American Medical Association Report: 1-2 hoursday = Video Ga

Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:23 pm

And how many hours a day do they spend studying this kind of thing? Interesting...

But they being por-duck-tiv!

Now that they have another thing to treat, they can svck money out of all those parents that will send their kids in for treatment for their 'addiction,' then get really wealthy and...PROCREATE!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:10 pm

You think that's bad? I have more than twice that. The men in the white coats will be outside my door any minute now! :ahhh:

Oh dear, twice as much as me? Then I guess you are either twice as addicted, or just have more time than I to be addicted. :P
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:45 pm

When I was younger, around the 11-15 period I played a good 8 hours a day of Xbox. I lived out in the country so there was literally nothing to do. My grades were pretty mediocre, but enough to pass. My dad took away my Xbox and I was so bored. Then he limited me to only 1 hour of video game time a day.

Then I started drinking and drugging.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:55 pm

When I was younger, around the 11-15 period I played a good 8 hours a day of Xbox. I lived out in the country so there was literally nothing to do. My grades were pretty mediocre, but enough to pass. My dad took away my Xbox and I was so bored. Then he limited me to only 1 hour of video game time a day.

Then I started drinking and drugging.
Good to see your dad got you off the harder stuff when he did.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 4:45 pm


Good to see your dad got you off the harder stuff when he did.
Yea haha. But eventually I got my Xbox back because I wasn't playing it all the time. My parents didn't find out about my other problems 'till later.

There is unnecessary discrimination against people who are addicted to video games in some situations, then let's say a drug addict.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:27 pm

1-2hr days is actually less compared to back then..
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Post » Mon May 14, 2012 2:09 am

When I was younger, around the 11-15 period I played a good 8 hours a day of Xbox. I lived out in the country so there was literally nothing to do. My grades were pretty mediocre, but enough to pass. My dad took away my Xbox and I was so bored. Then he limited me to only 1 hour of video game time a day.

Then I started drinking and drugging.

That sounds just like me! Exept for my dad taking my xbox away and the "drinking and drugging" parts.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:27 pm

But they being por-duck-tiv!

I don't consider the guy who spends his day staring at addicts and writing about addicts and thinking about addicts any more productive than an addict. It seems... oh, what's the word? :tongue:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:07 pm

My first addiction! :biggrin:

Wait....my second... :thumbsup:
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:04 am

Here is the report from the AMA:

http://psychcentral.com/blog/images/csaph12a07.pdf

The American Psychiatry Association (APA), different from the AMA, carefully evaluated evidence for video game addiction and decided not to include it in its latest manual, due to not enough research being performed on the issue. However, new studies are emerging suggesting >2hrs/day as an addiction, requiring attention. Therefore, it may be included as a disorder in the next edition of the APA manual.

I tend to agree. I've had Skyrim for 3 months, and I am pushing 67 hours. It has significantly affected my daily and social functioning. That is ~ 1 hr game-time per day. I find it difficult to believe that putting in more than 1 hr per day does not affect your daily functioning. However, I do find it easy to believe that lots of gamers put in >1hr/day and do not realize the effect gaming has on their other life endeavors.

Please let me know you opinion on this issue. Thank you very much.
It's just because it's gaming, nobody would say that spending more than 2 hours reading; writing, watching tv or listening to music is an addiction, but gaming? well, more than two hours and your addict mind might send you on a murderous rampage. An hour/2 hours a day does not affect my daily functions nor will it ever. Everything that needs to get done gets done and more, gaming/movies/reading is my reward after a long day.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:14 pm

I'm really rather torn on this one.

First, the report itself:
1. They advocate 1-2 hours of screen time. This includes video games, TV, movies, etc. They are at least consistent on this point.
2. Their recommendations "based upon the AAP" (American Academy of Pediatrics) is a bit misleading - the AAP recommends that children ages 2 and up be limited to 1-2 hours of TV, but they don't seem to provide an upper limit for this guideline.
3. They somehow managed to get their DSM numbers wrong. The DSM-V is currently being written - not the DSM-IV, which has been published since 1994 (TR / text revision was published in 2000).

