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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:06 pm

Religion of the Hegemony:

The Hegemony has many religions but there are 2 main religions. Transidism and Christianity (Protestant and Roman Catholic). Among them, there are smaller religions like Judaism, Buddhism and Islam.

Transidims roots dates back to many tribes and newly formed independent religions from Northern Canada. Many had their own gods with their own history. When the Hegemony was formed, these religions became a part of the Hegemony. Transidism was not formed yet but would be in eventual time. Around 2252 a priest of Dowlas gathered a conglomeration of all the other priest of the many other religions, except Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and Judaism. He spoke of the combination of all of the small religions into one, which would mean the gods would be merged together. It took a while for an answer but many agreed and on that day Transidism was formed. It soon bore a resemblance of Greek Mythology as there was many gods. The followers of the smaller religions that formed became a part of Transidims and now rivaled in terms of Christianity. It became a large part of the Hegemony.

As for God, they believe that God created the Universe but left them to their own. It said that the creations of the other gods were other Humans who achieved a lot in the early life and ascended when they died. Unlike God, he has no qulams with Science. Many beleive that God created Humans to be the next gods for the other races in the future.

In the Hegemony there are many shrines located throughout the Hegemony.

There are 10 gods or Divines of Transidism but there numerous other Chthonic Deities, personified spirits and others. Each god has a dark side when angered at will be the reverse of their ideals:

Agenia:

The Goddess of Order and Law, Custom, and Judger of the Deceased. Depicted as a woman in robes covering her whole body with only her blue eyes showing, with a sword and a scale. When angered, she would represent Anarchism, and lawlessness and would be seen as beautiful figure, with scars all over the body with dark blades.

Ammuteseba:

God of War. He is highly worshipped in the Military. Depicted as an armored man, with a red beaming katana. When angered, will smite 1000 men of the Military with death for 7 days.

Eslesia:

Goddess of Hope, Dawn of the Sun, and Purity. Depicted as a beautiful woman in white robes. When angered is represent Hopelessness, Dawn of the Black Moon for a month, and Impure. Wears black robes, with a staff of the black moon, and black pure eyes.

Vaerminas:

Goddess of Memory, Time, fate, Scrying, and Dreams. Can change from Human to fog and Depicted as a white fog, or a woman with white pure eyes. When angered, would cause unbreakable nightmares that could drive a man crazy. Would be a dark fog, or a woman with dark eyes. It is said that Coalescence the 5th could be a reincarnation of Vaerminas.

Aidos:

God of Wisdom, Battle Strategy and Bravery. Represented as a man in formal battle uniform with a book. When angered, he is the God of Battle Strategy misfortune, less intelligence and reverse of bravery. Depicted as dark ethereal ghost with a tri shaped mask. Aurodium the 4th is said to be a reincarnation of Aidos.

Gaden:

God of Agriculture, Horticulture and Grain of Harvest. Looks like a man with robes and a circlet. When angered, would cause crop failures.

Azathoth:

God of the Underworld and ruler of it. He already represent the negative side but only shows it when it’s necessary. Depicted as a man in black robes.

Meridia:

Goddess of Science, and Medicine. Seen as a young woman with mechanical goggles, and a contempt face. When angered, would cause health failures and scientific disasters.

Namira:

Goddess of Love. Depicted as a beautiful woman. When angered, would cause STD’s (LOL), breakups infidelity.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:20 am

Should we start posting timelines? Also whats the time-gap going to be? One year?
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:57 am

Should we start posting timelines? Also whats the time-gap going to be? One year?

Yeah, and how do I fit into this? How often are the time-spans between each Convention usually?
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:44 pm

Yeah, and how do I fit into this? How often are the time-spans between each Convention usually?

Well... and this is just my suggestion, but I would just put on your timeline anything major that happened during said period of time. Usually, the time skip is in one year increments, though we have been known to skip a bit farther along. Though my money on this one is one year like normal.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:23 pm

Well... and this is just my suggestion, but I would just put on your timeline anything major that happened during said period of time. Usually, the time skip is in one year increments, though we have been known to skip a bit farther along. Though my money on this one is one year like normal.
Hmm... okay. I'm just wondering how it might affect other people, you know the largest naval fleet one could imagine, and from an unknown origin, takes over the Caribbean isn't something that isn't addressed until the next national gathering. I was going to wait and see what other people thought.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:46 pm

Hmm... okay. I'm just wondering how it might affect other people, you know the largest naval fleet one could imagine, and from an unknown origin, takes over the Caribbean isn't something that isn't addressed until the next national gathering.

From a RP standpoint, you may want to have the appearance of the British Navy be towards the end of the year time-gap, since then it would make more sense for it to be addressed primarily at the national gathering.

However, that's usually how we handle things regardless (waiting to the next convention that is). Unless its agreed upon in the last convention, you can't really have ad-hoc negotiations in the in-between time. If you invade a NPC nation for instance in the first week after a convention, then unless the response is obvious, other nations will have to wait to remark on that until the next convention.

Just the nature of the RP.
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From a RP standpoint, you may want to have the appearance of the British Navy be towards the end of the year time-gap, since then it would make more sense for it to be addressed primarily at the national gathering.

