Any 2H swords that are long BUT not wide and bulky?

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:20 am

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/aa/Aragorn500ppx.png/180px-Aragorn500ppx.png

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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:40 pm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/aa/Aragorn500ppx.png/180px-Aragorn500ppx.png

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Thanks :celebration:

That's not a 2h sword in the sense they're represented in Skyrim. 2h swords in Skyrim are greatswords/claymores, they are big and bulky. The sword in your picture is a regular longsword/hand and a half sword. It's just a longsword capable of being used two handed for greater power.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:51 pm

That's not a 2h sword in the sense they're represented in Skyrim. 2h swords in Skyrim are greatswords/claymores, they are big and bulky. The sword in your picture is a regular longsword/hand and a half sword. It's just a longsword capable of being used two handed for greater power.

Blasphemy.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:30 pm

i miss katana. ;D
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:21 am

That's not a 2h sword in the sense they're represented in Skyrim. 2h swords in Skyrim are greatswords/claymores, they are big and bulky. The sword in your picture is a regular longsword/hand and a half sword. It's just a longsword capable of being used two handed for greater power.


W1tcher speaks the truth

here's a http://www.hollowearthswordworks.com/images/length_chart.jpg of length comparison
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:23 pm

There are some katana style 2 handers with very narrow blades.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:19 pm

There are Silver Longswords, but you have to find them, and they aren't upgradable. Look nice though.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:30 am

That's not a 2h sword in the sense they're represented in Skyrim. 2h swords in Skyrim are greatswords/claymores, they are big and bulky.


Only fantasy swords are big and bulky.

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_euroedge.html#claymore
http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_euroedge.html#twohand
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:09 am

Funnily, real bastard swords were more often used as shock weapons and considered too cumbersome to constantly wield. Sometimes they didn't even care to sharpen them. It was like a hammer, just to crush the hell out of an opponent in armor. Then they'd take out a small axe and start swinging away.

But.. I love the concept anyways. What gets me is that there aren't many unique 2h swords. Seems like mainly axes and hammers at the higher end.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:42 pm

What he says is true. Claymores don't use speed and power to cut but the sheer weight of the weapon, hence the big bulky size of it. Maybe a 2H katana?
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:28 pm

Only fantasy swords are big and bulky.

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_euroedge.html#claymore
http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_euroedge.html#twohand

Fair point, I had found this out with comparisons online after making the post; however this doesn't change the basic premise that the 2h swords in Skyrim are not representative of the longsword in the OP.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:56 am

Funnily, real bastard swords were more often used as shock weapons and considered too cumbersome to constantly wield. Sometimes they didn't even care to sharpen them. It was like a hammer, just to crush the hell out of an opponent in armor. Then they'd take out a small axe and start swinging away.

But.. I love the concept anyways. What gets me is that there aren't many unique 2h swords. Seems like mainly axes and hammers at the higher end.


Meh, I've seen too many Germans on Youtube fencing with accurate practice longswords to believe they were slow and cumbersome. Or simply for smashing someone to a pulp in armor.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:54 pm

What he says is true.


What he says is complete nonsense and an urban myth.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:09 pm

Meh, I've seen too many Germans on Youtube fencing with accurate practice longswords to believe they were slow and cumbersome. Or simply for smashing someone to a pulp in armor.

What I can find from a quick google search shows only regular longsword use with a hand and a half grip; not a single video of people fencing with greatswords - although I'm sure it's not impossible.

EDIT: It should be pointed out that a bastard sword =/= greatsword. A bastard sword is a hand and a half sword; a regular longsword with a 2h grip.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:30 am

It seems i will have to keep bludgeoning people instead of cutting them then, as it seems with the 2h swords i am using...
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:57 am

Spoiler
Ebony Blade (Mephalas quest)
is a 2h katana
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:15 pm

Meh, I've seen too many Germans on Youtube fencing with accurate practice longswords to believe they were slow and cumbersome. Or simply for smashing someone to a pulp in armor.


