.

I'm okay with this.

Well Bosmer are more interesting than both of course
but for those obsessed with the less interesting Mer it has to be Dunmer of course for the background presented in MW
Maybe if we had a TES set in the Summerset Isles we'd have more reason to be interested in the fairly bland (at least from in-game info) Altmer
but still Bosmer are more interesting

This

You fail to take into account of the Tribunal

ive loved dark elves since arena thank you. and your not cool by saying hurp durp

yeeeah...no. I'm not a fan of either mer, but I will tip my hat for the crap the dunmer face in their daily lives. They survive as a civilization, despite it being completely flooded at one point, invaded by Akavir, having Red Mountain explode before what happened in the book, had Mehrunes Dagon go on a rampage, emperor Reman invaded it and thinned their numbers quite a lot, constantly have to live in ash blasted parts, had to put up with Blight for a long time, left Summerset willingly and was temporarily stopped by Trinimac, and were constantly raided by nords on their western borders.

The only thing the altmer have to deal with is if their tropical paradise will be shady or sunny on any given day. The only reason why they been able to remain isolated for so long was due to the Psijjics. If anything, getting their asses handed to them by Tiber Septim using the Numidium was the best thing to happen to them.

As much as I like Altmer, a dunmer would kick their ass any day. High elves have painted themselves in a corner so to speak by being adept ONLY at magic; one silence effect and they're screwed. Dunmer can use a wide range of weapons, thus can adapt to whatever the battle throws at them, thus have the upper hand beginning to end.

Of course this is assuming the two are evenly matched; throw a dunmer farmer in with a psijic and you'd get different results entirely. xP

To be fair, it's more like the Unibunal now. Two are dead, and the only one who is alive is missing.

But yes, I prefer the Dunmer too. With the Dunmer, you can create a diverse number of character builds, due to the fact that they can easily play warriors, mages or rogues. Well, not as easily as a race specialised in either, but easily enough. The Altmer on the other hand, have an extreme specialisation with magika. It's not impossible to have an Altmer warrior, but it's much harder. I'm going to go with the guess that an Altmer rogue would be impossible though, due to the yellow glare giving them away when they're sneaking.

I also love the Dunmer culture and lore, which, as previously mentioned, is an unfair advantage granted by Morrowind. We've had a TES game that specifically focuses on the Dunmer as a race. If TES: VI was in the Summerset Isles, I'm sure the Altmer would seem more interesting (but I doubt I'd change my mind personally).

I think people are forgetting something about Altmer.

Altmer aren't only adept at magic, a Dunmer can be adept at magic, a Breton can be adept at magic, but an Altmer, can be Godlike at magic. People are assuming you'd ever get the chance to silence someone who's natural call is magic, who's battled with magic, against magic, all his life. It's sounds exactly like something an arrogant dunmer would expect, "pfff, I'll just silence him, this will be over in no time". An Altmer has several weaknesses, and it's because of this that he will win, he knows exactly what the dunmer will go after even before the battle is has even begun, and he's smart enough to come prepared for exactly that. The Dunmer is gonna do what he usual does, he's gonna waltz in thinking he owns the place, because he's dunmer! how could he possible lose! he's gonna underestimate his opponent, and chances are he's gonna die horribly.

The dark side of the force is strong with you young one....

a Dunmer does high level fire spell wouldn't kill an altmer in one hit due to high willpower so combats your best bet that is which unlike the orcs dunmer would be easilly paralyzed then finished of with a high level thunder spell.

this thread only showed me biased and gave me a bad impression on the general consensus of the forum all in all *cough* Morrowind Fan boys added with the fact that dunmer are the most played race in TES you get a pretty boring to read article on how people gave little evidence and misguided fallacies on something they didn't even think about maybe rohugh should close this thread.

I love the Altmer. I don't understand the obsession with the Dunmer. I mean purple skin and red eyes just seems really lame to me. Reminds me of what I don't like about high fantasy, ala Robert Jordan novels (gaaah can't believe I read 4 of the wheel of time books).

I'm more of a George R R Martin kinda guy.

Wow I'm off topic, woopsies.

I vote for Altmer (which is no way caused by the fact that my favorite character I made in Oblivion was Altmer :whistling: )

The Dunmer have Divayth Fyr. 'Nuff said.

Altmer masters of magic what ever they lack in fighting skill they can use magic to boost cant beat them they are potentially masters of everything

Not every Altmer is a master of magic.

Hey, this thread is still alive. I'll continue where I left then.



You're right. I should probably use a spoiler tag for my response though.


But more seriously, I consider the Tribunal as a rank higher than elite, more like legendary or something similar.
Just like I wouldn't consider a legendary general the same rank as an elite soldier.