any mods which add random locations and random miniquests? : IV

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:45 pm

Hi, you guys remember all those random miniquests in Oblivion? No? Well there were a few.. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Miscellaneous_Quests You see those quests which "Do not appear in the journal" and various other mini-quests that do not require a dialogue? I'm looking for mods which add those, AND are ACTUALLY FUN and GOOD. Hope I don't sound too demanding..

Anyway

I'm also looking for a mod which adds lots of random locations (like huts, small ruins and unmarked roads) which also maybe reworks old ones etc. Just makes the wilderness more alive, you know?

Any such mods which you could recommend?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:21 am

Enhanced Economy by TheNiceOne version 5.0.2 comes to mind. The Merchant quests are somewhat random. It's a terrific economics mode anyway. I'd recommend it if you don't have it.

Another one I remember is http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27583. The latest version is fairly recent.

They may not be spot on what you're looking for, but maybe you want to take a look nevertheless.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:00 pm

thanks! il check it out!

btw: are there any mods which ONLY limits/removes level scaling? I remember OOO, but I didn't like it. It changed too much imo.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:47 pm

thanks! il check it out!

btw: are there any mods which ONLY limits/removes level scaling? I remember OOO, but I didn't like it. It changed too much imo.

I think http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7902, but I don't know it very well... Looks like an Overhaul Prototype. Personally I really like OOO, because it makes the game much more immersive. But it is only a matter of tastes

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:46 am

btw: are there any mods which ONLY limits/removes level scaling? I remember OOO, but I didn't like it. It changed too much imo.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/820948-scaling-overhaul-comparison/page__p__11934228__fromsearch__1&#entry11934228

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:00 am

Dark Brotherhood: Continued? It's more like one quest where you repeatedly track down and assassinate randomly created NPCs.

The Elder Council mod has Legion 'quests' where you basically ride to other towns, or kill rats repeatedly

Also check the http://www.gamesas.com/?showtopic=931523&hl

I can't really think of much else... let's check the almighty Advanced search:

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php?name=random&scid=20&author=&mname=&desc=&size1=&size2=&downloads1=&downloads2=&udate1_day=0&udate1_month=0&udate1_year=0&udate2_day=0&udate2_month=0&udate2_year=0&ldate1_day=0&ldate1_month=0&ldate1_year=0&ldate2_day=0&ldate2_month=0&ldate2_year=0&endorsemants=&images=&readme=&advltonly=&opensource=&page=3&orderby=name&order=ASC

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php?name=&scid=20&author=&mname=&desc=random&size1=&size2=&downloads1=&downloads2=&udate1_day=0&udate1_month=0&udate1_year=0&udate2_day=0&udate2_month=0&udate2_year=0&ldate1_day=0&ldate1_month=0&ldate1_year=0&ldate2_day=0&ldate2_month=0&ldate2_year=0&endorsemants=&images=&readme=&advltonly=&opensource=&page=1&orderby=name&order=ASC

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php?name=&scid=20&author=&mname=&desc=miniquest&size1=&size2=&downloads1=&downloads2=&udate1_day=0&udate1_month=0&udate1_year=0&udate2_day=0&udate2_month=0&udate2_year=0&ldate1_day=0&ldate1_month=0&ldate1_year=0&ldate2_day=0&ldate2_month=0&ldate2_year=0&endorsemants=&images=&readme=&advltonly=&opensource=&page=2&orderby=name&order=ASC

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php?name=&scid=20&author=&mname=&desc=mini-quest&size1=&size2=&downloads1=&downloads2=&udate1_day=0&udate1_month=0&udate1_year=0&udate2_day=0&udate2_month=0&udate2_year=0&ldate1_day=0&ldate1_month=0&ldate1_year=0&ldate2_day=0&ldate2_month=0&ldate2_year=0&endorsemants=&images=&readme=&advltonly=&opensource=&page=2&orderby=name&order=ASC

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23278

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php?name=&scid=20&author=&mname=&desc=task&size1=&size2=&downloads1=&downloads2=&udate1_day=0&udate1_month=0&udate1_year=0&udate2_day=0&udate2_month=0&udate2_year=0&ldate1_day=0&ldate1_month=0&ldate1_year=0&ldate2_day=0&ldate2_month=0&ldate2_year=0&endorsemants=&images=&readme=&advltonly=&opensource=&page=2&orderby=name&order=ASC

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php?name=&scid=20&author=&mname=&desc=chore&size1=&size2=&downloads1=&downloads2=&udate1_day=0&udate1_month=0&udate1_year=0&udate2_day=0&udate2_month=0&udate2_year=0&ldate1_day=0&ldate1_month=0&ldate1_year=0&ldate2_day=0&ldate2_month=0&ldate2_year=0&endorsemants=&images=&readme=&advltonly=&opensource=&page=2&orderby=name&order=ASC

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php?name=&scid=20&author=&mname=&desc=journal&size1=&size2=&downloads1=&downloads2=&udate1_day=0&udate1_month=0&udate1_year=0&udate2_day=0&udate2_month=0&udate2_year=0&ldate1_day=0&ldate1_month=0&ldate1_year=0&ldate2_day=0&ldate2_month=0&ldate2_year=0&endorsemants=&images=&readme=&advltonly=&opensource=&page=21&orderby=name&order=ASC

Just curious, why do you want no journals for them? If you're worried about it getting hard to manage there's always the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32266.