Yeah, there's a german (or austrian) in my avatar swinging a big one too. :D

But apparently, that's what I've gathered. The fighting style, at least for some soldiers, was to raise high above their heads, and crack down.. not unlike a powerswing in this game, and then discard. Apparently, they often left the claymores on the battlefields.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:27 pm

The standard Steel Greatsword doesn't seem that wide to me, though I'm guessing you want something thinner.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:30 pm

indeed i do, but yeah that's the closest i have used
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:54 pm

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1449

Some dude's replaced the Ebony Greatsword with an Umbra stand-in. Looks pretty sweet.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:59 pm

The standard Steel Greatsword doesn't seem that wide to me, though I'm guessing you want something thinner.


I recall there were Blades katanas in 2h form that fit the bill in Oblivion. I haven't seen anything like it in Skyrim though.

I think it's weird that Blades wouldn't have anything but 2h katanas (the only kind of katana). Dragonbane is a badass sword though, if you're sword n board.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:14 am

Funnily, real bastard swords were more often used as shock weapons and considered too cumbersome to constantly wield. Sometimes they didn't even care to sharpen them. It was like a hammer, just to crush the hell out of an opponent in armor. Then they'd take out a small axe and start swinging away.

But.. I love the concept anyways. What gets me is that there aren't many unique 2h swords. Seems like mainly axes and hammers at the higher end.


This is a widespread and demonstrably false myth.

Refer to:
http://thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsGU5KI1qJA

It's the same misunderstanding that leads people to think medieval knights needed cranes and whatnot to get on horses. (FYI, this myth was the result of a poem written long after plate armor was actually used)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm11yAXeegg

On sharpening: many longswords and zweihanders had a portion of the blade close to the hilt that was left unsharpened. However, this wasn't because the weapon was meant to be used for blunt-force trauma, it was because swordsmen would use that part as an auxiliary grip. This was a technique called half-swording, and it was developed in order to counter plate armor.

Interestingly enough, you're partially right about the fact that swords were also used as blunt weapons. However, in this case the weapon was flipped around. You have both hands on the blade (wearing gauntlets of course), and you swing at your enemy and hit them with the pommel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordhau

In any case...before I derail the thread: Oblivion was generally much better with "realistic" weapons in that the claymores were of realistic proportions. I haven't found much in the way of realistic weaponry in Skyrim, but they still look pretty cool.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:44 am

This is a widespread and demonstrably false myth.

Refer to:
http://thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsGU5KI1qJA

It's the same misunderstanding that leads people to think medieval knights needed cranes and whatnot to get on horses. (FYI, this myth was the result of a poem written long after plate armor was actually used)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm11yAXeegg

On sharpening: many longswords and zweihanders had a portion of the blade close to the hilt that was left unsharpened. However, this wasn't because the weapon was meant to be used for blunt-force trauma, it was because swordsmen would use that part as an auxiliary grip. This was a technique called half-swording, and it was developed in order to counter plate armor.

Interestingly enough, you're partially right about the fact that swords were also used as blunt weapons. However, in this case the weapon was flipped around. You have both hands on the blade (wearing gauntlets of course), and you swing at your enemy and hit them with the pommel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordhau

In any case...before I derail the thread: Oblivion was generally much better with "realistic" weapons in that the claymores were of realistic proportions. I haven't found much in the way of realistic weaponry in Skyrim, but they still look pretty cool.


The problem is that he confused a bastard sword with a greatsword. The people in the video you posted are using bastard swords, the website you posted has images of greatswords which look more like the swords in Skyrim.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:24 am

It's a nice derail..

Thanks for the links. I'll check em out.

I wouldn't say it's a widespread myth though. No one even wants to talk about swords anymore. It's always guns :\
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:35 pm

What he says is complete nonsense and an urban myth.

I was typing terribly slow and meant the second post claiming Aragorn wielded a bastard and not a true twohander.
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