I didn't say they were but you missed the point that British English is not a modern language and it's been around hundreds of years before American language and accent. The point is you shouldn't put something modern in this game.

Would it be authentic for the Jarl of Whiterun to say:

"Howdy partna, y'all excoose tha muddy chaps..."

Simply put - there are degrees of authenticity within a fake land.

And they are still around, while both are still around.


My post was in proper context.

Keep backing yourself into a corner, bud.

http://youtu.be/VFFczMYJoSY

So, you want pre-Shakespearean English. Yeah, maybe .1% of the playerbase would be able to understand everything that's being said if that were the case.

Out of context, bad logic and you cannot re-enforce your position with such nonsense.

LMAO, I'm guessing you've finally given up on your stupid topic, judging by how ridiculous that post was.

Your answer to this question, "How exactly do you know which accents should be 'authentic' for a fake land?" was as follows:

"By history and Americans where not around when smithing and making weapons by hand where done. Elder Scrolls has all the hall marks of an ancient game, there is nothing modern about it. American is a modern form of British English, change to suit modern America. 20th century things do not fit in this game and that's my point. "


Please, don't criticize anyone else's grasp of logic ever again.

And africans came before you. And?

Seriously? Apparently everything kills people's "immersion" for this game. For one, this is an American game so of course it's going to have American voice actors. I don't expect to play a Japanese game with original British voice actors. Secondly, many linguists agree that the the modern American accent had changed less from the older English dialects than the modern British accent so to say it's too new is pretty dumb.

And most importantly, this is a fictional world, and to be honest if you wanted true immersion all the characters would probably be speaking some make up language and you'd have to read subtitles in english.

"By history and Americans where not around when smithing and making weapons by hand where done. Elder Scrolls has all the hall marks of an ancient game, there is nothing modern about it. American is a modern form of British English, change to suit modern America. 20th century things do not fit in this game and that's my point. "

American is NOT a modern form of British English. Both modern British and American English are modern forms of Old and Middle English, and both have changed over time to become very different from each other, although not different enough to become separate languages. (unlike French and Italian which used to be the same language!) American English retains more vocabulary from the older English dialects than modern British English. Neither is anywhere close to Old English, but to say that the progression of dialects goes Old English> British English> American English is entirely wrong.

Everything in TES is modern to its own time.

i dont know ppl place such value on things.My friend, by contrast cant stand british accents in fantasy, as if anything fantasy is british. I can see his point. however neither bother me. Maybe since im from new york i see accents more as defining the individual rather than the place. anyway, people need to get over this.

I mean there are British voice actors in batman AC. There are no british people in the comics. The game was made in the UK so of course theyre going to have access to more british actors. Same went with Star Wars. Its not like its believable that british people would be in space. Yet they had to make due with what was available to them. Its not just a choice, sometimes its a budget problem. Get over it.

Did Arnold actually do that voice acting? I remember hearing some gaurds which I thought sounded like him, but I thought it was just that - the actor "sounded like him", not "was him". IMDB doesn't list Arnold as one of the voice actors. . .?

No, I would want accents that are not modern. American accents in the game sound exactly like today's American accents, that's the point. Modern American accents don't sound right in such games and the kids in Skrim sound like that in Fallout 3 which are very strong modern American accents.

I have a great deal on the brooklyn bridge i gotta tell you about.

No, it's not really him. It just sounds like a poor impression of him.

The problem isn't the voice acting.

The problem is when several NPC have the same voice actor using the same voice.

Here's what you are missing: None of the current accents on EARTH, ANYWHERE, existed back in that time. Not one. ALL accents evolve over time with language. Whether you are from London or New York or Tokyo, you do not speak like people spoke 500 or 1000 years ago. There is nothing "old" about any English accent, because they have evolved just as much as American accents have. The difference between the accents is purely geographical. They could hire 100% of their voice actors from Nordic regions and not one of them would sound like people from those regions did centuries ago. It is impossible.



Again, every single accent in the world that is currently used is modern. On top of this, since it is a setting created by Bethesda, Bethesda gets to choose what an "authentic" accent is.

I hate the nord accents in this game. It's way too forced and doesn't remind me of any Scandianvian accent at all. The women ones have one too "americanized" (too good accent for nords imo) and the other women voice is just horrible (for a nord). Sounds like someone comming from hammerfell, not Skyrim. And the Arny voice. Wth where they thinking?
Khajiits accent is pretty good
Orc's have a pretty good accent too
So does Altmers and Bosmers, but dark elves...no. Just doesn't make sense to suddenly make them British.
Imperials is good and so is breton and redguard.
So yeah, I'm a bit pissed that they didn't search for Scandianavian voice actors (or at least someone who can do the right accent) to voice the nords when the Nords are the "most important" race of the game. :flamethrower:

I wonder how we all sound in another 100 years or so...since everything is so international these days. Only people in true ghettos will probably have distinct accents.

Read my last post. Any modern accent wouldn't sound right in this game if you're going for a more realistic historical setting.

We'll sound like Goobacks, obviously.

Hopefully OP can be around to tell us what we SHOULD sound like based on Sci-Fi content created in 2011.

That's like saying Bethesda used an accent in their game that was made 20 years ago and put in it their game which is based on accent workings. it just wouldn't fit, hence why American doesn't fit. What other elements should Bethesda put in their game that where invented in the last 200 years? You think energy saving light bulbs, central heating, double glazing?

For 150th time. You are wrong. No accent you hear today existed 500 years ago. You would not be able to understand a single word of medieval English. How can you not get this through your head. Your entire premise is flawed.