Master of None? Please tell me you're joking. Of the last three PC's that I've owned (including my current one), I have never had any trouble or difficulty running games. About the only thing that makes a console a superior gaming platform is that it's a brainless plug `n play system.

And I, for one, buy my PC for tasks that are very resource intensive. The fact that getting a computer capable of doing them also makes for an ideal gaming PC is gravy.

Well, then don't expect to get "pretty settings" on the console, because, as I'd noted, they're limited. Already, cross-platform games like even Crysis 2 demonstrate wild differences between the PC and console versions.


Except that this isn't QUITE the case any more, as those who'd bought Metal Gear Solid 4 (and it's lengthy "pre-cache" aka "install" period) would know. Or had to wait through downloads and patches to the system software on their console.

*In the voice of craig charles*

LET THE CONSOLE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS

BEGIN!

I just don't want glitches and it to freeze all the time like COD:bo*****s

A modern graphics card will max out just about everything.
"Being cheap" means you don't get 2650x1600 with 32xAA in 3D - being cheap means you limit yourself to 'only' 60fps at 1920x1200 on highest settings.
If you paid $1500 for a PC that isn't very good - well, that's a bit rubbish. PC gaming requires a tiny bit of research, and if you're not willing to put that in, then yes, paying 33% less for 10% of the power might be for you.

Alienware has done a lot of damage about getting affordables gaming PC's...

Indeed. Alienware is a pathetic sub-company. I'll admit their laptops arn't that bad value but 900 quid for a desktop with an I3 processor? [censored] off.

It's an old argument...console vs PC.

Seems to me that if all you care to do is play games, then a console is probably right for you. If game playing is just one of the many things you care to do, then perhaps a PC is right for you. If you are thinking that you will buy a console to play games, then a PC to do other, basic computer things, then you are approaching the financial realm of what a "good enough" gaming PC would cost.

There are some benefits to paying more for a PC over a console. PCs often provide an upgrade path, so players can "buy some now, the rest later". PC games are generally cheaper, and if you purchase a lot of games, the financials may work out for you. PC players enjoy MODS, which, as any Bethesda fan knows, adds re-playability in dramatic ways.

There are also some benefits to using a console. Consoles are easy to use, do not require maintaining often complex up to date software environments with drivers and OS configurations, and therefore, Console players might not suffer all the system tweaking we PC gamers often have to do to get new games running on our boxes. Consoles are more "kid proof" than PCs. There is a good market for used games for consoles, and, of course, Consoles are much cheaper and offer good bang for the buck.

As in all things, it isn't that one is universally better than the other, but rather which is better for you.

Stop being such a snob. You're not special because you own a fancy PC.

The game isn't "built for the lowest common denominator" it's built so that everyone can play it, not just rich snobs with $2000 gaming rigs. I swear everytime I see someone like this I want to slap them. Do people not realize that consoles saved the gaming industry? PC gaming was dying a couple years back, badly. There's a reason game shops are 80% console games and the PC section is a little bargain bin now-a-days...

I bought a mustang, I have to share the road with the "lowest common denominators" UGH your kind make me sick to my stomach.

If you must spend 2000$+ to get a nice rig that would put consoles to shame, you're either an enthusiast (which is nothing wrong with that...I am one myself), or an idiot.

Or maybe, just maybe, people do both?! I know, absurdly impossible, right?

Maybe, just maybe not everyone has the same budget, and maybe just maybe people don't fit into categories of casual/hardcoe pc/console.

Given the chance, most people would gladly play games across all platforms, however some people just can't afford the luxury that is PC gaming. Not to mention the trouble. There's so much work involved with being a PC gamer, you have to research computer parts and keep up with the times if you want to be able to repair/build it yourself, and you need to be good at software too, solving problems, working around blue screens and fatal errors, etc.

Consoles are great because they take all the ridiculously tedious things out of gaming, and they bring great compatibility to developers looking to keep their game stably running on ONE type of system. I'm still surprised that PC gaming is supported, I mean, what a daunting task, keeping a game running for thousands of possible combinations of PC rigs. It's just not worth it and I think one day soon we'll see a definite end to true PC gaming and a revolution of console gaming (that plays identical to PC, but every rig has the same specs).

That was a figure of speech, besides, I've heard the "you can game on a $500 rig" thing before and yeah you can, but PC enthusiasts are all for the PC being superior graphics-wise, and yes you do need an expensive rig to push the latest games to their full potential soo.. yeah. Game on a $500 rig and it'll be on low-moderate graphics, with a greater chance for crashing, glitching and freezing soo.. you're still better off on an HD console.. for price, compatibility and graphics.... Point still stands... $299 > $599-$1299

Consoles > PC

Except if you want to play The Sims.

