Given how critical this mod is to onra's work, I agree that would make sense if Iliana is OK with it. The readme file doesn't state Iliana's wishes with respect to uploads of the mod to other sites or modifications to the mod. It doesn't preclude it, but it also doesn't explicitly authorize it either.

I sent a PM about the Dune Gate issue some time ago and I don't believe it's been read, suggesting Iliana isn't visiting the forums at this point. So if you have an alternate contact you might want to try that. Otherwise, I would think it probably comes down to making a best effort to get permission and then making a judgment about the most appropriate course of action in the absence of a response. If the mod truly is abandoned I would hope Iliana wouldn't have a problem with onra doing a bug fix release and maintaining a reliable download location.

we should not forget that there are also mods like Reapers Anequina Manor, Tales from Elsweyr, Topal Bay Walkabout, Kingdom of Rimmen plus all the music, map, loading screens, window lighting and VWD mods which all require or support Elsweyr Anequina in different ways.....

this is why I asked for a clear statement...if Iliana really has deceided to quit modding it would be the best if someone could take care of this baby (like Arthmoor did wit TIE)...I personally are willing to help with fixes or new content but would not upload it myself cause of my really bad experiences with working on mods made by other authors back at Dragon Captions....even when permission is or was given...

btw...I am planning to expand Fort Akatosh Redux and the imperial legion by adding Fort Sphinx Moth at the Elseyr Valenwood border near Dune...

cheers

I saw some posts in which it was the moderators who were flaming a user! It was inexcusable. All the user did was complain about the new layout of the site.

I know things can get pretty wild over at Nexus, but when the moderators engage in this kind of behaviour, it's rather hard to expect other users to remain civil.

To be honest, a clear statement would be very good. It has been a long time since she left and I think people are still expecting her to return. Megaupload is notorious for viruses and it would be good to move the mod to a secure site. PES, if Iliana prefers it not to be on Nexus. It just would be good to get an absolute statement from Iliana on what she wishes done with the mod, whether she is happy for it to be passed to other modders, where she wants it hosted or does she want it left as is, what she wants done about the bugs. Something to let us all know what to expect with this mod.

If the mod did not spawn a lot of mods made by other modders then I would say, just leave it. But there are a lot of people work dependant on the mod and therefore it would be good and quite justified to ask for some answers.

I can't help but wonder if the way said user was complaining had an influence. IE, did they deserve it? Not that engaging in such behavior is excuseable for a moderator.

back on topic, I think someone did try to contact Iliana about the mod being handled by someone. And if I'm not mistaken, she pretty much said anyone that was willing to take it up can. I'll try to find that to confirm it though.

http://thewormhole.nfshost.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=a822f33eaa62e8dc14497d6cc4e04b85&topic=2235.0 is the latest I could find. I'm not sure where I got that about her letting other modders have at it. Might've been someone TRYING to get a hold of her to ASK to do it. Regardless, there you go.

EDIT: Oh, I know, the post by Worm said IF she was going to let someone take over it they could use that forum page.

Not being one who hangs out at the Nexus at all (I'm a gamesas kinda guy ), I don't have an opinion, but I do have a memory that tells me that discussion on other sites' policies and such like aren't allowed and the mods make sure to enforce that rule. In the interests of keeping this thread open - I would also like to see resolution of who's developing E:DoA - we should probably stop talking about said things.

Unfortunately attempting to act on that isn't going to go very far with any of the major mod hosting sites. Since her readme does not provide for permission to continue the work, that effectively stops someone else from taking over unless she explicitly gives someone permission.

I hope that Onra gets permission for maintaining it. It's too good to go to waste. And if Iliana decides to return she could easily cooperate with Onra.

Has anyone tried contacting her at the site Leonardo2 posted above? Or is that Emma not the one that did the mod? I have also been interested in checking this out, but have been a bit confused about all the bits and pieces, so if someone like Onra could pick it up, I'd love to see it.

Edit: nevermind. It looks like I was confusing the names.

ok here are my final two cents...

