They are just a player.addSpell line away.

Lets get this clear.

I dislike the idea of dovahkin because it makes my characters samey.

I could ignore the main quest IF i could get the same EFFECTS from dragon shouts but in another form or move like spells.

So for example, instead of having to breath fire like a dragon due to a dragon shout i could get the same effect from a spell and use my hands to deliver the flame.

It has nothing to do with being weak willed, it's about not wanting to be shoe-horned into a type of character just so that i can get access to the EFFECTS of dragon shouts.

Now there is one thing you said earlier that made sense, that it was greedy of me to want this, and yes there i do agree with you, if the majority of people like this feature then who am i to want it changed, that i agree.

But here is another thing i would also like to make crystal clear, this is a personal opinion, it means that as long as i do not insult anyone and put forward my point of view straightforwardly it is just that, an opinon about a game, it doesn't mean that the opinion is the universal truth, it does not mean it cannot be challenged or questioned, but it should mean that i do not have to put up with personal attacks.

That you do not like it should not make you start making assumptions about me personally, about whether i am weak willed or easily influenced, about whether i would kill myself if asked to or whether i can be convinced i am an idiot if told i am, there is a big difference between a personal opinion on a computer game and a personal attack on the individual that holds that opinion.

As for leaving, i am leaving this thread but certainly not these forums,

Good day to you as well.

They wouldn't have told us if they hadn't thought about this point properly. The ingame experience will most likely be fine and not spoiled or anything like that.

Dovahkiin means Dragonborn. It's not an actual first name.

Actually... If the game is set so the PC is Dragonborn, then they are whether or not they like it or believe it. :shrug:

I'll have a pkaythrough where i'll RP i'm not a Dragonborn either way.

Rant rant rant?

You don't get to choose to be Dovakhiin for the same reason that, in the time of inherited royalty, you did not get to choose whether or not to be royalty.

You can always be a dragonborn who doesn't want to save the world, just relaxing and collecting shouts...

There'll be a mod for that.

This is great




This actually made me laugh, you speak very high and mighty of yourself.

Also it seems as if youd prefer that they show a clip of the new call of duty game and then say "This is a game coming out this year, we will also be releasing one."
Or maybe just have a picture of a tree standing there for 3 minutes so it doesnt give away plot details or spoil some of the animals or types of grass in the game.

You seem to dislike everything about the game youve said before that animals in the wild that attack you annoy you while trying to view the landscape so you just stay invisible. i dont understand how you enjoyed the past ones. if you want a game without risks, without story, without a theme. Just dont watch the trailer and follow the info or maybe write a book.

You dont have to be the dragonborn you can do whatever you want, the freedom is there, its like nobody has ever asked you guys to do something.

Depends. If that ends up being the "big twist" then yeah. I'm not certain that being dragonborn is going to be as big a deal as it seems at the moment though. Hopefully there are a lot more/bigger surprises than that along the way.

I'm the Dovakhiin? GEEZ! Next time don't put spoilers in the title!

I see a post stepping on a guy because he doesn't want to be titles but wants the advantage of dragon shouts, your don't do shouts just because your Dovakiin, it just Nara them easier, it in lore apparently as people ate calling shouts thum... So he's not being irrational

I seriously don't get people's concern with being a Dragonborn. It is neither a class nor a destiny (theoretically as all TES protagonists are destined to do whatever you do) but rather an inheritance.
And Dovakhiin's are the best weapon against Dragons and you just happened to be one thus certain factions wanting to pull you into this conflict.

If you want so, you can do whatever you did before you became a Dovakhiin: just ignore that BS and live your own life like you did up till now and like your ancestors did (as Dragon Blood seems to be inheritable and most people don't know about it... hell, I remember reading somewhere that your TES3 character is also a Dovakhiin, just never got into a situation of making use of that trait).

Scar is awesome.

Greybeards = Rafiki. Wise old man living secluded who will teach you of your true path.

Also in Morrwwind, I thought there was a chance that you didn't become the Nerevarine. At least there were some play throughs where my character wasn't able to wear/ get the Moon and Star. And I would prefer if it was that way in Skyrim as well. That you have to meet certain main quest accomplishments in order to access that branch of the story line.

I'm not surprised if Bethesda goes the way of that every main character is the Dovahkiin, though. Since a lot of people complained that Martin got all the credit for saving Tamriel during the Oblivion crisis.

Both of these guys are basically saying that they have a strong dislike or hatred for many of the features in the most current TES games, yet they're still playing Oblivion and will still buy Skyrim when it's released. That's almost like someone complaining about being overweight, but continues to do no exercising and continues to eat at McDonalds.

(Most likely) True; but why!?

now that you mention it kindof

I think we would have found out 30 minutes into the game... so no, not really. Its not like those movie trailers that you see that LITERALLY show someone dying half way through the movie that was a key figure for the first half. Seriously, I've seen trailers that gave away more information that Bethesda has told in the dozens of interviews they've had

It's called a fire spell.


Because there are some people out there who don't want all this silly main quest business getting in the way of positioning their characters in a tavern so they can take a picture and post it on Planet Elder Scrolls with a story about how their unique snowflake character of a race that nobody in the game world acknowledges is a social butterfly.

Why not?

Because the story is centered around that known constant.

I indeed loved how in Morrowind things unveiled to you as you played. In oblivion I tended to avoid the main quest too since I felt like it defined my character too much. In morrowind the whole quest line was implemented a lot better. I wish they would've done the same for Skyrim but I'm very doubtful.