I have a PS3, lately covered in dust. And I have certainly not come back to buy a TES game for a console. The one who can enjoy it on a computer, do so. A console can not cover the options that provides a PC to a game of this type. And I end up boring fast.
Now, if you do not want to complicate your life or do not have a PC, then try it in console. In short, in the end most people will play the game where they can or want.

Now that is trying to start a flame war with some people.

I'm sorry, but what?

That's partially false, and partially "oh god no how did you even think that?". For a $500 PC we're talking midrange everything - midrange everything these days runs everything at max. Well, with the exception of Metro 2033. Everything else, though - Crysis, Crysis 2, Oblivion, Fallout, stalker, mass effect, just cause 2, dwarf fortress (for the first 100 dwarves), nethack, call of duty, everything - maxxed out. Games don't require much in the way of power to max out any more.

As for being more likely to glitch - no. Running games on lower settings, even if you had to do that, does not cause "crashing, glitching, and freezing". I don't even understand where you got that idea.

As for price, we're talking $500 for a machine such as mine, which maxes out just about everything at 1680x1050, or about $550-600 to go that step beyond and max it out at 1920x1200. Personally, paying $200 more for a PC literally ten times as powerful *as well as* being a multi-purpose machine not locked into being a toy is well, well worth it, and I could not legitimately recommend buying a console for financial reasons to anybody. Of course, some disagree, and as such consoles sell rather well. There are advantages to them, after all, they don't require thought to set up or use (Not a slight against console users, I assure you - some people simply don't care about computers and don't want to know anything about them other than they work), they are a bit cheaper initially, and while you pay more for the games, and more for online play if you choose a 360, if you're on a highly limited budget having a little less go out at once could be nice (Though you could buy your PC in bits and spread out the cost, you have to wait for that), and (The big one, for many people) if they break you can't fix it. How is that an advantage? Well, if you can't fix it, you can pay for somebody else to fix it without thinking "I should have done that!".

Still, console gaming isn't for me, and unless it has a u-turn from where it is now it never will be. I hold nothing against you for being a console user - but please, do be accurate!

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First of all even if what you say is true, the difference is so minute that it barely matters. The xbox and ps3 are practically identical. Uncharted has good graphics, but it is not like it is revolutionary. I dont notice veins in the leaves or scractches on my hands. I dont even care. Gameplay is 1000 times more important than graphics. Look at minecraft for example (its a lot more fun than uncharted).


It has also been confirmed that Todd's favorite system is the xbox, therefore like Oblivion it will probably have additional add ons.

However the pc is obviously the best choice because of mods.

1. PC (mods)
2. Xbox (extra downloadable content)
3. PS3 (nothing)

I agree with this guy. We know PCs are the best. We all agree that they are the most powerful. One word to describe many PC owners, ELITIST. Stop saying they develop the games down to the consoles, and either buy a console or develop your own PC friendly game (try to make some money with a tiny audience like that). Fact of the matter is the PC gamer audience is TINY compared to the cosole audience. IT is NEVER going to happen. SO SHUT UP!

You know, I'm not sure why in the sub title the OP states that he doesn't want xbox ports. I own both a pc and xbox and are probably getting it for the console before buffing up my pc with steroids for it to function. I really don't care if it comes out the ps3 because I don't own one. I'd take it either way.

Firstly, http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2010/04/19/hear-that-knocking-sound-its-pc-gaming/

Secondly, does nobody ever notice the irony in complaining about how an entire demographic generalises? I mean, come on.

As for the money, lots of people do. Minecraft has made millions, without any advertisemant. Steam takes billions. Exact sales figures for any game or console are difficult to come by, but Crysis sold three million copies - respectable for even a AAA console game, and it's spinoff Warhead sold 1.5 million. Hardly tiny.

Most PCs have capabilities way beyond Xbox and PS3. The differences between Xbox and PS3 aren't as significant, so I think that the PC should get its own version.

do you have any idea why those two things are succesful?!? because they are extrememly ecessible, like the 360 and the PS3. Minecraft doesnt take a complicated rig, almost any computer can run that game. Steam makes it sooo easy to buy games.

A port is when they intend to make a game for PS3, for example, and then they take what they made and tweak it slightly so that it will also run on xbox and/or computers?

How very wrong you are. Its people like you which make me want to find where you live and give you a nice fat slap.