Anu-Padomy= Shor and Alduin?

Post » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:10 pm

Forgive me if this has been answered before. But is Lorkhan and Alduin, Anu-Padomy?

I was re-reading the Five Songs of King Wulfharth and noticed this excerpt:

Seeing the strength of King Wulfharth, Orkey summoned the ghost of Alduin Time-Eater again. Nearly every Nord was eaten down to six years old. Boy Wulfharth pleaded to Shor, the dead Chieftain of the Gods, to help his people. Shor's own ghost then fought the Time-Eater on the spirit plane, as he did at the beginning of time, and he won, and Orkey's folk, the Orcs, were ruined.

As you can see by the quote above it states, that Shor/Lorkhan and Alduin/Akatosh had fought at the beginning of time. I was always under the impression that Anu-Padomy did the same?
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Post » Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:35 pm

I think this may refer to Lorkhan fighting Auriel.
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Post » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:40 am

Anu-Padomay "fought" (such an explicit description is not really appropriate, since these are extremely abstract and formless things, not even really fit to be considered "gods") and merged giving rise to the Aurbis, or the entire universe. It is usually thought that Time comes from the Dragon God which arises after this event.

The conflict between Shor and Alduin is considered "the same as" Anu/Padomay because it is essentially just an echo of the event. This happens all the time (see the Enantiomorph, a fascinating subject in TES that comes up very often), but the specific Shor-Alduin conflict given here is likely the Convention, in which the Heart of Lorkhan (Shor) is torn out.

Shor here can be interpreted as any one of the "space gods" Shezarr, Lorkhan, etc. Similarly, Alduin is Alkosh, Akatosh, Auriel and so on. The interesting bit comes from the smiliarity between the two, most obvious in the Imperial pantheon with Akatosh and Shezarr: the two gods are actually one and the same thing, but constantly waging internal conflict. Similarly, while Anu and Padomay are thought to represent Stasis and Change, or Light and Dark, or a thing and its antithesis, there is no actual difference between them. This is one of the impossible precepts upon which the universe is founded.

You probably know plenty of this already, but anyway, I think that bit refers to Convention.

Interestingly, both Shor and Alduin can be confused with beings on another gradient of creation, but in opposite directions: Shor often appears in somewhat mortal or mannish form, with Wulfharth almost being the same thing as Shor at times; on the other hand, Alduin as World-Eater is similar to Satakel in Redguard myth, which is usually considered to be the combination of Anu and Padomay.
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