However, that's usually how we handle things regardless (waiting to the next convention that is). Unless its agreed upon in the last convention, you can't really have ad-hoc negotiations in the in-between time. If you invade a NPC nation for instance in the first week after a convention, then unless the response is obvious, other nations will have to wait to remark on that until the next convention.

Just the nature of the RP.
Thats kind of what I meant too. How would it affect individual RPers near the Carib. I think that the turning up before the next con is about too start would be best.
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Thats kind of what I meant too. How would it affect individual RPers near the Carib. I think that the turning up before the next con is about too start would be best.
It will be interesting for sure with the newly formed GOMEZ.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:07 pm

It will be interesting for sure with the newly formed GOMEZ.
Yeah I figured it would be. Over time we'll probably have to establish some proper figures for our navies; glad I didn't do that in my faction sheet like I was going to because the numbers I thought were reasonable and not too over-powered were far less than the number of spare ships Bosmight just sold in the last thread :P.

And Gomez, best acronym ever.
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Yeah I figured it would be. Over time we'll probably have to establish some proper figures for our navies; glad I didn't do that in my faction sheet like I was going to because the numbers I thought were reasonable and not too over-powered were far less than the number of spare ships Bosmight just sold in the last thread :P.

And Gomez, best acronym ever.
We kind of shied away from numbers last time, it got a little too out of hand. Yes, Bosmight did sell a ridiculous amount of ships, I'm fearing this RP is going to follow the path of the last one.

:) Thanks, took me a little while to think of a good one. It fits nicely to considering Mexico put GOMEZ together, lol.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:27 pm

We kind of shied away from numbers last time, it got a little too out of hand. Yes, Bosmight did sell a ridiculous amount of ships, I'm fearing this RP is going to follow the path of the last one.

Is it because you're Americans? I mean the US Navy has 12 Aircraft Carriers right? Well that's 12 times more than any other navy on the Earth currently; full-scale Aircraft Carriers aren't just things every navy needs, they're very expensive vessels used mainly for attacking another nation far away.

What-ever, I'll just make my own navy bigger :D.

:smile: Thanks, took me a little while to think of a good one. It fits nicely to considering Mexico put GOMEZ together, lol.

Very well done, I honestly laughed-out.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:55 am

1 year gap. Will make my timeline after I eat some KFC Chicken. :)
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Is it because you're Americans? I mean the US Navy has 12 Aircraft Carriers right? Well that's 12 times more than any other navy on the Earth currently; full-scale Aircraft Carriers aren't just things every navy needs, they're very expensive vessels used mainly for attacking another nation far away.

11 if I remember correctly. 1 Enterprise class supercarrier and 10 Nimitz class carriers. Which will go down to 10 briefly when the USS Enterprise retires and then back up to 11 when the Gerald R. Ford replaces it.

Essentially, the numbers that bosmight put up would be quite a substantial portion of the current United States Navy.

However, the ones he actually sold weren't all that much (at least I don't think they were). But we also must take into account the state of affairs of the Fallout Universe. Given the rampant warfare and 50 year or so gap that the Fallout universe had on us, the United States Navy could have very well been double its current size. In 2007 for instance, the House Armed Services Seapower subcommittee wanted to increase the amount of carriers by one every four years (didn't happen but imagine if it did in the Fallout Universe). Extrapolate that to 2077 and you have a hell of a lot of carriers. Which isn't even counting the lower class vessels.

Given that bosmight's nation is based in Canada, its not that unreasonable that he would have access to a substantial portion of the old U.S. fleet.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:56 pm

So are we doing one of those timeline thingamajigs?
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11 if I remember correctly. 1 Enterprise class supercarrier and 10 Nimitz class carriers. Which will go down to 10 briefly when the USS Enterprise retires and then back up to 11 when the Gerald R. Ford replaces it.

Essentially, the numbers that bosmight put up would be quite a substantial portion of the current United States Navy.

However, the ones he actually sold weren't all that much (at least I don't think they were). But we also must take into account the state of affairs of the Fallout Universe. Given the rampant warfare and 50 year or so gap that the Fallout universe had on us, the United States Navy could have very well been double its current size. In 2007 for instance, the House Armed Services Seapower subcommittee wanted to increase the amount of carriers by one every four years (didn't happen but imagine if it did in the Fallout Universe). Extrapolate that to 2077 and you have a hell of a lot of carriers. Which isn't even counting the lower class vessels.

Given that bosmight's nation is based in Canada, its not that unreasonable that he would have access to a substantial portion of the old U.S. fleet.
Well not even including that but in the second World War the U.S had 48 large sized aircraft carriers and about 50 smaller "jeep" carriers. In the war torn world of Fallout I wouldn't be surprised if those numbers were doubled. Also due to the invasion of Anchorage most of the fleet would be there.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:11 am

However, the ones he actually sold weren't all that much (at least I don't think they were). But we also must take into account the state of affairs of the Fallout Universe. Given the rampant warfare and 50 year or so gap that the Fallout universe had on us, the United States Navy could have very well been double its current size. In 2007 for instance, the House Armed Services Seapower subcommittee wanted to increase the amount of carriers by one every four years (didn't happen but imagine if it did in the Fallout Universe). Extrapolate that to 2077 and you have a hell of a lot of carriers. Which isn't even counting the lower class vessels.


