Any glaring conflicts?

Post » Tue May 11, 2010 10:42 pm

Ok, so I have decided to update my GOTY Morrowind again with lots o mods and any updated versions that may have happened over the last few months. Well I have ended up with a mod list at more then double what I had before(since before I wanted to hurry play the game etc and didnt want to spend to much time finding mods), which of course means conflicts, errors etc of all types.
Anyway, before I start trouble shooting what works what doesnt(as in running through TESPCD and such), I thought it would be easy to ask, what in my list below just isnt compatable with something else on the list? As in no amount of changing load order or small tweaks will help. I would just like to know what I should ignore or what is likely to give me the most trouble. Note, I did look for and there is a page with conflicts listed, but thats over a year old and some of these are newer then that. Also, is there anything on the list that should come before or after something and this fact isnt really stated anywhere or is not very apparent?
Second reason for posting, does anyone have an opinion that any mods on my list here that seem to be overly laggy/not worth it etc etc?(somewhat subjective yes) In addition, any mods you think I should add? ignoring textures/meshes as I basically left most out of the list even tho I have them(altho I will say im looking at vurts newest release) AND that arnt major additions that like add islands and such.(nor NoM, thats too indepth for me) I guess you could say am somewhat of a purist, I am willing to branch out some, but want to stay mostly within the spirit/what could happen etc, hence the mods were chosen with that in mind(I also think MCA makes it crowded enough as is). Also, just to help keep the mod list short I will be merging a few of the smaller mods that are like tweaks and such.(wow that was more then I meant to type, hah)

Now the list!:(have a couple notes in parenthesis here and there)
GameFile0=Assassins Armory.esmGameFile1=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esmGameFile2=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esmGameFile3=Better Heads.esmGameFile4=Bloodmoon.esmGameFile5=GDR_MasterFile.esmGameFile6=MCA.esmGameFile7=Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmGameFile8=Morrowind.esmGameFile9=TR_Data.esmGameFile10=TR_Map1.esmGameFile11=TR_Map2.esmGameFile12=Tribunal.esmGameFile13=abotWaterLife.esmGameFile14=ASE Bloodmoon Expansion.espGameFile15=ASE Tribunal Expansion.espGameFile16=Alladin's Bottle Revamp.ESPGameFile17=Antares' Big Mod 4 - MCA 5.2 - patch.espGameFile18=Antares' Big Mod 5.espGameFile19=ArmorFix100.espGameFile20=Assassins Armory - Bolt Rifles.espGameFile21=Assassins Armory - No Scripts.espGameFile22=Assassins Armory - Unofficial Patch 7.7.espGameFile23=Assassins Bastard Fix.espGameFile24=AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.espGameFile25=AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0.espGameFile26=Balance - Character.espGameFile27=Balance - Magic Effects.espGameFile28=Balance - NPC Spellcasting.espGameFile29=Balance - spells.espGameFile30=Beds of the Mages Guild.ESPGameFile31=Better Bodies.espGameFile32=Better Clothes_v1.1.espGameFile33=Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.espGameFile34=Clean KeyNamer.espGameFile35=Creatures.espGameFile36=DN-GDRv1.espGameFile37=Dwemer Better Bodies.espGameFile38=Dwemer Sentinel.espGameFile39=DwemerArmorMk2.espGameFile40=Faster-v10.espGameFile41=Gameplay - Dialogue.espGameFile42=Gameplay - Faction.espGameFile43=Gatanas Markynaz Dremora Companion - Female.espGameFile44=Grass_Grazelands.espGameFile45=Grass_West Gash.espGameFile46=Illuminated Windows - Bloodmoon.espGameFile47=Illuminated Windows.espGameFile48=LCV Schedule Markers.espGameFile49=Lost Outpost.espGameFile50=MCA Names 5.2.espGameFile51=NPC LCV Locks.espGameFile52=NPC LCV Schedules 03.espGameFile53=New Argonian Bodies - Mature.espGameFile54=New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.espGameFile55=Passive_Healthy_Wildlife.espGameFile56=Prostitution_v12EV.espGameFile57=Protective Guards.espGameFile58=Resources Enhanced.espGameFile59=Romance_Follow_v10EV.espGameFile60=Romance_v37EV.espGameFile61=Scripted_Spells.espGameFile62=Siege at Firemoth.espGameFile63=SteelAlloyArmor.espGameFile64=Syc_MorrowindsStupidestCriminals.espGameFile65=Texture Fix -TR -1.0.espGameFile66=Universal Companion Share.espGameFile67=Vality's Ascadian Isles Addon.espGameFile68=Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.espGameFile69=WeaponFix164_Assassin_addon.espGameFile70=WeatheredSigns.espGameFile71=Westly Presents-Dremora Markynaz.espGameFile72=X-jiit.espGameFile73=X-jiitCompanionsTB.espGameFile74=X-jiitTails.espGameFile75=abotTakeMyPlace.espGameFile76=abotWaterLifeTRaddon.espGameFile77=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.espGameFile78=bcsounds.espGameFile79=mel_teleportPlugin_1_1.espGameFile80=tbone_dwemerV1_1.espGameFile81=weaponFix177.espAbove is all the ones I have used and got through the game with, incidently I was too lazy to go about getting any merged lists, hah(which I will be changing)Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.espBook Jackets - Bloodmoon.espBook Jackets - Morrowind.espBook Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.espBook Jackets - Tribunal.espBook Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.espBetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp (should I try this?)Blasphemous_Revenants 2.2BR Dead Heros.espNew Corprus Stalker.espUndead arise from death 1.8.espLeveledMagicka.espIlly's Solsteim Rumour Fix.espImproved Bartering.espDagonFel_Well.espadamantiumarmor.espClean Welcome to the Arena!.espSkill Progress.espTo The Death.espSkooma Anonymous.espVvardenfell Druglord.espGalur_Rithari_TRotS_v3.espDD Ajira's Alchemy Reports.espBooby Traps.espDisarming Zero.espFliggerty's Almanac.espHealers.espLore Fix.espWerewolf_Evolution.espyou are being robbed 3.espDivayth Fyr's Bribe.espEDNHE.esp(gets rid of not enough charge message)Fliggerty's Fleeing Fetchers.espToughSkeletonKey.espArgonian Breathing Toggle.espKhajiit Eye of Night Toggle.espFeatherweight Soul Gems.espKey Replacer MW.esp(plus the 3 other files that go with it)Moon-and-Star.esp(changes stats on ring)More Dangerous Lava.espNaked Nerevarine.espACE_Airattack.espACE_Charge.espDialogue Closer of Doom.espTwilight_Flight_1.0.espTyrMagickaRegenSlower.ESP(any other magicka regen mods instead of this?)Servants Must Serve_v1.0.espVampire Realism II - VH Patch.espvampire_realism_ii_installerVampire_Embrace.espVampiricHunger3v12(any of the files in it?)AreaEffectArrows.espBR_Werewolf_Patch.espEnhanced Detection.esp(newest version)Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.espAlmalexia_ReplacerLoot Sack.espMore Exquisite Clothes.espPersuasion Response Expansion.esp(should I try this?)dej_plain_paper_fix.espBosI Tarhiel's Teleport.espsyc_herbalismforpurists(any of the files?)The Neverhalls.espUnofficial Morrowind Comes Alive - City Attack Patch 1.ESPRise of House Telvanni.esmImproved Hand to Hand.espGravedigger.espweaponrotate1.1Vertical limit climbing mod 1.02.espcombatenhancedv12Dirty Deeds.espQuick Char.espWeatherBasedSneaking.esplgnpc modsEncumbrance Enhanced.espAnimated Morrowind 1.0.espGalsiahs Character Development(if I ever happen to wanna test something)Morrowind_Crafting_21Lights_300_V4.espLockbashing in MorrowindClean New Seyda Neen 1.5 B.espClean Cannibals of Morrowind.esp(I heard something about shopkeeps selling their own organs? also ran all these through and took a quick look at this seems to have problems with a couple vampire mods)