Tossing the report aside for now, there certainly is a thing called "TV / Internet / movie" "addiction." For the sake of brevity (ha) let's refer to it as "media addiction" and also clarify a few things.

1. We are talking about psychological addiction, not physical addiction.
2. As it is psychological, there is a lot of other factors that can influence whether or not someone is addicted. Personality mostly, though neurological can certainly play a part as well.
3. What constitutes an "addiction / overuse" for some may not necessarily be an "addiction / overuse" for others, depending upon responsibilities and how the individual manages their time.
4. Psychological addictions typically require several factors before a psychologist would diagnose an individual as having an addiction:
1. General detriment - social, economic, etc (generally mental).
2. Neglecting responsibilities (work, school, etc).
3. Taking risks (social, economic, etc) in order to engage in the activity more (personal relationship issues).
4. Acknowledgement by the individual that the activity is harmful to them (not always necessary)
(This is not a exhaustive list, nor is it necessarily accurate)

On one hand, I agree with the science - there can be detrimental effects to staring at a TV / computer screen for an excessive period of time each day (physically and mentally - everybody here have 20/20 vision without correction? :P). On the other hand, the recommendations perhaps seem a little extreme for anyone over the age of 10-13, who will increasingly be using computers and the Internet.

And this all coming from a graduate student who is getting his Ph.D over the Internet and spends 8+ hours a day at a computer. :P
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:29 pm

Am I just getting old and cynical when I suspect that words like "addiction" are used less for their usefulness in describing something than their headline-grabbing potential...?
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:51 pm

Well I think everyone can agree that anything that someones does to the point that it ends up getting in the way of their to life to the point of being detrimental to them (financially, physically, mentally, socially, etc) is a not-so-good thing.

However, I don't see how you can attach a number to an activity and say anything more than that is bad. Also, is all TV bad? Is there a difference between watching 2+ hours of Bill Nye the Science Guy or something else along the lines of just mindless non-informational reality TV? Or for video games, is playing The Sims for 2+ hours better than playing "mindless nonstop violence game X" for the same amount of time? What about multi-tasking? Is media okay for more than 2 hours if you do work while watching TV or playing games?

Gaming to me is a hobby. Some people spend hours if not days or weeks or months building bird houses, but I've never heard of "Bird House Building Addiction". I figure it's possible to get addicted to anything if you have enough interest and not enough self control, so this just seems to me that singling out technology (games, movies, tv, etc) is just the thing to do these days.

Monday through friday's I have up to 5 hours a day of pure free time (going off of my usual schedule, which doesn't apply at the moment), and a lot of the time twice that on weekends (which is usually spent with my significant other). I feel I live a fairly productive life at the moment, and I couldn't possibly see what else it is I should be doing with my free time. I couldn't pro-create no matter how hard we tried, so that's out of the question. So, as I said before, attaching a number to an activity and saying anything more is bad doesn't seem right. PErhaps for some, but I don't see why it need apply to everyone.

7am-10am - Wake up, eat, meditate/stretch/exercise, shower/hygiene stuff, off to school
10am-3pm - school (give or take an hour)
3pm-6pm - house work or any extra studying/school work I need to do (give or take an hour)
6pm-10pm - Free time (give or take an hour) (aka Playing games for 3-5 hours straight)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 3:17 pm

We were somewhere around Bethesda on the edge of DC when the games began to take hold. And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the living room was full of what looked like cliffracers, all swooping and screeching and diving around the sofa. And a voice was screaming "By Azura! What are these [censored] animals?"