I would vote for StarX to take care of Anequina ( if Iliana gives permission) as he is working on Valenwood and southern Elsweyr anyway ...I would suggest to simply upload the files on Nexus , ratings and comments disabled and link it to a support thread here on beth forums...I would futher suggest to keep the mod as it is now and only do necessary bugfixes and stuff....new stuff can be added by other mods...this would also allow Iliana to continiue her work at any time ...if she wants to...

cheers

i vote for this plan too No comments and linking to here is probably the best course of action. Having StarX taking care is a good idea to, his stuff is always amazing! Of course as long as Iliana says ok

Well, just because Illiana is from the same country as I am doesn't mean I should carry that burden!

But on a serious note: I think the most important thing is to agree upon a reliable download location, which can be either Nexus or TESA, as it's a shame for mod users to miss out on the wonderful piece of work that Anequina is.

Does anyone still have contact with Illiana?

Yeah, but that does mean you know her, right? I would just try pm'ing her on the various forums that have been linked in this thread if no one comes with more direct contact info. Another trick I've tried is to see if the same alias exists on a forum for another game...

Just a play on the joke that as soon as you say you're from someplace, someone will come up to you and say "Oh, so do you know such-and-such?"

The Elsweyr mod was magnificent, even with it being incomplete. It's a shame that the author was haggled or harassed by folks. I hope they can be men/women and apologize to the author. We are all missing out now.


I second the manor.

I'm not fond of uploading this mod on Nexus, because I've seen a lot of incidents over there for the past two years now.
Instead I suggest that Esweyr: DoA mod is hosted on both TESA and on http://lovkullen.net/Emma/index.htm, which you all by now is quite familiar with since Emma's release of http://lovkullen.net/Emma/Vilja.htm mod last year.

Besides that I no objection at all of how anyone want to proceed with Illiana's mod, but that's just my opinion.

Assuming Illiana allows it, I'd go with this. The staff at TESA (and I'd assume Emma's site as well) is amazing, and would avoid all the trolling issues. Great suggestion, leonardo2.

I won't argue with you about TESA, but I do know that http://emmates.proboards.com/ and http://lovkullen.net/Emma/index.htm are separated from each other.

In case you didn't know, but Emma's forum is now hosted on http://proboards.com/ site. :wink_smile:

Whoops. Well, I did indeed mean to say Emma's site. I think I need more sleep.

The problem with this is that not a whole lot of people know about these sites. I didn't even discover TESA until I was pointed there by someone. And I didn't know about Emma's site until just now.

Also, the moderators there are pretty quick to take care of trolls, flamers, and rule violators. Let's also leave comments like that off the topic. I don't really want to see this locked please.

What's wrong with this approach? What can the author get offended by if the ratings/comments are disabled?

PS: I love Elsweyr, it has so much personality that was missing in boring Cyrodiil!

Aren't you forgetting about the comment thread there is on Nexus?

What my point was that just not upload the mod on Nexus, because there is always a chance for anyone to post a flaming/trolling reply on Nexus.

Of course this is not my intention to offend DarkOne in any way with own personal point of view. I'm sorry if I did. :angel:

hmm, you must not have been over there for awhile. You can disable comments on any mod you upload there, so there would be no chance for flaming trolling. And see my above post about that as well.

But you can start a thread elsewhere on Nexus forum to post such *bad* replies. :meh:

So I take it you're not familiar with Emma's http://lovkullen.net/Emma/oblivionbyemma.htm (Emma's Site) or http://www.invision.tesalliance.org/forums/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=243 (TES Alliance).

Trying to upload it to Nexus without explicit permission is opening a ginormous can of worms, so it's best just not to go there. Probably best not to go there at all at any other site either.

Megaupload wasn't a problem when she uploaded the mod there, it's only been more recently that they've caved into malware distributors and started passing viruses along for the ride. I've personally complained about it and only ever gotten back the usual canned response from their mail system thanking me for contacting them blah blah blah. I suspect they just don't care.