3 Aircraft Carrier, x+2 Escort Carrier, 4 Battleships, 13 Cruisers, 20 Frigates and 6 Patrol Frigates.

A whole first-world navy. It might be justified but it's still the post-apocalypse and their needs to be some balance surely? Not just go to a guy and buy a small navy that's been sitting in the Hudson Bay for decades.

I don't know, as I say I'll just increase my planned navy proportionally.
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Post » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:15 pm

The US also currently has 8 Wasp amphibious assault carriers. Those are basically miniature aircraft carriers. And that is along with the 11 normal ones.

But did the Fallout Universe ever develop Cruise and Tomahawk missiles? They basically make an assaulting Navy obsolete.
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3 Aircraft Carrier, x+2 Escort Carrier, 4 Battleships, 13 Cruisers, 20 Frigates and 6 Patrol Frigates.

Yeah it is quite a lot. I won't deny that by any means. But in terms of what we've done in this convention before, its quite mild. The United States pre-war most likely did have several first world navy's within its total overall arsenal (as we effectively do in real life). Whether or not bosmight's nation should have had access to these is another question entirely though.

Like you said, increase the British navy proportionally and its all fine.
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Yeah it is quite a lot. I won't deny that by any means. But in terms of what we've done in this convention before, its quite mild.
I shudder to imagine :P...
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11 if I remember correctly. 1 Enterprise class supercarrier and 10 Nimitz class carriers. Which will go down to 10 briefly when the USS Enterprise retires and then back up to 11 when the Gerald R. Ford replaces it.

Essentially, the numbers that bosmight put up would be quite a substantial portion of the current United States Navy.

However, the ones he actually sold weren't all that much (at least I don't think they were). But we also must take into account the state of affairs of the Fallout Universe. Given the rampant warfare and 50 year or so gap that the Fallout universe had on us, the United States Navy could have very well been double its current size. In 2007 for instance, the House Armed Services Seapower subcommittee wanted to increase the amount of carriers by one every four years (didn't happen but imagine if it did in the Fallout Universe). Extrapolate that to 2077 and you have a hell of a lot of carriers. Which isn't even counting the lower class vessels.

Given that bosmight's nation is based in Canada, its not that unreasonable that he would have access to a substantial portion of the old U.S. fleet.
Actually these were old one the Hegemony made Early on during its nations infancy. The didnt have access to a substnatial portion of the U.S fleet. They the blueprints of them and created them and also they are slowly upgrading there Navy.
But did the Fallout Universe ever develop Cruise and Tomahawk missiles? They basically make an assaulting Navy obsolete.
I dont think so. Plus in WW2, did any U.S Naval ships used Missiles? I cant quite remember...
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:01 am

Actually these were old one the Hegemony made Early on during its nations infancy. The didnt have access to a substnatial portion of the U.S fleet. They the blueprints of them and created them and also they are slowly upgrading there Navy.

Alright now that I do take issue with.

They created a full first world navy in their infancy? The Enclave just threw together a few ships from the Washington Naval yards and I imagine thats what the NCR did as well.

I'd prefer the pre-war explanation. Its at least semi-plausible at this stage.
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Post » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:01 am

I dont think so. Plus in WW2, did any U.S Naval ships used Missiles? I cant quite remember...
No, they used larged calibre naval cannons. Missiles and things have generally phased out the old massive battleships and such.
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Actually these were old one the Hegemony made Early on during its nations infancy. The didnt have access to a substnatial portion of the U.S fleet. They the blueprints of them and created them and also they are slowly upgrading there Navy.

I dont think so. Plus in WW2, did any U.S Naval ships used Missiles? I cant quite remember...
No, missiles were not very high tech in WWII. The ships had anti-air weaponry, those giant artillery cannons, and smaller cannons for fighting ships.

Modern Navy's don't have rhe fighting ship stuff.
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Alright now that I do take issue with.

They created a full first world navy in their infancy? The Enclave just threw together a few ships from the Washington Naval yards and I imagine thats what the NCR did as well.

I'd prefer the pre-war explanation. Its at least semi-plausible at this stage.
As in early on, I mention infancy as when there nation was still young. On 2130, there Navy was a mix of scavenged vessels, and a few survivng ships. As they progressed through the years, 2190 there Navy was used Old WW1-WW2 ships from old blueprint designs and created them and and by 2300 with many new nations, there are now going to upgrade there fleet.
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No, missiles were not very high tech in WWII. The ships had anti-air weaponry, those giant artillery cannons, and smaller cannons for fighting ships.

Modern Navy's don't have rhe fighting ship stuff.
I remember in one WW2 U.S Naval Documentary showing a U.S Navy ship firing unguided missiles but I am not sure. Tried typing up something on Missiles and the Navy during WW2 but no avil. :confused:
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