As far as adding stuff to the world and making it look more Immersive there's mods like :
Unique Landscapes
Kragenirs Death Quest (not very big on immersion though, given stuff like Snow White and the seven dwarves)
Integration
Two of them are quest mods though that add like 60-80+ quests... each

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:13 pm

thanks guys! i like what i see!

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:08 am

hey, which of the major conversion mods add the LEAST amount of actual content? Like, simply a rebalance? I think OOO lite already did waay too much

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:31 pm

If you are strictly looking for quests, Kragenir's Death Quest adds loads of new quests and one really, really huge main quest.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1132365-relz-kragenirs-death-quest-203-thread-10/

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:43 am

I think OOO lite already did waay too much

Did you check out the link I posted earlier http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1144939-any-mods-which-add-random-locations-and-random-miniquests/page__view__findpost__p__16733798 ? Francesco's may be more to your liking than OOO.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:29 pm

I checked it, but I am still not sure.. does Francesco's add lots of new stuff?

ysne, thanks m8, il check it out!

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:33 am

hey, which of the major conversion mods add the LEAST amount of actual content? Like, simply a rebalance? I think OOO lite already did waay too much

Have you had a look at http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1123328-tie-tamriel-immersion-experience/ (T.I.E) yet?, which uses only vanilla resources

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:19 pm

does Francesco's add lots of new stuff?

Yes, but only if you say so during installation. New items and new creatures are optional only. So you can play with just the vanilla resources and only get the gameplay changes from Fran's. In this case you need not download the second part of Frans (the huge download of some 500 MB), you only need the smaller file. The changes make sense in my opinion, I will never ever play vanilla-vanilla EVER again. But that's only me.

Whatever we tell you, you need to see it and play it for yourself to form your opinion on the various mods.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:30 pm

I think the reason why OOO adds so much is for balancing purposes. OOO makes the game place centric and so you will be limited by your level on where you go in the game. (you would get killed by the higher level monsters) That means you have less choices at any one time of what you can do during the game. adding new content helps balance it out so that you won't have to go and grind levels by doing dungeons over and over again in order to level enough to go to new areas.

PS. I'm not sure about the above since I haven't played for a few years.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:09 pm

Yes, but only if you say so during installation. New items and new creatures are optional only. So you can play with just the vanilla resources and only get the gameplay changes from Fran's. In this case you need not download the second part of Frans (the huge download of some 500 MB), you only need the smaller file. The changes make sense in my opinion, I will never ever play vanilla-vanilla EVER again. But that's only me.

Whatever we tell you, you need to see it and play it for yourself to form your opinion on the various mods.

That is making Frans sound tempting Tommy. I really don't like Vanilla. I may give TIE a try but will have to disable COBL to do that.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:02 pm

That is making Frans sound tempting Tommy.

To read more about what Fran's does it is best to read the readme included in the mod download. However since it is an .exe file you can't access it directly. So do the following:

- Make a backup copy of your Oblivion.ini file that sits inside /My Games/Oblivion...
- Make SURE you made that copy!!
- Create a temporary folder, totally outside of /Oblivion/... path, wherever is convenient for you
- run the exe file, but install it into this temporary folder
- You get a feeling what's it's about, options etc.
- Peruse the documentation, it's a pretty big readme file but full of good stuff

- Retain whatever you want/need from the docs for later reading.
- Do a proper Uninstall of Fran's, not just deleting the temporary folder
- Just to be sure, take the backup copy of your .ini and re-insert it / overwrite the present one in /My Games/Oblivion. Chances are that Fran's made changes to the ini during the temporary installation.
- Also, when Frans still installed in temp folder and you want to keep it, and want to continue playing your game, do exchange the .ini with your backup copy to be sure you not have any Fran's changes around!

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:31 am

thanks! il check it out!

btw: are there any mods which ONLY limits/removes level scaling? I remember OOO, but I didn't like it. It changed too much imo.

Then you want to look into Frans. It's very modular and you only need to add the things you want. Aside from OOO, it's the classic when it come to level scaling.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:00 pm

Chances are that Fran's made changes to the ini during the temporary installation.