I am likely to add "GOTY Script Tidy" but am hoping the latest errors found are fixed and its updated before then. Also likely to add the breakable skeleton mod.
Hopefully I didnt miss/duplicate anything/made enough sense.
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Leticia Hernandez
 
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Post » Tue May 11, 2010 7:07 pm

Let's see what I can find.

GameFile32=Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
GameFile33=Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp

Only use one of them, depending on how you want your argonian females to look like.

Vampire Realism II - VH Patch.esp
vampire_realism_ii_installer
Vampire_Embrace.esp
VampiricHunger3v12

Vampire mods require a very specific load order...which I don't know. Oh wait, found the load order http://yacoby.silgrad.com/MW/Modlists/Loadorder.htm.


Also, you seem to use quite a few armor mods. Want even more? My suggestion is the http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6650.

Aaand that's pretty much it.

Edit: Oups. Forgot to say, I suggest using mlox. It's pretty good for pointing out glaring conflicts and outdated mods.
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Post » Tue May 11, 2010 10:23 pm

http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Mlox

Mlox.

I am the least technically savvy person on these fora. In fact, I'm pretty much useless.

But Mlox makes all that OK. I just follow its direction and the world is beautiful. Occasionally, I have to live with a conflict-or-two, but at least I am aware of the tradeoff being made!
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Post » Tue May 11, 2010 5:25 pm

Thanks for the replies, I guess no one has any opinions on mods though(aside from helluva which I was and am already wondering about)
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Post » Tue May 11, 2010 2:06 pm

The problem with opinions on if some mods are too laggy or not worth it, is that it's all a matter of taste.
For example, I consider the book jackets mods not worth it. Because the vanilla books satisfy me. But a lot of players consider it a must-have. Some can't even play with MCA due to FPS hit, others don't even notice any slowdown.

You could probably have more inputs if you ask the exact opposite. It's easier to talk about our favorite mods than talk against a mod.
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