Altmer... Love 'em or hate' em?

Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:32 am

Altmer are traditionally the best race in almost all TES games and Skyrim is no exception. The 50 Magicka bonus is like having five free levels.

No matter how good your character is and how many enchantments you stack, an Altmer could always outperform you because of this simple bonus.

No, it's not "like five free levels" The perks-on-level-up are worth far more than the piddly increase to stats, which can be rendered completely obsolete to a simple enchantment.

Sure, the Altmer racial bonus could save you an enchantment slot you'd otherwise spend on Magicka fortification and regen-enhancement, but that could be the same for every racial. You don't need a lot of enchantment slots to make a Breton almost completely immune to magic.

On the other hand, I can't find anything that functions like Khajiit Night-eye. Ergo, Khajiit are the best race, for having a truly irreplicable racial ability.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:58 pm

Love 'em. Anyone notice how much more they are talked about in negative terms when Skyrim came out? It's the Thalmor people have issues with yet they forget there are probably enough Altmer who would disagree with them. The Altmer are not all Thalmor and I'm certain not all Altmer are elitist snobs. Most Altmer NPCs seem okay enough.
That said it is fun to encounter or roleplay the elitist snob Altmer. They make for great characters but to say all of them are like that is too simplistic; even in a fantasy setting.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:43 am

On the other hand, I can't find anything that functions like Khajiit Night-eye. Ergo, Khajiit are the best race, for having a truly irreplicable racial ability.


Unless your using darker nights and dungeons mods every one gets night eye by default, Khajiit just get a power version of it that censors your screen...
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:10 am

I love our tall lanky cousins... with some fava beans and a nice chianti. Sure, they've got a bit of an attitude problem, but they usually mean well.

Ever read the in-game book "Dunmer of Skyrim" ?

Makes ya hate them even more.

I hate both the Dunmer and the Altmer ;-;


"Dunmer of Skyrim" makes me despise both the idiot Nords who believe that screed, and the loathsome Nords who wrote it.

The Nords are like the schoolyard bully who everyone else eventually gangs up on, and then they start crying about oppression.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 am

Ever read the in-game book "Dunmer of Skyrim" ?

Makes ya hate them even more.

I hate both the Dunmer and the Altmer ;-;

if only the nords took a page from the dwemer on how to deal with refugees.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:50 pm

I play them because I'm power hungry :flamethrower:
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:20 am

<_<

Everyone is jealous of the Dunmer. Altmer mages? We do it better. Argonian assassins? We do it better.

Though I will admit the Thalmor have awesome robes. They deserve that much credit.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:48 pm

Unless your using darker nights and dungeons mods every one gets night eye by default, Khajiit just get a power version of it that censors your screen...

Um... I find the game plenty dark enough at night/in dungeons on my screen, and I play on X-box. I think it's the players that have developed night-eye, not the characters.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:59 pm

I love the altmer. Its the thalmor I hate.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:48 am

No hate for the Altmer. Only for the Thalmor and the pathetic Empire that was nothing like it was in past games.

I don't hate imperials but I stab every Legion soldier I find. Same with the Thalmor.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:02 am

You mean as opposed to the humans' arrogance that's couched behind insincere modesty? I really don't get this, yes the Altmer come off as arrogant, but on closer inspection they have reasons to believe they are 'better', they have the longest natural lifespans, are masters of magic, and were the first civilized race and culture in Tamriel. Now compare that to humans, who's empire is basically a copy/paste of Altmer culture, used WMD to force provinces they couldn't otherwise conquer militarily into submission, have the gal to insist everyone (even the non-humans) should recognise and venerate the god of humans (Talos), believe they're the only force for civilization in Tamriel, get pissy when when elves think they're barbaric savages then turn around and in the height of hypocracy treat the beast races in the exact same manner. Hell the Nords' entire claim to being the best is largely based off the fact that Talos was one of them, despite the fact that in theory any member of any race could be Dragonborn.

TL;DR Humans=Manifest Destiny, which is pretty much the epitome of arrogance.


You see, thats it right there. THIS is why I hate Altmer and other races that use Magic.

Magic, whilst handy in many situations, is just another skill. Sure you can heal yourselves, sure you can throw fire balls and sure you can conjure slaves and weapons at anytime. BUT it is NOT the ultimate solution to every problem. And this is not just applied to Skyrim.

Okay, I admit, I am biased towards Nords, I love my Nordic brothers and sisters, we're warriors, we don't need Magic, we have our mettle, strength, the steel in our hands and the mead in our bellies. It's our way. We fight, we never retreat (Well I don't anyway), we wear armour and we're rugged, tough and boisterous.

I have NEVER, in any game (SP or MMO) been beaten by someone (NPC or PC in PvP) who wields magic, and I have never played someone who wields magic. Why not? Because I like to roleplay and I put a lot of myself in my characters. I don't use Magic in real life, If I did live in a world like Skyrim, I would use a sword, a shield, some armour, a few potions, a Bow and some arrows, and my courage and resolve to fight my fights. Yet I am willing to bet, some magic using Elf would think himself better than me because he can throw an Ice spike, and look down his pointy little beak at me. How do you expect people to react? Yes sir, no sir, three bags full of Frost salts sir? Someone who is proficient with weapons, physically powerful, proud of his heritage and of his adventures? If a mage approaches him and says 'Greetings warrior, how fare you. How about we share good storied and ale?'. You'll get a positive response. You approach a warrior, or assassin with 'You blade swingers are no match for a magic user, you're all inferior' (typical Altmer attitude), then your going to swiftly land on your back courtesy of a right hook, yeah you can heal and counter it with a fireball, but all you'll do is piss him off further and you'll end up dead. It's a known fact that most Magic users are so self assured of their own abilities that they sometimes forget that all it takes is one length of cold, sharp steel to end their life.

If mages are so 'superior' Why is it that in WoW the trade channel is full of mages spamming 'LF Tank for Onyxia raid'? If Skyrim ever became (and god forbid that it ever does) an MP game. then I guarantee us blade swingers will be sought after.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:58 pm

I'm pretty sure the Altmer in Skyrim are far from the physically weakest race, infact I'm pretty sure all Altmer are far from the weakest race.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:18 pm

The Altmer are the Noldor of the TES world... Knowladgable, crafty and good in a sticky situation... But at the end of the day, people wished they just stayed on thier Island.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:10 pm

Altmer are one of my favorite races. My Altmer character may be a tiny bit arrogant, but he really tries not to be and he certainly isn't with the Thalmor.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:19 pm

I play an altmer myself, but an anti Thalmor one. I'm a battlemage that will hope to fight for the empire, a non racist nation.

Man I HATE the Thalmor, they represent everything that is wrong with the Altmer race unfortunately.
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