Frans only makes changes to the ini file if you install the optional addons, and then only to register the BSA archives. So there's really no need to go through all that bother with it. Having those BSAs registered will have no impact on the game if someone decides later that they don't want to use the optional components.

» Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:13 am

Frans only makes changes to the ini file if you install the optional addons, and then only to register the BSA archives. So there's really no need to go through all that bother with it.

Even better than!

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:14 am

I'm also looking for a mod which adds lots of random locations (like huts, small ruins and unmarked roads) which also maybe reworks old ones etc. Just makes the wilderness more alive, you know?

Any such mods which you could recommend?

Check out The Ayleid Steps. 100's of new 'step stones' scattered around Cyrodiil that transport you, semi randomly to different locations, including some new dungeons. There's a shortish quest to activatye the steps, plus further quests (that I've never done), but once activated the steps are a lot of fun.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:47 pm

hmm, is it possible to use fran's with a vanilla savegame?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:15 pm

hmm, is it possible to use fran's with a vanilla savegame?

Yes that should normally never be a problem. Load the savegame, go to a save place inside (your house, one of the inns, a church) and wait there for 3 days or whatever is the cell reset time in your game. Then everything has been reset at least once and the game is ready for continuation with Frans or whatever.

Check the readme of Fran's if anything particular is written in there about this.

Fran's also has a dedicated thread here in the Mods Forum, but you need to search for it. I don't have the link at hand. There is a lot to read there too, I've seen it.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:41 pm

for me it worked great!

But I still have one gripe; the Item leveling.. Is it possible to remove this feature entirely? Sure, it may be a bit unbalancing, but still..

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:11 am

for me it worked great!

But I still have one gripe; the Item leveling.. Is it possible to remove this feature entirely? Sure, it may be a bit unbalancing, but still..

Not really ... look on the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17621 page and you will see one called Frans OBSE Menu Plugin. Made by Strategy Master it offers these tweaks:

