i was hoping the AMR with silencer would be the ultimate sniper tool, but it doesn't work. i am so sad, words fail.
though the explosive .50 ammo is sweet, even the regular .50 ammo makes a bang big enough to alert everyone in the area.
i am thoroughly disappointed with this particular mod.

It's not supposed to make it silent, it's a [censored] .50bmg.

okay, it's a big cal munition. so then, what's the [censored] point of having s suppressor then? pointless.

Are you trying it with the explosive ammo or the regular ammo?

No, trust me, it works, if you listen to the before and after of that weapon, it's whisper quite. It's a .50 cal dude, It's like putting a suppressor on a tiger tank. The AI still treat it as a silenced weapon.

Then whats the point of having a silencer/Suppressor? Wasting caps?

Tell me ONE advantage of the suppressor on the AMR?

The loud sound was the best thing about the weapon. And they want us to suppress it but NOT make it silent? [censored] smart.

i've tried it with both types of ammo. explosive killed everyone in a 4 foot radius. regular .50 cal woke everyone to my presence instantly with the big bang.
maybe it's my pc...i don't know. but i'm seriously disappointed. never had that prob with regular silenced sniper rifles.
that legion camp was a great place to off legionaires for loot to buy add-ons. (the Booted Quest)
i went there with my silenced AMR and the whole place lit up after the 1st shot. bummer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tffzBPdPlPA

Weapons in F:NV have three noise levels: Loud, Normal, and Silent. Loud is a large radius and will alert folks at long range. This is what the AMR normally uses. With the suppressor, the noise level is reduced to Normal. This is a smaller radius.

Most snipers operate from a long range, if you camp out at a distance and use non-explosive ammo you should be fine.

Sawyer said it.

To make the AMR "silent", you'd need a big old can on the end (which you would have to maintain regularly), and load subsonic ammunition for it, which will cut down on power by a lot (something I think was missing from Vegas, as it would have made sniping from concealment a harder affair as you'd need a head shot with any silenced weapon to kill without noise. .223 would effectively be .22LR, .308 would effectively be .38 Special, and so on and so forth).

I hope for the day when you get that full of water feeling in your ears and the loud ringing after discharging a firearm in a game, with said fullness (deafness) slowly residing over hours, and where even a lowly .22LR will ruin your game (disability and a doc stay needed). Probably doesn't sound fun to most, but it's never been done before.

I have tested it and it works. To remain hidden it needs to be long distance shot but no where near as long for an unsuppressed ant-material rifle. And instead of the entire pack of ghouls from the nuclear test sight swarming up at me they had no idea where I was and it remained in caution mode giving me time to kill a few more ghouls then back away and reenter hidden.

Well done, sir!

Silencers and are not real they defy physics, The noise of the discharge of most firearms is made up of two components. The first comes from the rapid expansion of propellant gases as they leave the muzzle. The second is the supersonic crack of the bullet. It is not possible to reduce the sound level of a supersonic bullet, but a sound moderator fitted to such a rifle will have some significant effect in reducing the noise signature because it controls the rate of expansion of the propelling gases. For a sound moderator to be really effective, it must be used with ammunition whose projectiles travel at less than the speed of sound. In such cases, the noise of the discharge is greatly reduced and may not even be recognizable as a gun.

Have you even fired a real firearm? Even a pistol is loud, now imagine that inside a building, I have no idea how in The Bison Hotel how all the convicts aren't aware of your presence from another room. That's just with a pistol; rifles, shotguns, and .50 cal weapons are WAY louder! The fact that the character can even haul that thing around is impressive but that's another discussion.

In the end, in real life a "silencer" is more of a sound suppressor. At best it can suppress half the sound and still that's pretty loud, once again people rely on Hollywood and Bond movies to represent real life. Now in the future can technology be improved, sure but I am talking from a stand point of our best technology.

Now I find myself asking if energy weapons makes noise, so are they all essentially silenced weapons? By the way as well in real life movies like Star Wars and those awesome space fighting scene's lasers would make no sound in space nor would explosions. There is no air in space therefore there is no sound in space either. Sound is vibrations in the air and hence no air in space, no air to make sound. There are light and radio waves in space but those do not cause sound. Light does not need air to travel, you see light, you don't hear it or it is interpreted by your radio set and then translated into sound. Anyways I am digressing and Star Wars would be boring if you couldn't hear the laser fire and ships exploding. Hollywood, TV, and such needs to be critically anolyzed when taking in information and comparing any of it to real life.

Ever fired a suppressed Berreta M92? Get outta my forum.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it still makes noise, just not much. The only real way to silently kill something is with a well placed Melee or thrown weapon that doesn't explode.

Have you? Or does the you tube videos put out there justify your answer? Videos on the internet do not give a clear and complete representation of sound.

It lets you snipe at long range without letting people know what's going on, just like any other silenced sniper rifle.

Granted at closer ranges this falls apart because the silencing effect isn't as drastic... But hey, .50 BMG should never really be totally silent.


It's pretty silly to complain about the sound getting reduced when you're installing a suppressor on your gun.

Seriously, I tried out the suppressor, found it turns my manly roaring gun into a quiet kitten and said "hell no." I know I'm giving up the ability to cheese snipe people from stealth from a mile away, but I don't care.

Yup, along with a one of a kind m14e2 Prototype, AK47, Styer AUG, Thompson 1928 and many many more.

It's easy to say something without proof. My response is based on science yours is based on what....? Anyways I'm done talking about this. I'm not getting into a forum war with a 15 year old.

Your response isn't based on science it's based on firing an unsuppresed firearm going "OOOOHH LOUD!" and assuming it always will be plus you have no proof either.

I shoot guns all the time, my Facebook picture is of me shooting my Glock 23C.

Here's some reading for ya.
http://www.gun-shots.net/suppressors.shtml

http://www.dangerousdecibels.org/education/information-center/decibel-exposure-time-guidelines/

At far enough distances you can stay hidden even with unsuppressed weapons. I was testing out the Medicine Stick (which is amazing for a non-scoped rifle by the way) in Freeside and took out all the Securitron Guards and a couple of Random Kings without any of them going aggressive on me.

Congratulations you read an article on the internet totally legit in every way, neh?

I'm not going to write a graduate level paper for you, do the research yourself. I'm done with this thread...moving on.