Then it was quiet again. "What the hell are you yelling about?" my flatmate muttered, staring at the television with his eyes closed and covered with wraparound Spanish sunglasses. "Never mind," I said. "It's your turn to play Skyrim." I tossed him the controller. No point mentioning those cliffracers, I thought. The poor bastard will see them soon enough.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 8:53 pm

I can't elaborate now because I am focusing.
Clearly you are not, because you are wasting time on this forum. You have now lost your right to reproduce, please go stand in the line to the right to be neutered.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:19 pm

We were somewhere around Bethesda on the edge of DC when the games began to take hold. And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the living room was full of what looked like cliffracers, all swooping and screeching and diving around the sofa. And a voice was screaming "By Azura! What are these [censored] animals?"

Then it was quiet again. "What the hell are you yelling about?" my flatmate muttered, staring at the television with his eyes closed and covered with wraparound Spanish sunglasses. "Never mind," I said. "It's your turn to play Skyrim." I tossed him the controller. No point mentioning those cliffracers, I thought. The poor bastard will see them soon enough.
Haha great Fear and Loathing reference. Lol. :D
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 11:29 am

From the report linked to in the OP. (page 4, bottom):
Research in the United States has estimated that anywhere from a small minority to as much as 10% to 15% of players may be affected.
However, as with findings on long-term aggression, there is currently insufficient research to definitively conclude that video game overuse is an addiction.
Now I only skimmed the report but I don't see them stating that +2 hours of gaming = addiction. They might recommend a max of 2 hours a day, but that does not mean that everyone that goes beyond that recommendation is actually addicted.

According to my steam gameplay stats I played more than 2 hours a day in the past two weeks, then again I don't waste time on games and social media when I have work to do (I don't bother with social media at all, unless you count this forum as being social media), unlike those non-gamers that I see wasting time with wordfeud during lectures. So even though I pass that 2 hour mark, I'm still perfectly able to give priority to more important aspects of my life like study.

In my opinion, you can't determine addiction by the time you waste on something, instead it should be determined by your dependency on it. I for one have no problem with abandoning gaming for a period of time (when on holiday or when I simply have no time due other activities/work). Thus I wouldn't class myself as a game-addict.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:45 pm

I play games from 6-10 on weekdays and for nearly 12 hours on weekends depending on my schedule. I don't view this as a problem since I know when to turn it off and regularly do, sometimes taking an hours break before coming back to play something else.
Besides playing games, watching TV and listening to music there is nothing for me to do in the free time I have so to consider me as an "addict" to games is rediculous! :user:
And in any chance is eating, sleeping, drinking -breathing addiction because I'm doing them more regular and in the case of breathing every second. Must be addicted to that because I can't stop :)
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 5:36 pm

It depends on your current situation. If you are rich and have your future secured, then you can reproduce to have children - they should easily take up the time. If you live in a trailer, you can get a second job to get a better, larger trailer. If you did not finish college, now is your chance. As you can see, it all depends.
Recommending that people add more big stressors into their life to give them something to do isn't very psychologically sound. People develop hobbies for a reason. Being stressed all the time is NOT good for you.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 12:33 pm

You think that's bad? I have more than twice that. The men in the white coats will be outside my door any minute now! :ahhh:

That's better than having CIA agents throw a rope down from your ceiling and swoop you up into the darkness never to be seen again.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 6:52 pm

That's better than having CIA agents throw a rope down from your ceiling and swoop you up into the darkness never to be seen again.

I don't know, that sounds pretty much the same. Except my cell's walls will have padding ^_^
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 10:52 pm

The report is moronic. I'm a single father who works all day in a demading brain exhausting job. I come home and take care of my "domestic" duties for my daughter, walk the dog every night and get ready for the next day. When I'm done it's time to open a cold bottle of beer (or two...or three) and relax and escape in a game for a few hours or read a book or fiddle about in the kitchen trying out new cooking stuff. So, which activity am I addicted to? Which one is detrimentel? For a few hours a day, I am released from the grind and probably a better person for it. PFFFT! I say. A pox on all their houses!
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 2:32 pm

This thread makes me want to watch 50 episodes of Seinfeld in a row and then mastvrbate.
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Post » Sun May 13, 2012 9:36 pm

are these the same people who want grief classified as a mental illness?
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double post - router fart
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