Spoiler

; Francesco's Mod INI for V4.5b;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------; Use this to quickly apply these settings into your game. These settings will be applyed as the defaults; at the start of a new game. You can also use the in game menu to re-load the ini if you decide to ; change them here and dont want to use the in game menu to make the changes.;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------; Fran Loot Difficulty;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------;Any setting done here will deal with any type of NPC/Chest, higher values mean lower chances ;to find good items, 0 is equal to normal loot, 50 to hardcoe loot and 75 to extra-hardcoe loot. ;You can check the loot spreadsheet to see the resulting loot table.   Set FranLoot.Type to 50	; These settings below used only if Type set to 101. Maximum values below allowed is 99   Set FranLoot.NPCBandit to 50   Set FranLoot.NPCConjurer to 50   Set FranLoot.NPCMaraud to 50   Set FranLoot.NPCNecro to 50   Set FranLoot.NPCVampire to 50   Set FranLoot.Misc to 50   Set FranLoot.Chest to 50   Set FranLoot.ChestHouse to 50; Turn on luck based loot. When enabled above settings are ignored; Recommended settings: Min:0 Max:50, Min:0 Max:99, Min:25 Max:75, Min:49 Max:99    Set FranLoot.bUseLuckLoot to 0   Set FranLoot.MinDifficulty to 25	;Loot difficulty when luck is at 100.   Set FranLoot.MaxDifficulty to 75	;Loot difficulty when luck is at 50.; Frans Misc Loot Settings;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ;Frequency of magic items. Minumum is -100 which means no magic items all the time, 100 means magic items all the time   Set FranLoot.Magic to 0	   set FranLoot.LFleeMod to 1.0	; (Default:1) Chance for npc to flee if level lower than combat targets. Rise this value for a greater chance(Min: 0, Max: 2)   set FranLoot.HFleeMod to 1.0	; (Default:1) Chance for npc to flee if low on health. Rise this value for a greator chance(Min: 0, Max: 2); Dungeon Chest Loot Settings (Only if optional plugin active);--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Set FranLoot.ChestMArms to 0	; Set to 1 for chests to have more weapons and arms (Default:0)   Set FranLoot.ChestMGems to 0 ; Set to 1 for chests to have more gems (Default:0)   Set FranLoot.ChestMGold to 0	; Set to 1 for chests to have more gold (Default:0); House Chest Loot Settings (Only if optional plugin active);--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Set FranLoot.ChestHouseMArms to 0	; Set to 1 for house chests to have more weapons and arms (Default:0)   Set FranLoot.ChestHouseMGems to 0	; Set to 1 for house chests to have more gems (Default:0)   Set FranLoot.ChestHouseMGold to 0	; Set to 1 for house chests to have more gold (Default:0); Dungeon Chest Locks Settings (Only if optional plugin active);--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Set FranLoot.RandomizeLocks to 1	; Set to 1 to make chests locks more random and lesser based on player level. Chests with harder locks will often have better loot (Default:1)   Set FranLoot.ChestTrap to 0	;Raise this modifier to increse the chance to make a chest trapped, lower it in case you want trapped chests to be rarer				;Minimum value -5 disables this feature and maximum value is 96 (Default:0)   Set FranLoot.ChestKey to 0	;Raise this modifier to increse the chance to make a chest trapped/locked and spawn a guardian holding the key to open it, lower the modifier to make the chance smaller 				;Minimum value -6 disables this feature and maximum value is 94 (Default:0);Item Addon Settings (Only modify if item addon enabled);-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Set FranLoot.AddOnItem to 1		;Set to 1 to enable the new items appearing in loot   ; Settings below control the new item ratio so for example by default every 6 boots 1 will be a boot from the new items   ; Minimum allowed value is 1 which means new items all the time and Maximum allowed value is 12   Set FranLoot.AddOnBoots to 6		;(Default:6)   Set FranLoot.AddOnCuirass to 6	;(Default:6)   Set FranLoot.AddOnGauntlets to 4	;(Default:4)   Set FranLoot.AddOnGreaves to 4	;(Default:4)   Set FranLoot.AddOnHelmet to 4	;(Default:4)   Set FranLoot.AddOnShield to 5	;(Default:5)   Set FranLoot.AddOnWeap to 5		;(Default:5)   Set FranLoot.AddOnBootsM to 4	;(Default:4)   Set FranLoot.AddOnCuirassM to 4	;(Default:4)   Set FranLoot.AddOnGauntletsM to 3	;(Default:3)   Set FranLoot.AddOnGreavesM to 3	;(Default:3)   Set FranLoot.AddOnHelmetM to 3	;(Default:3)   Set FranLoot.AddOnShieldM to 3	;(Default:3)   Set FranLoot.AddOnWeapM to 4		;(Default:4);Creature Addon Settings (Only modify if creature addon enabled);-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Set FranAddOnCrea.Flee01 to 15	;(Min 0, Max 50) % chance for creatures to flee when hit/low on health (Default:15)   Set FranAddOnCrea.Flee02 to 0	;(Min -2 disables, Max 10) When approached by other animals/creatures/NPCs an animal has a small chance to flee and avoid contact. Rise this modifier if you want the chance to be higher, lower it for a lower chance (Default:0)   Set FranAddOnCrea.Passive to 0	;(Min -3 disables, Max 25) Rise this modifier if you want animals to be passive more often. lower it if you want passive chance to be lower (Default:0)   Set FranAddOnCrea.Factions to 1.5 	;Rise this value if you want to see more factions fights, lower it if they are happening too often for your taste (Max 10.00, Min 0 which disables faction fights) (Default:1.5)   Set FranAddOnCrea.MaxScaling to 250	; Options for scale are 375 (0%), 300(5%), 250(10%), 214(15%), 187(20%), 166(25%) larger (Default:250)   Set FranAddOnCrea.MinScaling to 125	; Options for scale are 83(0%), 100(5%), 125(10%), 166(15%), 250(20%) smaller (Default:125)   Set FranAddOnCrea.RisingChance to 20	; (Min 0, Max 50) % chance for undead to rise from the dead (Default:20)   Set FranAddOnCrea.RisingTimer to 2	; This multiplied by 1.5 is the number of minutes till undead can rise (Min 1 (1.5 mins), Max 10 (15 mins)) (Default:2)   Set FranAddOnCrea.ScalingChance to 75	;Current % chance to rescale a creature (Min 0, Max 100) (Default:75)   ;Set FranAddOnCreaFindWater to 15  ;(DO NOT uncomment if creature addon is not used) (Min 0, Max 35) Chance for animals to look for water (Default:15);Misc Settings;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Set aaNoRunBackwardsStartup.bNoRunBackwards to 0	;Set to 1 to turn on the OBSE optimized no running backwards script

Other than that I know of no way to turn off leveling for Frans items.

Obviously TIE unlevels loot lists as does a plugin for http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7902.

If you ran TIE and Frans together you might get more unleveling of loot but also encounters. See http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1082453-relz-tie-frans/ for more on doing that. Actually even with that combo I'd bet that the frans loot is still leveled as per frans and then all the vanilla loot is unleveled. Arthmoor would know better than me though.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:46 pm

hmm i encountered a bug (or so I think).. I think the "specialized combat" which I enabled, ruined the marauder archer AI. All they do is stand still and watch while i hack them to death.

is this a known francesco's bug?