Any LOTR references in Skyrim? : V

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:07 am

I've traveled something like 70% of the map, and in all my travels I've yet to come across any objects or persons even remotely affiliated with the LOTR storyline. Just curious if anybody has.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:39 am

Just why? Why would there be?

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:27 pm

Whiterun anyone????

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:54 am

The whole game really.....Tolkein practically invented the modern fantasy genre. He's the first person who took elves beyond "Santa's helpers" and popularized the modern concept of dragons, trolls, orcs, etc.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:57 am

The whole game really.....Tolkein practically invented the modern fantasy genre. He's the first person who took elves beyond "Santa's helpers" and popularized the modern concept of dragons, trolls, orcs, etc.

While he did invent the concept, TES actually uses very little of what he created. Other than Elves (as the word, and the fact they have pointy ears,) and Orcs, TES really made up all it's own stuff... Sure the basis is the same, but TES goes FAR beyond any other fantasy game to differentiate itself, and honestly I think grouping it blatantly as 'entirely based on Tolkeins creation of fantasy' is somewhat insulting to all that work they did to make it unique...

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:49 am

While he did invent the concept, TES actually uses very little of what he created. Other than Elves (as the word, and the fact they have pointy ears,) and Orcs, TES really made up all it's own stuff... Sure the basis is the same, but TES goes FAR beyond any other fantasy game to differentiate itself, and honestly I think grouping it blatantly as 'entirely based on Tolkeins creation of fantasy' is somewhat insulting to all that work they did to make it unique...

No no no no not what I meant at all.

Yes, every fantasy creator has adapted far beyond his original works, especially with TES. But he was the first to come up with many of the concepts. His shoulders are the ones on which the fantasy writers and creators of today stand upon.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:41 am

I for one get a kick out of seeing *clever* references to other creative works in video games. It was one of the things I really liked about WoW.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:11 pm

Whiterun anyone????

It reminds me of Rohan. Looks the same from a distance, Has a horse for the banner, and is centered in open plain. :foodndrink:

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:52 am

but TES goes FAR beyond any other fantasy game to differentiate itself,

Of the popular fantasy settings, TES is probably the closest to Tolkien. The heavy nordic influence being the big part.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:16 am

While I get that LOTR is homaged by pretty much any fantasy setting as a rule, I'm just talking about characters, places, or the like. Whiterun isn't inspired by anything except classic Nordic architechure from the early medieval period.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:03 am

Just why? Why would there be?

Just why.. not? There was one in Oblivion, the one ring none the less!

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:30 am

There is a minecraft reference though!

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:43 pm

I for one get a kick out of seeing *clever* references to other creative works in video games. It was one of the things I really liked about WoW.

You mean, such as:

[img]http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/dogate_EE4-sineei07.jpg[/img]

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:58 am

Of the popular fantasy settings, TES is probably the closest to Tolkien. The heavy nordic influence being the big part.

Well if i think about Nordic Warriors i first think of Vikings. And thats no secret that the Nords in TES are made after the nordic culture. Also Elves were that way BEFOR Tolkien.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:46 pm

How about the goblin-things in the deep places of the world... thats very Moria...

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:38 am

Just why? Why would there be?

Why not? Ever heard of an Easter egg?
OT: The sword Dawnbreaker glows when undead are nearby, similar to a certain sword from LOTR...

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:50 am

I was really hoping I'd encounter something like a Bal Rog inside Blackreach....

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:50 am

No, but there is an awesome Star Trek: The Next Generation reference.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:30 pm

Of the popular fantasy settings, TES is probably the closest to Tolkien. The heavy nordic influence being the big part.

But the heavy Nordic influence is only present in Skyrim. You're not looking at the TES series as a whole. There are 'heavy African influence' in Hammerfell and the Alik'r Desert, heavy Greek/Britanian influence in Cyrodiil, etc. Nordic is only present in Skyrim because that's what they chose. Sure if you look at just that, it 'uses' alot, though even then just because Tolkeins books use Nordic influences, doesn't suddenly mean he copyrighted the entire Nordic culture. They can use it without copying him or using him as reference whatsoever...

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:18 pm

But the heavy Nordic influence is only present in Skyrim. You're not looking at the TES series as a whole. There are 'heavy African influence' in Hammerfell and the Alik'r Desert, heavy Greek/Britanian influence in Cyrodiil, etc. Nordic is only present in Skyrim because that's what they chose. Sure if you look at just that, it 'uses' alot, though even then just because Tolkeins books use Nordic influences, doesn't suddenly mean he copyrighted the entire Nordic culture. They can use it without copying him or using him as reference whatsoever...

Beowulf was a heavy source of inspiration for Tolkien...and I've yet to encounter any Beowulf references either....

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:17 pm

No there aren't and I'm glad about it.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:45 am

WTF ! Just about everything!

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:06 pm

WTF ! Just about everything!

Like what?

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:48 am

But the heavy Nordic influence is only present in Skyrim. You're not looking at the TES series as a whole.

It's present in the entire history of TES. The history of the setting is the story of Nords for the most part. When it's not the story of elves.

though even then just because Tolkeins books use Nordic influences, doesn't suddenly mean he copyrighted the entire Nordic culture. They can use it without copying him or using him as reference whatsoever...

I never said they copied or referenced him. I said it's the closest of popular fantasy. And it is. Far more points of intersection between Tolkien and TES than say Warcraft or Forgotten Realms.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:01 pm

I was really hoping I'd encounter something like a Bal Rog inside Blackreach....

Spoiler

User a shout at the big yellow bell/paper meche looking thing.

Enjoy